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To think babies shouldn’t ruin relationships

674 replies

lighttheresomewhere · 05/05/2024 22:27

It’s so interesting and genuinely so heartwrenching to see the amount of posts on here (and hear it in real life too) about the amount of relationships that drastically change for the worst and even break after having a baby/babies.

we have a 11 month old and I feel like it’s brought us even closer. My husband is a fantastic dad and husband and last night I got all dressed up for him coming to bed and when we were going to sleep he said thank you for making sure we didn’t lose us. I said what do you mean? He said ‘we haven’t lost us’. He started saying about the roommate phase and how we never went through that etc. I said it wasn’t a conscious decision it was just natural that I wanted to have sex pretty early on again, I wanted us to still have date nights and be us but it subconscious. I told him I fell in love with him all over again in a whole new way seeing him bond with the baby.

im not trying to be antagonistic or anything I just genuinely don’t understand how relationships go to shit so much after babies.

OP posts:
AnImaginaryCat · 06/05/2024 10:46

I think lines like "thank you for not losing us" between a couple only becomes 🤮 when it gets shared outside of the relationship.

The OP evidently has significant mental health illnesses. I'd say she's significant concerns about her body and her relationship, which she feels in extreme.

So a few days ago the OP dressed herself up to make herself feel attractive, had then sex (confirmation she's attractive!!) and then he's said the above to her afterwards. So much posiitve confirmation in one go creates an extreme high where she fully believe she's in the best relationship ever. Then with a need to get lots more confirmation of this feeling she posts about it on MN. (Not so successful.)

BIossomtoes · 06/05/2024 10:47

Locallady2 · 06/05/2024 10:40

I think if op had said

'Me and my husband are more in love than ever and our relationship feels stronger because we've bonded through having a baby' that would have been better. Still a bit of a boast but otherwise a nice story and how things should ideally be when two people have a child together.

However she actually said that she put on sexy underwear and her husband thanked her for 'not losing us' which I don't personally think is very romantic at all. It's not the brag op thinks it is.

This. And it smacks of out doing her bloke’s ex.

M00nknightsSister · 06/05/2024 10:47

I haven’t read the full thread yet just the opening post, but I was immediately reminded of the thread from a few months ago. That OP missed the nostalgia of the early covid era and gets a warm feeling when she fondly remembers that time. She had such an amazing and blissful experience.

oObyeOo · 06/05/2024 10:47

HighlandSpring85 · 05/05/2024 22:38

You got all dressed up for him coming to bed? .... vom.

This was my 1st thought. She’s birthed his child but she’s still only there to visually please him. I wonder if he dresses up for her?!

Wemetatascoutcamp · 06/05/2024 10:48

HungryandIknowit · 05/05/2024 22:40

Try having another one 😂

This!!!

ChicViper · 06/05/2024 10:49

Abuse often begins or escalates after a baby is born so many people are unaware of how dark things are about to become until that happens. Plenty of research to back that up if you feel like delving more into this aspect of children and relationships further.

Also a myriad of other issues from birth injuries to financial hardship and lack of support can all have a negative effect. I do think its lovely that you're relationship has thrived because its nice to have that hope that these perfect relationships do exist! but when they don't it really isn't always the case that a couple just weren't trying hard enough or didn't put effort into keeping their relationship. It's not the baby perse but the accumulative pressures that can unexpectedly appear when a baby arrives. I know it's splitting hairs to describe it that way I just don't think it's the baby's actual fault just the alignment of everything else once they're here.

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 06/05/2024 10:52

I don’t have DC but the people who did want to have them with me. One would’ve been a complete disaster and I’d have hated being a single mum and needing support from him in both ways. Other two men, though it could’ve worked.

Either way I’d seen my mum struggle as a single parent so was sure I didn’t want the same.

The amount of times I was told by some friends “just have a baby” with some random guy I was seeing, like it’d all make it right in the end…

I’ve seen babies ruin and make relationships.

Beefcurtains79 · 06/05/2024 10:52

berksandbeyond · 06/05/2024 09:13

Maybe a lesson learned about not being so goady OP?

Exactly.

Starlightstargazer · 06/05/2024 10:54

lighttheresomewhere · 06/05/2024 09:11

You know what. Fuck this. This site has gone to the dogs. I had someone telling me to kill myself on it a few weeks ago and told myself I wouldn’t log on again. Sticking to my guns this time because people are just fucking horrible.

Hi OP, really good to hear you have a good relationship.
Can you tell us if you had any of the difficult events people have described?
Difficult pregnancy, difficult birth, birth injuries, PND, poorly baby, difficult sleeping, financial worries, lack of outside support?

TwattyMcFuckFace · 06/05/2024 10:54

In fact, it makes me thankful than hubby and I have such a good relationship because other things haven’t been as easy.

As long as he doesn't ask his own kids how their family is?

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 06/05/2024 10:55

ChicViper · 06/05/2024 10:49

Abuse often begins or escalates after a baby is born so many people are unaware of how dark things are about to become until that happens. Plenty of research to back that up if you feel like delving more into this aspect of children and relationships further.

Also a myriad of other issues from birth injuries to financial hardship and lack of support can all have a negative effect. I do think its lovely that you're relationship has thrived because its nice to have that hope that these perfect relationships do exist! but when they don't it really isn't always the case that a couple just weren't trying hard enough or didn't put effort into keeping their relationship. It's not the baby perse but the accumulative pressures that can unexpectedly appear when a baby arrives. I know it's splitting hairs to describe it that way I just don't think it's the baby's actual fault just the alignment of everything else once they're here.

A close relative of mine soon after giving birth said her relationship was almost on the rocks. They were married but the baby was soon after getting married and was a surprise.

She told me she found it very hard to suddenly ensure her spare money went on nappies and wet wipes for the baby and nothing for her and her DH just used to go to the pub when things got tough. They turned it round but it was tough.

Similar story to with another best friend, they did split up for a few years before reuniting.

Nanny0gg · 06/05/2024 10:57

MsLuxLisbon · 05/05/2024 22:38

I've noticed that there are a lot of people on here who resent others' good fortune, so you're right that OP will get a hard time. However, that says more about the people giving her a hard time than about her, IMO.

No. It's the lack of thought that not EVERY woman is keen on sex after what she might have been through (I couldn't go anywhere without a cushion for a month)
Not EVERY baby is calm and contented and sleeps well so if you're up half the night you're going to feel a little stressed
Not EVERY husband is hands-on and helpful, sadly. If you take the numbers on MN, most are not
Not EVERY couple finds it as easy as they thought to take the financial hit

It's the lack of awareness that the OP is in a very lucky position. She shouldn't be; it should be the norm. But I doubt it ever will be, So sadly it comes over as smug

LaMarschallin · 06/05/2024 10:58

AnImaginaryCat

I think lines like "thank you for not losing us" between a couple only becomes 🤮 when it gets shared outside of the relationship.

I think that's very true. I'd absolutely cringe if some pillow talk, behaviour, pet names etc that I'd engaged in/used privately were put on a forum for anyone to read.
Which is why I wouldn't do it but you may be right about why the OP did.

Maybe also because, if she's quite young, she's grown up with it being the norm for some people to live their life publicly on the internet?
Perhaps she thought everyone would think "What a lovely story"...

theilltemperedclavecinist · 06/05/2024 10:58

im not trying to be antagonistic or anything I just genuinely don’t understand how relationships go to shit so much after babies and why you are all such losers unlike me.

What. Was. The. Point. Of. That?

Josette77 · 06/05/2024 10:58

Calamitycassie · 06/05/2024 09:59

Thank you. This is exactly it. Generations of DV, toxic dynamics and being skint.

I don’t have a big inspirational success story. I had an amazing dad who I looked up to and who always told me I could be who I wanted to be. So I did exactly that. and genuinely found it quite easy once I decided that was to be that.

See, I had one dad who died of a drug overdose and an adopted Dad who abused me in heinous ways I never discuss.

I'm not living in poverty. I live a good life but it was far from easy. I got lucky in many ways. I was naturally bright and talented and attractive so in some ways life was very kind. Some doors opened up quite easily for me.

I have no struggle to see why many others did not get so lucky though. Some far brighter, more talented and more attractive but I was able to meet the right people at the right time.

I can recognize my privilege. I think those who don't understand others struggles are unable to see their own privilege and make the grave mistake of thinking they've done it all on their own.

bloodyplumbing · 06/05/2024 11:00

Calamitycassie · 06/05/2024 09:19

Why is everyone saying “total lack of awareness?” Yes that’s why she’s asking the pissing question!!

and it’s a problem she dresses nice for her husband? Give the fuck over. Some people seem so far removed from doing anything remotely flirtatious, nice, or romantic for their partner it’s no wonder there’s so many posts of affairs divorce and breakups on here.

she wasn’t being goady at all. But if she was you have all well and truly taken the bait.

Not being goady?

Are you reading the same thread?

Nanny0gg · 06/05/2024 11:00

lighttheresomewhere · 06/05/2024 09:09

I’m currently waiting on a diagnosis of BPD so it’s far from cushy but the baby has helped our relationship get stronger

But do you see how it comes over to those (many) who struggle?
It was the lack of acknowledgement of them combined with a touch of 'this is how you should be doing it' smugness.

I am pleased for you that it's going well.

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 06/05/2024 11:02

WTF have I just read.

last night I got all dressed up for him coming to bed

what does this mean?? Thank fuck I don’t have to do that….

and when we were going to sleep he said thank you for making sure we didn’t lose us. I said what do you mean? He said ‘we haven’t lost us’. He started saying about the roommate phase

so it’s all about sex then

it was just natural that I wanted to have sex pretty early on again

well great for you but what if you went through a traumatic labour and weren’t up for sex again? It took me 8 months. Should I have felt guilty or what? Luckily my partner was super supportive but you hear about men pressuring their partners or worse, looking elsewhere.

Grim

PorpoiseWithPurpose · 06/05/2024 11:02

I just read your other thread and saw you’re waiting on a BPD diagnosis. It sounds like there are some mental health issues at play here. I hope you get help soon.

Sapphire387 · 06/05/2024 11:03

You have one baby, and it sounds like you've been fortunate to have a decent sleeper.

Absolutely howling at you coming on here preaching to everyone.

Love, you're only just at the beginning.

Catsmere · 06/05/2024 11:10

CarnDûm · 06/05/2024 08:24

Is this what you had in mind? Grin
(If pic attaches)

Perfect example! 🤮

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 06/05/2024 11:11

bloodyplumbing · 06/05/2024 11:00

Not being goady?

Are you reading the same thread?

Oh come on. It's not the OP's fault if she posts a self-aggrandising, boasty thread and posters are too stupid to leave it alone and not give a response. That's on the frothers. There are boasting posts everywhere on this thread, not nearly as many as the 'kick a woman whenever you can' posters though.

I open threads all the time that make me click straight back out. Not difficult to not be made to feel like crap if you don't engage with it.

Prodding the OP about BPD though isn't cool, it's pathetic and, if the OP has any wit left she'll ask for the thread to be deleted before she leaves.

Longma · 06/05/2024 11:12

I just genuinely don’t understand how relationships go to shit so much after babies.

Not all partners pull their weight and have a near 50/50 share.
Birth injuries - for mother and/or for child
Health concerns for any of the parties
Disabilities
Sleep deprivation - not all babies sleep through straight away
Juggling more than one child
Juggling work commitments with babies and children
Juggling household am]min and chores, work, other children, other family commitments, etc.
Finances may be more restrained leading to increased stress
Realities v expectations are wildly different sometimes
Some children/babies are 'easier' than others at different stages
Some families find the baby years easy but then struggle when they have toddlers, children or teens

There are many reasons why having a baby may affect a relationship.
I am you are capable of understanding that not all babies and set ups are alike, and obviously some pregnancies, births and babies - as well as some relationships and home lives - can make things trickier.

Catsmere · 06/05/2024 11:13

Abeona · 06/05/2024 08:18

I think I can say with certainty that the OP's a man.

Certainly reads like it.

CameltoeParkerBowles · 06/05/2024 11:14

WillJeSuis · 05/05/2024 22:41

What the fuck even is this post?

A big old bragfest ...