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Who should pay for these tickets?

189 replies

Ppejfhfhrhhfhf · 05/05/2024 14:53

I was going to an event with Sarah and Philippa. I bought the tickets and they were meant to transfer the money.

Sarah then said her DH had arranged to see friends and so she could no longer come. Annoying, but okay. I asked Philippa if it would be okay if we offered the ticket to another mutual friend, Cheryl. Philippa said yes, but that she had seriously overspent so could no longer afford to come and so did I want to find someone else take her ticket too.

I was annoyed, and said I couldn’t think of anyone to take it but if she didn’t want to come just send the money and don’t come. She said she’d send it when she was paid. Meanwhile, Cheryl and I went for drinks with Jessica, mentioned there was a spare ticket, and Jessica said she’d like to come.

So Cheryl, Jessica and I went to the event. I have been paid for the tickets by no one.

Who should pay?

YABU - Cheryl and Jessica
YANBU - Sarah and Philippa

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YoureStuckOnMeLikeATattoohoohoo · 05/05/2024 15:06

Sarah and Phillipa should have paid initially, then got the money from Cheryl and Jessica.

As it stands its Cheryl and Jessica that should pay.

Sarah and Phillipa aren't very good friends to decide that they wouldn't pay, knowing you had already paid for the tickets though.

Ppejfhfhrhhfhf · 05/05/2024 15:06

EmilyTjP · 05/05/2024 15:03

Why are you asking us who should pay if you’ve already decided? 😂

To see if I am being unreasonable, and also I’m hungover and bored.

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SamphiretheTervosaurReturneth · 05/05/2024 15:07

Group chat with all of them. Tell them all you don't care how they sort it out between them but you've had enough you want to be paid.

See who says what...

Trickabrick · 05/05/2024 15:07

Ppejfhfhrhhfhf · 05/05/2024 15:05

Then Sarah and Philippa can take it up with Cheryl and Jessica. They should’ve paid well before they dropped out.

Why did you bother posting this if you’re only interested in receiving confirmation that your (originally unclear) viewpoint is right? 😂

Ppejfhfhrhhfhf · 05/05/2024 15:08

CorvusPurpureus · 05/05/2024 15:04

Anyone but you!

Sarah & Cheryl should really come to an agreement as Cheryl took Sarah's ticket, & Philippa & Jessica likewise.

But in the first instance Sarah & Philippa are liable to pay you, as they initially committed to go/agreed that you would book on the understanding that they would pay.

If I were Sarah or Philippa, I would have said upfront 'of course Cheryl/Jessica can BUY my ticket' & checked that Cheryl/Jessica knew they were buying it, not getting a freebie.

Or I'd just have written it off as 'meh at least it's not being wasted...she can have it.'

But either way, they made the original arrangement & agreed to pay.

The written it off is always the attitude I’d take, but obviously lots of people interpret it as them getting off the hook for paying.

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welshycake · 05/05/2024 15:11

Ppejfhfhrhhfhf · 05/05/2024 15:05

Then Sarah and Philippa can take it up with Cheryl and Jessica. They should’ve paid well before they dropped out.

Exactly put them in a chat and let them decide what's fair

PenguinLord · 05/05/2024 15:11

Ppejfhfhrhhfhf · 05/05/2024 15:02

And if they’d said ‘no, I don’t mind coming but don’t want to pay that’ then all three tickets would’ve been unused and Sarah and Philippa would’ve had to pay.

Then if have go on my own and at least I'd not be upset with anyone who cane and didn't pay. I would never have gone to an event abd expect a freebie, but all your friends ate freeloaders, so....I imagine if I had to drop out urgently before paying and the person who paid found someone in my place I'd not expect to have to pay.

welshycake · 05/05/2024 15:12

SamphiretheTervosaurReturneth · 05/05/2024 15:07

Group chat with all of them. Tell them all you don't care how they sort it out between them but you've had enough you want to be paid.

See who says what...

Glad I'm not alone on this. I think it's the best way to do it.

Hi guys, slightly awkward but no one has paid me back for the tickets I bought for xyz. Here's my bank details you work out who is paying what.

Testina · 05/05/2024 15:13

It really depends exactly how you worded it to everyone.
If you made it sound like you had another taker for the ticket (both times) and it was your poor communication that made the S&P think C&J were now paying for them, but made C&J think they were free spares - then that’s on you.
If you made S&P feel they were off the hook, they didn’t have the chance to say, “wait up - if C/J don’t want to pay towards them, I’ll ask around for someone who will.”

C&J might think you were already paid for them so their free ticket wasn’t costing you. If they know you’re out of pocket, and aren’t giving a contribution that’s poor behaviour. But then if you didn’t make that clear and they genuinely don’t have the budget and wouldn’t have gone if they’d known, it’s unfair to expect it now.

So it all depends exactly what you said to everyone!

Ppejfhfhrhhfhf · 05/05/2024 15:14

PenguinLord · 05/05/2024 15:11

Then if have go on my own and at least I'd not be upset with anyone who cane and didn't pay. I would never have gone to an event abd expect a freebie, but all your friends ate freeloaders, so....I imagine if I had to drop out urgently before paying and the person who paid found someone in my place I'd not expect to have to pay.

It isn’t an event you’d go to on your own.

They didn’t have to drop out urgently.

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BobbyBiscuits · 05/05/2024 15:16

Did Cheryl and Jessica agree to buy the tickets, or did they think they were doing you a favour and they were going spare for free?
I'd say logically the people who attended should pay. If you couldn't re allocate them then the person who dropped out should.
Just ask the ones who came politely when they are going to pay and send bank details.

MintCrumble · 05/05/2024 15:16

Generally in my friends and family whoever attends pays and usually people pay within a couple of days.

StormingNorman · 05/05/2024 15:16

What did you say to Cheryl and Jessica when you offered them the tickets? Did you let them know they’d be expected to pay?

MasterBeth · 05/05/2024 15:18

Well, both outcomes are reasonable, so you should have been clear with everyone.

Ppejfhfhrhhfhf · 05/05/2024 15:18

Testina · 05/05/2024 15:13

It really depends exactly how you worded it to everyone.
If you made it sound like you had another taker for the ticket (both times) and it was your poor communication that made the S&P think C&J were now paying for them, but made C&J think they were free spares - then that’s on you.
If you made S&P feel they were off the hook, they didn’t have the chance to say, “wait up - if C/J don’t want to pay towards them, I’ll ask around for someone who will.”

C&J might think you were already paid for them so their free ticket wasn’t costing you. If they know you’re out of pocket, and aren’t giving a contribution that’s poor behaviour. But then if you didn’t make that clear and they genuinely don’t have the budget and wouldn’t have gone if they’d known, it’s unfair to expect it now.

So it all depends exactly what you said to everyone!

Just checked the wording.

I said in a group chat ‘is it okay if Cheryl has the spare ticket to the event’.

Then Philippa asked if anyone wanted hers, then I said I couldn’t think of anyone. Then when Jessica said she’d come I sent the same message.

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Ppejfhfhrhhfhf · 05/05/2024 15:20

StormingNorman · 05/05/2024 15:16

What did you say to Cheryl and Jessica when you offered them the tickets? Did you let them know they’d be expected to pay?

I said there was a spare ticket if they wanted to come.

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TheIceQween · 05/05/2024 15:20

S&P to pay you, C&J to pay S&P - Long ass winded way round of doing it? But it’s logically how it should look

DelphiniumBlue · 05/05/2024 15:20

It depends if Cheryl & Jessica thought they were being offered free tickets or not.
There's a lot of things I'd go and see if I was being offered a free ticket, but that I wouldn't want to pay for...
It also depends how much the tickets were - £20 is different to £80, which what some bands seem to be charging at the moment, and if that was spelt out to C & J.

Floralnomad · 05/05/2024 15:20

You should have checked that the second pair knew they were having to pay , you cannot at this stage expect the first pair to pay for the other 2 to have a freebie .

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 05/05/2024 15:22

Trickabrick · 05/05/2024 15:02

I find your logic odd - you managed to find two others to go along to the event so all the “ifs” are irrelevant. It isn’t your place decide that Cheryl and Jessica get their tickets for free while Sarah and Phillipa pay for an event they didn’t attend.

Yup🙂

PoppingTomorrow · 05/05/2024 15:24

Ppejfhfhrhhfhf · 05/05/2024 15:00

Because I don’t think they should have to. Sarah and Philippa agreed to pay for the tickets and didn’t. Once they dropped out the tickets were spare, not on re-sale. If I had to drop out I’d still pay for my ticket but be happy for someone else to use it for free rather than lying unused.

Well they were spare and still belonged to you if noone else had bought them from you?

Once Sarah and Philippa weren't going they were unlikely to pay you if they hadn't already. They're certainly not going to pay you knowing that 2 other people have had use of the tickets!

Ppejfhfhrhhfhf · 05/05/2024 15:24

DelphiniumBlue · 05/05/2024 15:20

It depends if Cheryl & Jessica thought they were being offered free tickets or not.
There's a lot of things I'd go and see if I was being offered a free ticket, but that I wouldn't want to pay for...
It also depends how much the tickets were - £20 is different to £80, which what some bands seem to be charging at the moment, and if that was spelt out to C & J.

It was not a lot of money and it’s easily written off. It just annoys me that Sarah and Philippa said they’d pay, didn’t, then dropped out for spurious reasons.

I’m also clouded in my view because they’re both tight and would’ve hassled me for repayment the second they’d paid.

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DelphiniumBlue · 05/05/2024 15:26

But did C & J think they were getting free tickets? Because if they did, it's not fair to ask them after the event if it wasn't mentioned before.

Ppejfhfhrhhfhf · 05/05/2024 15:26

PoppingTomorrow · 05/05/2024 15:24

Well they were spare and still belonged to you if noone else had bought them from you?

Once Sarah and Philippa weren't going they were unlikely to pay you if they hadn't already. They're certainly not going to pay you knowing that 2 other people have had use of the tickets!

They were ‘bought’ on behalf of Sarah and Philippa. I’m not a ticket resale service.

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Ppejfhfhrhhfhf · 05/05/2024 15:27

DelphiniumBlue · 05/05/2024 15:26

But did C & J think they were getting free tickets? Because if they did, it's not fair to ask them after the event if it wasn't mentioned before.

I wouldn’t ask them, I’d be mortified.

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