To finally be looking forward to a GE?

[Cadela]

The past election/PM changes have been horrendous. The visceral disappointment was awful each time.

I can’t wait to actually celebrate this year. I know, I know, Labour are going to set fire to the economy and tax everyone £3mil each and it’ll cost you 4 trillion a month to send you kid to private school, and all women will perish immediately because only Tories know what a woman is

But finally! It’s been a long fucking time coming.

It is such a lazy argument. I’ve never voted Tory. Used to be a fully paid up member of the Labour Party. What I want to know is WHO is going to sort the huge deficit we have. The borrowing we have to already undertake - to pay for a state already run into the ground. We don’t meet our outgoings as is. WHO is going to fix the fact our net contributors our decreasing and our net beneficiaries are rising and now the majority. HOW is it going to be fixed?

It is such simple thinking from our electorate which causes these issues. Tawwwwies bad. No - the IMF has said we are well and truly fucked if we don’t sort this. It doesn’t take a genius in statistics or maths to see why.

The school fees issue is playing to the simple politics of the electorate and dumbing down the issue. Look over here we are going to suck it to those nasty Tawwwwies. We haven’t costed it and really figured out how much it will cost but evil Tawwwwies - fuck the rich.

The British public are in the corner clapping like seals. Meanwhile, the IMF a raising huge alarm bells over our welfare bill and productivity issue. Labour have gone very quiet about how they will protect benefits and state spending. They have gone even quieter on lowering the highest rate tax threshold to 85k and they know we can’t afford to lose more higher rate tax payers from the workforce. But…but… private schools.

It’s all ok though. I’m sure Labour can grow money on trees.

I'm not going to read that kind of left wing puff piece thanks.

It’s all ok though. I’m sure Labour can grow money on trees

Well the "Tawwwwies" 🙄 have managed to find the magic money tree when it has suited them.

Yes and look how fucked we are. The IMF stating the obvious. A high tax, low productivity, high dependency state is on track for financial ruin.

I’d like a party, any party to tell us how they will fix that. Labour can’t. Hence why they have backtracked on the tax threshold and they are being VERY quiet about how they will continue with the state dependency and funding.

The writing is on the wall. It needs a party, any party will do to say HOW this will be sorted and be honest with the electorate. The school fees debate is trivial and playing to a dumbed down nation.

I don’t think this will be answered, even by Labour

I get what you mean about the VAT policy

They don’t know how to answer it without worrying the majority. That is because we have a majority of state dependents. Whoever gets in needs to take heed of the IMF report and they know it. The school fees is bread and circuses.

What is this IMF report you keep mentioning?

We don’t meet our outgoings as is. WHO is going to fix the fact our net contributors our decreasing and our net beneficiaries are rising and now the majority. HOW is it going to be fixed?

Hmmm, if only there were people out there in the world of working age who were keen to come here and work and contribute. But since there are not the only solution must be to punish those 'beneficiaries' who are already here, you're quite right.

The IMF is a foreign fund so there is no reason to pay any attention to it.

The writing is on the wall. It needs a party, any party will do to say HOW this will be sorted and be honest with the electorate

Hopefully there will be details in the manifesto.

May the UK could withdraw from the IMF and the ECHR?

People get the country it deserves. 🦭🦭🦭

I understand your frustration at this. I guess we’ll see how it pans out, questions on funding are good but if unanswered them it’s a bit hard

I don’t pay fees either so I’m not frustrated about that. I am frustrated at the dumbing down of the real issue with a distraction. It works for those who aren’t able to see the bigger picture - which is most of the UK judging by the posters on this thread.

So what is the real issue, the bigger picture?

Knowing what a woman is, obvs.

Is that in the IMF report?

Yes, a link would be good because when I had a quick Google all I found on the IMF page was some left-wing bullshit about mental health reforms, flexible working and training, all to improve productivity, so I must be looking in the wrong place.

I’d only celebrate if genuine improvements actually materialised.

A change of personnel isn’t anything to celebrate.

And taxing private schools isn’t anything to celebrate unless you personally genuinely see a resultant improvement in your child’s school as a result.

There would be less dependence on the state if more people were paid a proper living wage, instead of having to get top ups because they can't afford to live despite working full time.

More people having a little disposable income to spend benefits everyone; if someone who couldn't before can now afford to take the kids swimming or to the cinema, go to a hairdresser or buy the odd takeaway coffee or lunch, this keeps people in work and businesses running, and then those staffing them have a little more disposable income, and so it goes on.

That's not including the positive effect on mental heath and the feeling of being able to participate in society, which surely improves general health, productivity and pretty much everything else.

I am also frustrated at the dumbing down of the real issues with distractions. Rwanda. The war on disabled people. The culture wars.

A bit of jiggery pokery around VAT on school fees is nothing in comparison to the hate filled distractions the Tories have deployed.

I know it’s not about fees don’t worry.

Absolutely. But income top ups are not a new thing and sadly will probably always be needed.

Hahah…yes, I can’t wait.

I can’t wait for a government run by people who hate my history, my heritage and my identity and will do all they can to destroy it (or what’s left of it).

I can’t wait for a government that is going to increase tax, borrow too much, blow public money on ‘diversity and inclusion managers’, and drive out the businesses on which our economy depends.

I can’t wait for a government who thinks the boatloads of undocumented young men landing on our shores are all genuine refugees fleeing “war and persecution.”

I can’t wait to see the population increase and the countryside disappear under a sea of housing estates. Who wants trees and fields and flowers when you can have rows and rows of disgusting rabbit hutch houses jammed on top of one another? In 2022, net immigration was 700,000. To house those people, we need two new Manchesters. God knows what will happen under a centre left government. Maybe they could reach a million extra people a year. Africa’s birth rate is so high the African population is going to double, so it’s certainly do-able. No wonder Starmer calls himself a YIMBY.

I can’t wait to continue working in a job I hate to pay the generous welfare payments Labour will introduce. I know so many people who cheat and exploit the benefit system that I hardly know where to start. People like my vain, arrogant cousin, who has never done a days work in his life, yet still manages to go on fishing trips to France and take photos of himself (and his fake tan) in the local gym. Clearly his bad back and depression aren’t that bad. I’m sure he’s looking forward to the GE as well.

Oooo…I’m rubbing my hands together in excitement.

Oh, I know. But if fewer people needed them just for basic necessities, more resources could be concentrated towards the truly vulnerable who are always going to need support.

Why do you think that some businesses providing a luxury service to a tiny percentage of the population who can afford it should be taxed and others shouldn't, @Efh ?