To ask what you expect from Labour when/if they win the election?

[Welovecrumpets]

Just curious. I’ll be voting for them reluctantly but I’m not really sure what can or will be done about the state of the country. It seems we’re skint so they’ll just have to tinker around the edges.

Agree - where are his policies?

What a lot of tosh. A basic understanding industrial relations work would help you with your fourth point, for instance. There have been so many strikes because the government have not been negotiating. Labour are not going to be able to give everyone everything they want, but they aren't going to allow strikes to happen to exploit the resultant divisions. No one wants strikes, least of all the workers who don't get paid when on strike. We've had more strikes under the Tories than under Labour.

Really? You think 1997 - 2010 were as bad as under the Tories since?

You don't know thst education and the NHS were massively better funded, for example?

Tell me you haven't got children in state schools without telling me you haven't got children in state schools. "Cesspits" 🙄😂 Many are far from cesspits- my children are doing very well in state school education, thanks.

I think it says a lot that at a time when public opinion of the tories is so low, Labour still look totally inept. I suspect yesterday was mostly a protest vote against the current government than actual support for other parties.

I have low hopes of whoever gets in next time. The coffers are empty and the global COL crisis and wars will continue to impact this- therefore whoever gets in will be somewhat limited in what they can achieve. I'm not citing this as an excuse. I'm just being pragmatic- I think it's more realistic to look at what can be done to relieve the burden a bit.

Ok sounds relevant 🤔

What will Labour actually do?

There has been a lot of house building, but it will never be enough to cope with this level of immigration.

Same

What is it about private students that makes them unable to cope in state schools?

You are confusing us with liberals and Blairites perhaps? Those pleasant sellouts who keep the door open for the City spivs.

IF they win then I hope they might backtrack on some UC policies for example the 30 hour requirements or the two child cap.

You don’t need to know. The clever man from Doughty Street is going to give you what he thinks is best.
except he doesn’t have a clue himself sadly. Oh wait - private schools very very bad. Yes, there’s a sound platform for government!

I expect to be represented on the world stage by leaders who don't bring shame to the country. I expect the news not to be dominated with scandal after scandal and a government that obeys their own laws, for instance. No more talk about leaving the ECHR and slowly but surely rebuilding our relationship with Europe. I expect the driving force behind all decisions made to be what will be best for the country, not how can Tories and their mates make some money.

It will be a long slow road to recovery after the chaos the Tories have unleashed, and there will be decisions I don't agree with made along the way, as well as some mistakes. But we will be governed by sensible, able, mainly decent human beings who will be doing their best for the country they lead.

Most people seem so intent on getting the tories out they haven’t even looked at what proposals Labour have made.

I don’t have any high expectations of them. I can’t see things improving for many to be fair. There’s just not enough money and too many people.

Yes, I know, I know. I was jesting - Socialists are really just angry, bitter and shouty.

Reeves has already said that Labour won't change the two child policy.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jul/16/labour-keep-two-child-benefit-cap-says-keir-starmer

so I was told, by a representative of our local authority, when I suggested I might move my son with ASD into the state sector, that unless I couldn’t afford private anymore shouldn’t even contemplate as, and I quote , « he won’t last two minutes in any of our schools ».
so that’s one reason, I suppose

😂😂😂😂

But it's capitalists who ' always run out if other people's money'. Public finances are always wrecked at the end of a Tory government. The utter decrepitude of London in the early 90s was off the scale.

So, you are hoping for a change in vibe, or particularly nothing tangible that you could hang your hat on as a marker for success? how convenient.

Not a Tory voter.

Do know 90s wont be coming back.

We have services cut to the bone a declining tax base and already high tax burden - we also have many problems ignored for decades which are reaching points where ignoring then isn't an option.

Realistically there's little wriggle room or scope for large changes - talk of improving productivity and cut waste all governments do and find they can't budge. Everyone thinks everyone else should pay more tax or that it's easy to get tax where we aren't now - truth is we'll all end up paying more next few decades.

What's funny? What is there in that response that you don't believe will happen?

And damn right I'm angry after what the Tories have done to this country. Anyone in their right mind would be. Lying to the Queen, ignoring their won laws, creating a horrible and divisive country, under-funding everything and getting people to blame the most vulnerable people in the world for it. Yes, I'm angry. But not bitter, not now the end is in sight.

People do realise Labour are Torylite?

They were wrecked at at the end of the Labour one and global boom and bust blah blah but that risk exposure is what made us more vulnerable to the crash

We just had a long spending spree on credit first

We’re still paying it back

Ermmm all of it! 😂