To ask what you expect from Labour when/if they win the election?

[Welovecrumpets]

Just curious. I’ll be voting for them reluctantly but I’m not really sure what can or will be done about the state of the country. It seems we’re skint so they’ll just have to tinker around the edges.

I think you are getting your hopes up a bit too much. That is what they are finding funny.

Basically the same as we had under the Tories, more uniparty policies.

Increased taxes, decreased services, increased immigration, further removal of rights.

Well I guess you did the laughing emoji in your first post and had it in return to this one

It doesn’t sound like policy to me just a belief in ‘decent humans’. I can’t see it, they are as intent on power as any

What’s wrong with the 30 hour requirement? It’s not 30 hours anyway, it’s equivalent salary of 30 hours of minimum wage which is fair.

Shame. Would win them a lot of votes.

AKA living in cloud cuckoo land.

In fairness I do think Keir won’t take us out of the ECHR. Let’s face it, it’s helped make him and his mates jolly wealthy, while congratulating themselves on how superior they are to the boring commercial lawyers.
all at taxpayer’s expense, naturally

It would lose them a lot more votes.

OP asks what I expect. That is what I expect. They haven't released their manifesto yet, so I don't know what all the details will be. I find the laughter hilarious tbh because whatever people think of Labour, I don't think anyone really thinks it's going to be a repeat of the toxic, scandal-ridden, corrupt Tories.

As a life long Labour supporter ( other than the corbyn years), I feel strangely unexcited by the prospect of them gaining a landslide win. In All honesty, they don't stand for the working class voter anymore; I'm not sure what they stand for but it isn't for people like me. I predict the greens gaining huge wins from the Muslim/ young m/c communities who are pissed off about Labour's stance on gaza, and reform will pick up votes from disillusioned ex Tory supporters, alongside gaining a load more support from defected Labour supporters who want to tackle the topic of immigration. I'm actually politically homeless, but I'll do the right thing and stick my x in Labour's box just to get the Tories out. But excited? Nope not at all.

I am aware it is based on what you earn. You might think that isn't much but what if you have no available childcare in your area or no family nearby. Most kids have grandparents picking them up at my eldest school. My friend is on LWCA. She is from abroad and has mental health issues. No family nearby. How is she going to manage that? Very shortsighted to up the work requirements without thinking through the lack of affordable childcare or even just available childcare.

I’m sure they’ll find a way to be hopeless despite the elevated belief. They’re not that great as people

They’ve just been out so long people have nostalgia

No! Don't say hurty words about Keir - he's a nice man who wants to make everything better because he loves us!

My child doesn't want to mix with your child anyway. 🤣 Mine goes to a decent school and I don't have to pay for it.

An end to the gaslighting and a very slow but steady climb out of the cesspit the tories have dragged us in to.

Actually, I think, looking at the way the share of votes in the local election fell - rather than seats won - that reform are performing quite well. If that continues to the general election, I think it will bolster the right wing voices in the Tory party as they fight to retain or renew party support.

@EasternStandard They’ve just been out so long people have nostalgia

https://www.shrewsburylabour.org.uk/labours-top-50-achievements/

Damn right I have nostalgia for this.

And no, I don't think everything they did last time was great, and I'm certainly not expecting miracles this time around as we are in the shit. But to try and say they achieved nothing last time and it's all just nostalgia is absolutely ridiculous.

THIS! 😂Mine too!

It was a very different global situation don’t you think?

We were on the upward trajectory of a credit boom just before the crash

We had PFI to defer off gov book debt

We didn’t have the incoming migration pressures, volatility etc

I look at Butler and co and despair

I basically don’t expect much, pretty much in line with this thread. All a bit depressing

this is desperate stuff. A local Labour Party having to go back two decades to give people reasons to vote for them, because the current leadership is so utterly bereft of ideas and ability.
what a shitshow

https://www.stylist.co.uk/money/universal-credit-childcare-working-requirements-single-parents/879140

Excellent post, from another one who loathes the current batch of Tories but despairs at the alternative

As a centrist I just hope Labour don't get too large a majority; I prefer them to be big enough to (potentially) get things done, but not so large as to make a government believe they can do as they wish

Yes, a different situation, so it won't be the same, as I said. But you cannot put all their achievements on the global situation. That's just daft. Any why mention Butler et al as if she's a leading figure and going to be in the cabinet? She's a back bencher. I'm no massive fan myself, but she isn't going to be playing a leading role or shaping policy, so why single her out?

Because she’s not alone in her beliefs and take on gender stuff.

I dread more of that.

There’s no point in looking at the 90s completely different. I know you are excited. I just can’t see it, the realism on this thread seems more likely.

Everyone brace yourselves for another round of awesome music, Cool Britannia, £5 all you can eat at Pizza Hut, the rise of the ladette and heroine chic. I have my jeans, black T-shirt and round specs that make everything look pink ready, let's go.