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Teacher bought an ex students only fans?

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ShyPearlMoose · 02/05/2024 23:59

My friend has an x rated members website and has just told me that our old science teacher from secondary school has bought it! The same teacher that there were always dodgy rumours about him being a creep.

Is this worth mentioning to the school or is that over dramatic? It's really weird but she's 22 now and hasn't been at the school for 4 years.
Thoughts?

OP posts:
WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 14:27

This thread has at least prompted me to find out what the safeguarding policy around social media is at my daughters' school. Having assumed it would be the same as my former schools where I wouldn't have been allowed to accept a former pupil's Facebook friend request four years after they left (not that I'd want to because I never viewed the children in my class - and they are still children at 16 when you're teaching them - as potential friends and certainly not as future sexual prospects!), I am shocked to see on this thread that other schools may be more lax and that so many people apparently see nothing wrong with this man's behaviour.

No, I don't expect my daughters to go on OnlyFans by the way so I don't anticipate this exact situation for them. But if their science teacher right now is masturbating to OF footage of a young woman who four years ago was sitting in her school uniform in that classroom, I don't want him around my children. I wonder that anyone else could be comfortable with that.

I'd also be interested to know if OF is as protective of its creators as it apparently is of its customers, and if they can report subscribers who stalk or harass them without being in breach of data protection. I'm not saying he is a stalker, but if it escalates then I hope she can take action- and I'd certainly hope she can block him from seeing her content.

Tyiue · 03/05/2024 14:27

Elephantswillnever · 03/05/2024 00:03

I sort of think she could get in trouble due to data protection? Ultimately I don’t think he is (technically) doing anything wrong. Morally yes it’s pretty disgusting that he is presumably wanking over an attractive former student.

The OP doesn't say if the former student is attractive.

WearyAuldWumman · 03/05/2024 14:44

hobocock · 03/05/2024 14:20

It's vile and creepy. I find all of the people watching only fans vile and creepy, not just the science teacher.
He must recognize her. He really shouldn't have paid to watch an ex student of his, even if she is 22. He must know how completely inappropriate that is and obviously doesn't give a shit.

However, I don't know what the terms and conditions are for people who have only fans accounts. Surely they aren't allowed to name people who subscribe to their accounts? And certainly not then go and report them to their employer.
This is not to say that I'm dismissing the concerns and worrying about a data protection breach rather than about the young woman herself, but she does need to consider the legal aspects of it too to avoid any potential problems.

I assume she can block him though and that should be the first thing she does.

Sorry - haven't managed to do partial quotes on here yet.

I'd take issue only with the assertion that he "must recognise her".

If you're working in a secondary school, you're seeing around 200 pupils a week, maybe more in some subjects.

I've taught thousands of pupils over the years and any time I've had an adult former pupil bump into me, I've had to ask who they are because they've changed so much.

I did have a situation a few weeks ago where I thought that a young woman looked familiar (at a church service) but wasn't sure. She asked me whether I'd worked at X High School, which was when I realised that I was right. Still couldn't remember her name however. It can be embarrassing, but after you've been teaching a long time, you don't remember everyone - usually only a handful of 'star' pupils (for want of a better expression) or the wee reprobates who ran you a merry dance. The exception would be your very first classes - they stick in your mind more.

One time where I did recognise a name - but not the fully grown man standing in front of me - was when a school community police officer turned out to be one of my former pupils...and yes, he'd been a wee horror at school. (He laughed that becoming a police officer at a school was his penance.)

ConsuelaHammock · 03/05/2024 14:46

destinationzoo · 03/05/2024 00:50

Your friend is on only fans?
Who her 'fans' are is the least of her problems.

This. His private life is his private life. Does she think that only openly dodgy blokes are on only fans? Does she not have any higher aspirations than prostituting herself?

ConsuelaHammock · 03/05/2024 14:51

I can guarantee he won’t have a clue who she even is!

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 14:55

ConsuelaHammock · 03/05/2024 14:51

I can guarantee he won’t have a clue who she even is!

No you really can't guarantee that. It seems rather unlikely that he's landed on her page by coincidence.

Idontjetwashthefucker · 03/05/2024 14:59

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 14:55

No you really can't guarantee that. It seems rather unlikely that he's landed on her page by coincidence.

Or he has done, you have no way of proving otherwise so reporting it would get you nowhere, he's doing nothing illegal

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 15:03

Idontjetwashthefucker · 03/05/2024 14:59

Or he has done, you have no way of proving otherwise so reporting it would get you nowhere, he's doing nothing illegal

Again, it's so important in schools to report all safeguarding concerns. Sometimes they may be nothing. Sometimes they can't be proven. Sometimes they're a smaller piece of a bigger picture. Sometimes they identify a pattern and protect the vulnerable.

I agree with @WearyAuldWumman that you only remember a handful of students. But no one on here can say that his version of those 'star pupils' that stick in our minds aren't the attractive girls that he keeps a mental note of for his own gratification. This action, while not illegal though potentially in breach of his school's social media policy and therefore actually a disciplinary matter, would certainly be in line with that. Of course it may not be the case but no one here can prove it isn't, and his own behaviour isn't doing him any favours here.

Peanutsalty · 03/05/2024 15:08

They're both as bad as each other

Beezknees · 03/05/2024 15:53

ConsuelaHammock · 03/05/2024 14:46

This. His private life is his private life. Does she think that only openly dodgy blokes are on only fans? Does she not have any higher aspirations than prostituting herself?

🤨 men who buy onlyfans are disgusting and have no respect for women. Bollocks to his "private life" that involves buying women like objects.

HugeCwtch · 03/05/2024 16:23

Beezknees · 03/05/2024 15:53

🤨 men who buy onlyfans are disgusting and have no respect for women. Bollocks to his "private life" that involves buying women like objects.

So lets publish all viewers of all porn

Beezknees · 03/05/2024 16:30

HugeCwtch · 03/05/2024 16:23

So lets publish all viewers of all porn

Fine by me. The more we start shaming people who do, the better.

DeadbeatYoda · 03/05/2024 16:47

You're fine with your friend selling her wares but you're not fine with men buying them? That just smacks of hypocrisy.

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 16:51

DeadbeatYoda · 03/05/2024 16:47

You're fine with your friend selling her wares but you're not fine with men buying them? That just smacks of hypocrisy.

Not creepy ex-teachers, no. Because it crosses a line she isn't comfortable with. And since women have bodily autonomy and even those engaged in sex work are allowed to withdraw consent then actually a woman doesn't have to be fine with any man who wants to subscribe to her OnlyFans - she's allowed to judge and allowed to choose. A woman can sell her pictures, videos, interactions and whatever online but not to anyone and everyone who wants to buy. Men can buy sexual gratification but they can't buy respect.

Elephantswillnever · 03/05/2024 17:05

Tyiue · 03/05/2024 14:27

The OP doesn't say if the former student is attractive.

Well no but I’m sort of assuming if people pay to see you on only fans then there’s got to be something about you. If she was selling a weird, niche, kink I’d actually find it easier to understand as he might be turned on specifically by weird niche kink rather than idea of a former pupil

Nanny0gg · 03/05/2024 17:40

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 13:35

They can use it but not to masturbate over their former pupils or patients. It's a pretty low bar to set.

Do we know if she performs or pis3s or whatever under her real name?

cardibach · 03/05/2024 17:44

Fraaahnces · 03/05/2024 05:25

Absolutely. Why is he looking up ex students.

How do you know he is? She is an ex student. He may not recognise her. How would he go about ‘looking her up’ anyway - how would he now to look even?

cardibach · 03/05/2024 17:45

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 05:39

OP, lots of people have answered who don't understand teachers' safeguarding responsibilities, please do not listen to anyone saying 'it's not illegal' - maybe not, but it is a breach of professional standards and so unacceptable anyway. In all the teaching posts I have held, it's been a school policy that teachers do not have any social media contact with students for a minimum of five years after the students leave the school. That's normal social media - OnlyFans is a whole other level.

The school absolutely need to know about this; it is serious, it is creepy and your gut instincts are not wrong. He has sought out a former pupil for sexual gratification. It's not acceptable and if the school has robust safeguarding policies they absolutely will act.

Edited

I’ve never worked anywhere with that rule. I mean, I can see why some schools might have it, but it’s never been a rule anywhere I’ve worked. Not while they are pupils, yes. After they leave? No.

Spirallingdownwards · 03/05/2024 17:46

Report her too for breach of GDP

Sillyjane · 03/05/2024 17:48

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 10:47

Four years, not five.

I'm taking 'romantic relationship' to encompass any sexual relationship, including a transactional one. I can't see teaching regulators saying it's unacceptable for a teacher to date a former student but fine for him to pay her for sexual services?

Clearly, many schools have specific policies regarding social media contact between teachers and former students - as referenced in that page. In my previous schools, that was for five years. Again, the OP is talking about a four year period. I'm not sure where you got five years from.

I’d she’s 22 it will be closer to five. You keep posting about this policy but you seem wholesale unable to back it up.

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 17:51

I'm astonished by that @cardibach - it's so fundamental in an age of social media. To neglect that policy is to leave staff and pupils exposed to potential harm. I don't know of any schools where teachers would be able to befriend students online the day after they leave and it really shouldn't be the case. It's a scandal waiting to happen, and very surprising to have schools so lax on safeguarding.

Do we know he recognises her? We don't, we only have the details in the OP to go on - but based on the fact that the OP is considering reporting him, that suggests that she and her friend have reason to believe that he does know who she is. Clearly they don't think it's coincidental.

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 17:52

Sillyjane · 03/05/2024 17:48

I’d she’s 22 it will be closer to five. You keep posting about this policy but you seem wholesale unable to back it up.

The OP says four years, so it's four years.

Sillyjane · 03/05/2024 17:54

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 14:19

Maybe the reputation of a teacher who pays his former pupils for sexual content should be ruined?

It's forever baffling to me how sacred a man's reputation is to some people, as opposed to the safety of girls and women - and I absolutely believe a teacher watching porn created by a young woman he taught only four years ago may well be a risk to the teenage girls in his classes now and in the future. I value them and their safety far more highly than his reputation - which wouldn't be at risk if he wasn’t subscribing to ex-pupils' OnlyFans.

I find this so extreme, to move to accusing this man of being a risk to under age women he teaches simply as he subscribed to an ex pupils only fans five years after she left is for me heinous,

we don’t know how old this man is, he could be close t0 the woman on only fans age for all we know.and no I don’t like it either, but to go so far as to start saying he’s a risk to his pupils is shocking.

but I guess in the court of public opinion you will always have someone who takes it as far as they can/

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 17:55

Sillyjane · 03/05/2024 17:54

I find this so extreme, to move to accusing this man of being a risk to under age women he teaches simply as he subscribed to an ex pupils only fans five years after she left is for me heinous,

we don’t know how old this man is, he could be close t0 the woman on only fans age for all we know.and no I don’t like it either, but to go so far as to start saying he’s a risk to his pupils is shocking.

but I guess in the court of public opinion you will always have someone who takes it as far as they can/

Four years!

Sillyjane · 03/05/2024 17:56

WhatIfHesWrittenMine · 03/05/2024 17:55

Four years!

She’s 22 so it Will be closer to 5.