To be terrified about PIP?

[BobbyBiscuits]

I've tried to blank all this out for ages, but today it hit me when the government basically are saying I'm going to (they want me to) have my PIP cut off?
My main illnesses are severe depressive disorder, general anxiety disorder and severe anorexia. I've severe PTSD symptoms and also think I may have ADHD but have not been able to get diagnosed due to phobia of MH services since I got sectioned.
I now have physical symptoms also and severe osteperosis which I put on my last forms. But had no assessment for several years.
I'm praying this is BS from the Tories and they can't do it anyway as they'll be kicked out.
Or could labour still continue this assault against disabled people?
It would halve my already tiny income, other half is from ESA, and they could kick me off that too even though I can't do anything!?

What do people think?

Oh hello @ThisOldThang

I believe we met on a similar thread recently.

Ding ding round 2?

After the day I've had trying to access support for my elderly vulnerable step-mother plus supporting my elderly severely unwell father going round and round in convoluted bureaucratic health department circles, I'm itching for a scrap. Give it your best shot and lay off some of the people on here you're determined to kick while they're down.

For that poster maybe, but plenty of other posters have outlined where the financial help is needed, spent. Or have you missed those posts rather conveniently.

Well that just illustrates your ignorance as regards the illness and pretty much why an ill informed job centre worker wouldn’t be best qualified to make decisions as regards a highly dangerous illness and her ability to work.

Good luck with any such workers going through weekly physical observation stats and the many other safe guarding risks that accompany her conditions.

Have you tried getting enough nutrition into someone who can't or won't eat enough? Never had an elderly relative that had to have meal replacements? Ever tried thinking before posting a ridiculous question?

Where are you getting your information from?! 🙄 PIP is already not assessed by HCPs. The assessor's already have that very remit.

PIP is not an out of work benefit!! If PIP is stopped it will prevent disabled people working so they have to claim benefits!

Honestly, stop spouting utter nonsense!

PIP is not awarded based on financial impact. My DP would for sure get points based in the fact he needs prompting for basic self care.

Maybe try to claim it sometime, and see how fucked up the whole process is.

May i hold your coat, Mistress?

No, no proof of cost or spending is needed to claim PIP

I can't believe that Rishi is expecting us to forget that a few years ago the tories were trumpeting about mental health being equal to physical health, and that PIP was their idea!
I mean, if they can pass a law making Rwanda a safe country, I am half expecting te next thing to be a law saying that Kier Starmer has been PM since 2015, and that Rishi is in fact the opposition.

👏👏👏

@Elleherd 😁

Thank you darling 😘

Just doing a few limbering up exercises.....

So, you're claiming and you want your partner to start claiming because you have to remind him to have a shower.

Something that

1. Can't ever be verified to ascertain if it's true.
2. Has no financial impact to him, whatsoever.

And you all moan about people questioning if people are taking the piss?

Pretty sure we discussed additional costs during my DD’s assessment and the needs that incurred those costs. That said it was a while ago.

Shouldn't need to spell this out but here goes...the condition itself may have zero costs i.e to treat it. However, being disabled makes lots of things more difficult and people can end up isolated and depressed....unable to work, unable to do leisure activities.

As an example of leisure activities. An average person can go and swim at the council pool very cheaply. Someone with ASD may not be able to do that due to sensory issues - noise, temperature, crowds etc. In order to be able to swim they have to go to the more expensive pool.

FFS.

Goodness. How low are you prepared to go?

Tell us again what qualifies you to dismiss the lived experience of people sharing their fears and anxieties on this thread? Go on, we are waiting with bated breath to hear the source of your expertise ?

We are, agog with anticipation....

You do realise the idea is to encourage the person to eat?!

@SummerBreeze1980 this is why some sort of audit trail documenting these additional costs is being debated.

Being able bodied is a temporary state. I really hope you never get to feel the need to claim PIP. Maybe then, you will see what a depressing and dehumanising process it is.

But, like others, I remember you. You think people claim PIP for "writers cramp" and are living it up on taxpayers money.

BTW, the info I provided was my DP having ASD. If you think you can judge whether he would get PIP or not based on a brief statement, then you can fucking stroll on..

How much would that cost to implement? Wouldn’t it better spent on more psychiatrists and mental health professionals.

Honestly you have no idea what people with disabilities go through. Many people with disabilities can’t wipe their own arses to the point there’s toilets now that actually do it for you. Can’t think why such an appliance was invented??

The sheer jealousy you have of disabled people and their 'free money' is one of the most disgusting things I've seen on here recently and that's saying something!

I don't live with my DP so whether he claims or not is not going to affect me. I also don't claim PIP.

And a descriptor for claiming PIP is about prompting to have a shower... so don't have a go at me about it. I did not fucking write it.

Oh.op try not to panic. I've just been reassuring my DH who claims PIP. He has been waiting nearly 12 months for them to review it, and got emails (,whichnhe cant see) and automated phone messages pushing the government's line about getting back to work. He was retired on ill health, can't work and had a reasonable pension but the pip pays for things like a taxi to get out for his mental health, a chiropodist for his feet as despite being eligible for nhs care they can't offer appts for 12 months as as he's sight impaired he couldn't then reach the clinic alone. Not quite sure who would employ someone who cant see, read a screen or get somewhere without a guide cain.and knowing the route. I mean he could I suppose use a phone but then couldn't write the message down. In.all fairness PIP as others have said is to support with the expenses of disabled life and there are many, not to replace work. But then in true tory style it's easier to pick on the weak rather than provide the service. As for vouchers that will be for their friends to make more money on I would assume as I'll bey it will be for approved providers only.