To be terrified about PIP?

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I've tried to blank all this out for ages, but today it hit me when the government basically are saying I'm going to (they want me to) have my PIP cut off?
My main illnesses are severe depressive disorder, general anxiety disorder and severe anorexia. I've severe PTSD symptoms and also think I may have ADHD but have not been able to get diagnosed due to phobia of MH services since I got sectioned.
I now have physical symptoms also and severe osteperosis which I put on my last forms. But had no assessment for several years.
I'm praying this is BS from the Tories and they can't do it anyway as they'll be kicked out.
Or could labour still continue this assault against disabled people?
It would halve my already tiny income, other half is from ESA, and they could kick me off that too even though I can't do anything!?

What do people think?

This is what I think they will focus on. They will expect those that have a diagnosis of depression or anxiety to get therapy and resume full time work if that is what they need to pay their bills. I didn't think PIP was suppose to support someone to work part time i thought it was to help them buy in services to help with their disability?

That’s what I thought, I think it does need an overhaul of this is what it’s paying for, it should be for actual costs not paying for people to work only part time.

But pip isn’t just for those not working….I claimed pip when I worked full time….stilll claim it now I am working part time

You do what you want with the money

No. Some recipients have variable conditions that impact on their energy levels (such as MS). If you had the choice of working reliably part time or working full time and have a lot of time off sick which would you go for? Looking at sustainability the part time worker is better for the economy long term.

This is whom they seem to be targeting first.

I think they are targeting depression and anxiety rather than MS. I believe something will change as the recent numbers are click bait for voters.

Someone I worked with who had ME and COPD used PIP to enable her to reduce her hours and remain in work.

This. It is up to the person receiving the money, how they chose to spend it. It would stand to reason, I would have thought, that most people would spend the money on whatever it is that makes life a bit easier for them, whatever that may be.

Some people have health conditions where part time hours enable them to continue to work.

I am not disagreeing with the part time hours I am just giving my opinion on what I have read and they seem to be honing in on depression-and anxiety pushing for therapy and then cessation of PIP.

It’s a massive click bait as many voters want to see reform in the benefits system.

I don’t think you should worry too much. But I also think people are being very optimistic thinking Labour won’t do something similar if they get a majority. Rachel Reeves will be eyeing up the fast growing benefits bill as much as Jeremy Hunt is.

Where are the therapists going to come from? How are people supposed to pay for therapy without PIP?

I thought they had already said they will be looking at it, can’t remember where I saw that though.

Labour will clearly have to deal with the issue.

They will do so without the performative cruelty though.

Most people are repelled by this shite, hence Labour's polling.

They’d be given vouchers for therapy, or be reimbursed the costs when they provide the invoice/receipt.

Using what therapy services? There is no mental health support,.it's why so many people have long term low levels mental health issues.

The Green paper is suppose to be released on the 29th April. Wait and see what they propose.

I don’t think people with OP’s conditions need to worry but I do think there will be a massive overhaul on those that are in work. They will find some way to justify it. I’m not saying it’s right I just think that is what they are pushing for.

They probably wouldn't be able to afford to pay and be reimbursed later. And vouchers for therapy sound convoluted and expensive to administer.

And how can they be reimbursed for something they can't afford in the first place?

There’s not much nhs provision, there’s lots of private available though.

Exactly.

Voucher system would cost more to run I can’t see this happening.

It will start with those in work and role out from there.

Scares me too.

Poverty is t going to suddenly cure my ds of his degenerative neurological condition.

And if we don't have pip to fund adaptive measures for him then I'll have to cut my hours more (meaning I'd get UC) and or quit my job to be a carer full Tui me for him meaning they lose my taxes and have to pay me UC.

They are so short sighted.

I feel the same.

And I have a fear of Dr's and social anxiety so my medical records are actually pretty sparse but I have really bad MH issues and anxiety/ depression.

That's all that's listed, anxiety and depression but I have agoraphobia and OCD. I have intrusive thoughts constantly to the point I can't even put my bin out some days.
I'm awaiting an ADHD assessment.

And been referred to talking therapy but both wait lists are huge

I'm in the process of applying for PIP as my kids are adults now so all CB/CTC has stopped and I can't live on my ESA alone.

I'm really scared and actually been thinking how I can end it in a way that's not visable as 'on purpose' so my kids can claim my life insurance :(

I know that's ridiculous and the rather have me here but I'm so tired of living like this and now I have even more fear.
I wouldn't do it ever but it's becoming on eof my intrusive thoughts.