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To think there's never an excuse for not offering to take your shoes off in someone's home?

550 replies

CheerUpFFS · 26/04/2024 22:02

If you're a guest ( not working, I.e in a profession where you go into someone's house ) aibu to think there is never, ever an excuse to not at least offer to take your shoes off in someone's home? My mind is always blown when someone comes to mine and leaves them on,

Yabu - I keep my shoes on
Yanbu - I take them off

OP posts:
LordPercyPercy · 28/04/2024 16:30

I think shoes off indoors is more of a thing now due to different, less formal ways of living. People used to get up and get fully dressed including shoes. Sofas were for sitting on properly, feet on the floor.

Nowadays people lounge around in cozy indoor wear, walk around barefoot, curl up on sofas under blankets and lie on the floor. It's an environment that lends itself better to a no-outside-shoes policy.

BIossomtoes · 28/04/2024 16:35

People used to get up and get fully dressed including shoes.

Still do.

LadyEloise1 · 28/04/2024 16:35

YoureStuckOnMeLikeATattoohoohoo · 26/04/2024 22:04

I wouldn't even consider offering to take my shoes off in someone's house.

Nor me.
Perhaps it's not done much in Ireland
?

NoisySnail · 28/04/2024 16:36

I still get fully dressed before going downstairs. It seems lazy and wrong to lounge around on the sofa in pyjamas unless you are a child.

Deludamol · 28/04/2024 16:37

Lovinglife57 · 28/04/2024 16:07

Without shoes yes

Carpets should not curl up and die because someone wore trainers on them. If yours is that fragile, you likely made a very poor choice when you purchased it.

Lovinglife57 · 28/04/2024 16:59

Deludamol · 28/04/2024 16:37

Carpets should not curl up and die because someone wore trainers on them. If yours is that fragile, you likely made a very poor choice when you purchased it.

I have very expensive carpet in my home ...I have OCD so I clean clean and clean I have MH sorry if you cannot understand me I don't have anyone wearing shoes in my house please don't be rude there really isn't any need for it

BernardBlacksBreakfastWine · 28/04/2024 17:04

Lovinglife57 · 28/04/2024 16:06

💯

Not sure why you’re high-fiving this childish attack from @TeaPleaseX ?

I haven’t really given an argument for either side of this great and meaningful debate; @TeaPleaseX was objecting to my suggestion that her comments about shoes being ‘nasty’ and giving her the ‘ick’ were childish. Which they were.

LordPercyPercy · 28/04/2024 17:07

I still get fully dressed before going downstairs. It seems lazy and wrong to lounge around on the sofa in pyjamas unless you are a child.

I work from home. I get dressed but it's leggings and a hoody. I never have shoes on unless I go out, I hate wearing them.
My favourite thing in the evenings is lounging on my sofa in pjs though - why not?

Deludamol · 28/04/2024 17:12

Lovinglife57 · 28/04/2024 16:59

I have very expensive carpet in my home ...I have OCD so I clean clean and clean I have MH sorry if you cannot understand me I don't have anyone wearing shoes in my house please don't be rude there really isn't any need for it

I'm not being rude to point out that a carpet is designed to be walked on. It might be your preference to only walk on them in slippers. But in practical terms, there's scant difference to be made to wear and tear between slippers and trainers.

If you know you have an issue with cleanliness, then you can expect to see opinions that aren't congruent with your own.

LandArt · 28/04/2024 17:14

Kalevala · 28/04/2024 16:28

If the King visited your house would you ask him to take his shoes off ? No ? -then don’t ask me, I’m a guest. What do you think a welcome mat is for, or is yours an ‘unwelcome mat’ 😆

I wouldn't ask an elderly person as they may need shoes. Wouldn't treat Charlie any different to my nan though.

Well, he’d have someone to untie his shoelaces for him, and ceremoniously take off each shoe.

LordPercyPercy · 28/04/2024 17:18

@CulturalNomad I like to have a low toxicity home, so my underlay is low VOC then the carpets are pure wool.

Lovinglife57 · 28/04/2024 17:28

BernardBlacksBreakfastWine · 28/04/2024 17:04

Not sure why you’re high-fiving this childish attack from @TeaPleaseX ?

I haven’t really given an argument for either side of this great and meaningful debate; @TeaPleaseX was objecting to my suggestion that her comments about shoes being ‘nasty’ and giving her the ‘ick’ were childish. Which they were.

Hi five ? It was the fact of ppl can have different opinions..hope that clarify for you

Tigersonvaseline · 28/04/2024 17:29

It's beyond outrageous to ask elderly people to remove shoes in the house if they don't want too.

Absolutely ghastly behavior and aside from the poster who admits to having issues it's a sign of how mad we have become.

Many people wear shoes indoors and we are absolutely fine and living well... I've often noted the people who obsess about floors and carpets are usually the ones who cough without covering it up, don't ever ventilate with fresh air and so on.

Ie turn blind eyes to real germ spreading.

SabreIsMyFave · 28/04/2024 17:36

@Tigersonvaseline · Today 17:29

It's beyond outrageous to ask elderly people to remove shoes in the house if they don't want too.

I think people who ask people to remove shoes are annoyingly precious. Unless your shoes are filthy and muddy (which most peoples won't be) there's no need to remove your shoes. That's what doormats are for.

Also, several people I know who demand you remove your shoes have homes that are shitholes.

I refused to remove my shoes in one couples house as their carpets were minging and grotty. I only had open toed sandals on - no socks or stockings - and I wasn't putting my bare feet on their shitty minging carpets. FUCK knows what I would have caught from them. SHE said 'well we don't let anyone in without removing their shoes.' I said 'well this is a short evening then,' and left.

So yeah, the 'remove your shoes brigade' make me roll my eyes. 🙄

But why is it any worse to ask elderly people to remove them? What a bizarre comment!

Kalevala · 28/04/2024 17:38

CulturalNomad · 28/04/2024 17:11

Serious question for those who worry about dirt being tracked on carpet because they like to lay on the floor or their children crawl around on it...

Do you ever worry about the chemicals and other toxins associated with carpeting?

https://www.lung.org/clean-air/indoor-air/indoor-air-pollutants/carpets#:~:text=Chemicals%20used%20in%20some%20new%20carpets%2C%20carpet%20pads,organic%20compounds%20%28VOCs%29%2C%20which%20emit%20odors%20and%20chemicals.

My carpets are pretty old and I regularly have windows wide open from this time of year. I wouldn’t buy new carpets.

Kalevala · 28/04/2024 17:44

Tigersonvaseline · 28/04/2024 17:29

It's beyond outrageous to ask elderly people to remove shoes in the house if they don't want too.

Absolutely ghastly behavior and aside from the poster who admits to having issues it's a sign of how mad we have become.

Many people wear shoes indoors and we are absolutely fine and living well... I've often noted the people who obsess about floors and carpets are usually the ones who cough without covering it up, don't ever ventilate with fresh air and so on.

Ie turn blind eyes to real germ spreading.

Who said they'd ask an elderly person?

BernardBlacksBreakfastWine · 28/04/2024 17:46

Lovinglife57 · 28/04/2024 17:28

Hi five ? It was the fact of ppl can have different opinions..hope that clarify for you

I would suggest reading the thread carefully to avoid inadvertently saying something you don’t mean to. If you check, you’ll see the post that you were congratulating/high-fiving with your 💯was a post in which @TeaPleaseX was attacking my post with some nonsense about tracking grime into the house.

Again, if you check, my initial comments on this thread were precisely about accepting different views on this trivial matter. So please don’t try to preach to me about that.

BernardBlacksBreakfastWine · 28/04/2024 17:47

Kalevala · 28/04/2024 17:44

Who said they'd ask an elderly person?

The OP did. She says there’s ‘never an excuse’.

Djmaggie · 28/04/2024 17:58

Never been to a shoes off house ever & don’t expect my guests to take their shoes off. All those worrying about germs, do you expect people to change their clothes before they sit down in your sofa in case they have sat on the grass in the park or a bench?!

Megifer · 28/04/2024 18:07

Don't be daft 🤣🤣 if you want people to take their shoes off just say, its not difficult (although I fully understand not wanting to utter the words 😬). I never automatically take mine off and never will.

Anyone who isn't family/close friend just taking their shoes off at my door will be swiftly told to put them back on

Tigersonvaseline · 28/04/2024 18:12

@Djmaggie that's opening up a whole other can of worms.

My goodness! Anyone who travels on public transport or even sits with others in public 😱.... You only see it when you see it unfortunately.

Re aksing elderly people well of course many older adults have very good mobility etc but many struggle to bend down and get shoes on and off.

TheOriginalEmu · 28/04/2024 19:31

BusterGonad · 27/04/2024 15:30

I do ask, generally it's obvious and usually the visitor will ask. I was more referring to the other posters who don't offer and storm on in as if it's their own home. And the side eye comment was referring to other posters making out 'shoe off' hosts are totally unreasonable.

its not ‘storming in as though you own the place’ to just come in with your shoes on if that is what is normal to you. That kind of hyperbole is silly and totally undermines your argument.

TheOriginalEmu · 28/04/2024 19:32

Kalevala · 28/04/2024 17:44

Who said they'd ask an elderly person?

Elderly people are part of everyone. And the OP thinks everyone should offer. No excuses.

BewaretheIckabog · 28/04/2024 20:07

TheOriginalEmu · 28/04/2024 19:32

Elderly people are part of everyone. And the OP thinks everyone should offer. No excuses.

The OP quoted me and was rather rude; I raised disabilities and the answer was ‘there’s always one’.

Had their post been whether it was reasonable or desirable to have a shoes off policy in your home I would have supported her.

My issue was the absolutist ‘there is never a reason’.

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