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To think there's never an excuse for not offering to take your shoes off in someone's home?

550 replies

CheerUpFFS · 26/04/2024 22:02

If you're a guest ( not working, I.e in a profession where you go into someone's house ) aibu to think there is never, ever an excuse to not at least offer to take your shoes off in someone's home? My mind is always blown when someone comes to mine and leaves them on,

Yabu - I keep my shoes on
Yanbu - I take them off

OP posts:
Arconialiving · 27/04/2024 11:54

BIossomtoes · 27/04/2024 11:39

I can’t get over someone with two cats and a puppy worrying about shoes on their floors. The double standards and lack of logic are incredible.

I know Grin

RampantIvy · 27/04/2024 11:57

NameChangedAgainn · 27/04/2024 09:44

My takeaway from this thread is that the "shoes off inside" crowd don't clean their floors often enough, and this makes me even less inclined to take my shoes off ta anyone else's house. I'm not concerned about outside germs on my floor as it's cleaned regularly and nobody is eating off the floor.

Wrong.
I regularly clean my floors.
We inherited a perfectly good light coloured carpet when we moved in.

I don't ask people to remove shoes. It's just something everyone does round here anyway, but if someone chooses to keep them on that's fine by me unless they are wet and muddy.

I wear slippers in the house because they are more comfortable than shoes.

Arconialiving · 27/04/2024 11:57

Lovetotravel123 · 27/04/2024 11:48

Japan is one of the most civilised and respectful societies. There, you can’t even step over the doorstep in your shoes. Why would we not want to do as they do?

Because we're not Japanese nor brought up in that culture?!!

easylikeasundaymorn · 27/04/2024 11:57

Lovetotravel123 · 27/04/2024 11:48

Japan is one of the most civilised and respectful societies. There, you can’t even step over the doorstep in your shoes. Why would we not want to do as they do?

do as they do?
Like capital punishment/state executions? Being the only G7 country to not recognise same sex unions in any form, and deeming them against the constitution?
Oh yeah, very civilised and respectful.

Let's live in a country where my best friends' marriage isn't recognised as legally valid, but hey, at least my carpets are 0.01% cleaner....

1offnamechange · 27/04/2024 12:00

BIossomtoes · 27/04/2024 11:39

I can’t get over someone with two cats and a puppy worrying about shoes on their floors. The double standards and lack of logic are incredible.

but the cat and puppy surely never go outside and step in any dirt, mud, shit?
And if they did, I'm sure they thoroughly clean their own paws with water and bleach before stepping back into the house. Surely?

MasterBeth · 27/04/2024 12:03

CheerUpFFS · 26/04/2024 23:54

HAHA I'm nit but I'm a big fan I have to admit! I love Abbey Clancy's interior design programme on itvbe too I recconend for anyone who loves houses/ cleaning and styling them!

Oh yeah, I imagine footballers wives-type houses are pretty big on the no shoes.

avatfl · 27/04/2024 12:03

This has really shocked me!

I have to do regular home visits and always offer to take my shoes off, it's the way I was taught.

I was also under the impression that was the polite thing to do when visiting someone's home? In a professional capacity of otherwise.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 27/04/2024 12:04

Germs and dirt particles aren't only on shoes. Also, many people have pets who are constantly in and out of the house.

LakieLady · 27/04/2024 12:04

PoopingAllTheWay · 27/04/2024 01:51

I always take my shoes off, and i ask people who come into my house to as well
We have grey carpets and dont want people walking around in shoes in my home

Shoe covers are near the front door if they prefer, i always ask trades People to use shoe covering , Sky man, Electrician, British Gas Engineer and ALL of them have actually had there own. So it is very common

Edited

I used to do a job that required us to visit people in their homes. Some clients had OCD and insisted on shoes being taken off.

Following an incident where someone got a needle stuck in their foot, we were all issued with shoe covers and the H&S policy for home visiting was revised to reflect this.

Then a colleague slipped on carpet in their shoe covers and was off for weeks with a bruised coccyx. H&S was revised again, and we had to meet any "shoes off" clients in community settings after that.

I've never trusted shoe covers since!

MasterBeth · 27/04/2024 12:07

CheerUpFFS · 26/04/2024 22:44

I have three cats and a puppy! Hence keeping a very clean home. Tbh they don't cause much trouble if you keep on top of it, they're not dirty or messy. And yes I know my cats roam and come and go but they have no choice about footwear whereas visitors do! ( also my cats can do no wrong ever )

So you are against people walking microscopic traces of dog shit that they apparently picked up on their shoes, but you are fine with actual dog and cat bumholes wiping across your carpet?

Proof that this is not about "cleanliness" or a "health hazard".

RampantIvy · 27/04/2024 12:12

I was also under the impression that was the polite thing to do when visiting someone's home?

It is, but a lot of rude, self entitled people don't seem to think so.

zingally · 27/04/2024 12:12

It's not that important?

I didn't come from a shoes-off family, so it's not second nature to me. If people ask me to take my shoes off, then of course I will, but I'm not volunteering to do it.
I've been house viewing the past couple of months, and haven't taken my shoes off once, and no one has asked.

KimberleyClark · 27/04/2024 12:22

Just waved off some visitors who stayed with us for two days. The husband walked around in bare feet on our hard floors the whole time.

Catsmere · 27/04/2024 12:22

RampantIvy · 27/04/2024 12:12

I was also under the impression that was the polite thing to do when visiting someone's home?

It is, but a lot of rude, self entitled people don't seem to think so.

You really are stuck in the "my cultural norms are universal" mindset, you know. What's considered polite in your area/class isn't even applicable through the whole country, let alone other countries.

BIossomtoes · 27/04/2024 12:25

RampantIvy · 27/04/2024 12:12

I was also under the impression that was the polite thing to do when visiting someone's home?

It is, but a lot of rude, self entitled people don't seem to think so.

It isn’t if the homeowner asks you not to. It’s taken literally years to get one particular visitor to our house to take on board that we don’t want their shoes cluttering up our tiny hall. This is a shoes on house, it’s rude and self entitled to remove them here.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 27/04/2024 12:28

ChaosMoon · 26/04/2024 22:08

I have chronic pain in my legs and have to wear orthotics in my shoes too make it bearable. If I go barefoot, I'll be in tears within an hour.

But you're right. There's no excuse for not offering.

I’m the same, but I take my slippers or house shoes if it is wet underfoot ( or if I know someone is precious about it) and change when I get there.

Tootsey11 · 27/04/2024 12:29

Some posters on this thread are batshit. As long as you haven't been out across a muddy field then shoes on, I really don't care. And Op, there really is more to life than an immaculate house.

KimberleyClark · 27/04/2024 12:32

Also microscopic traces of anything can’t do you any harm. They are microscopic.

HotChocolateNotCocoa · 27/04/2024 12:33

CheerUpFFS · 27/04/2024 10:26

I think if that's what you took from me stating facts that my house is spotless and pristine you need to spend a good amount of time sorting yours out, no need to project your inner thoughts about your home being a shithole onto me - I'm not obliged to live in one because it's makes other people feel better and at no point have I used any of those terms? The cleanliness of my home is relevant to my views thank u hun xxx

I don’t need to spend any time “sorting my house out”, thank you. I just don’t have a massive stick up my crack.

Thepeopleversuswork · 27/04/2024 12:39

We are a shoes off household and I would generally offer but there’s absolutely no need for the melodrama and fastidiousness of claiming it is “rude” not to take shoes off.

Its very much an individual choice and plenty of people don’t do this.

I also think flapping about hygiene is totally ridiculous. No one ever became ill from dirt brought in on someone’s shoes. And if you have white carpets then more fool you.

Notimeforaname · 27/04/2024 12:39

I have never been to a home where I was asked to take my shoes off. It's never happened. If I've come in soaking from horrendous rain or had to walk through mud, of course I would but that goes without saying.

Once, I came home with a friend after a long day , had new runners on my feet that happened to be hurting me so as soon as I got into my hall I took my shoes off, friend panicked and said "oh is it shoes off house?" I told her no, I just had sore feet.

She then said "oh ok I thought for a second this was one of those weird houses that makes you take your shoes off" 🤣

We're in Ireland, not sure if that makes a difference but I've never been expected or asked to do it anywhere here.

Notimeforaname · 27/04/2024 12:41

And if you have white carpets then more fool you.

I was thinking the same thing🤣

Catsmere · 27/04/2024 12:45

Notimeforaname · 27/04/2024 12:41

And if you have white carpets then more fool you.

I was thinking the same thing🤣

Same, most impractical colour one could choose.

BusterGonad · 27/04/2024 12:48

1offnamechange · 27/04/2024 11:51

"it's pretty gross to not have clean carpets"
Unless you have your carpets professionally deep cleaned at least twice a year they are gross regardless.

"According to estimates, carpets are 4,000 times dirtier than toilet bowls.
There are over 200,000 bacteria in every square inch of carpet, including some truly sickening germs, such as MERSA, campylobacter and norovirus. And that’s not even counting the insects such as dust mites or allergens such as pollen, pet dander and mold that collect in your carpet’s fibers.
Carpets are so bad that the United States National Institute of Health advises against them. A 2018 study concluded, “…continued caution should still be exercised when considering the use of wall-to-wall carpeted floors in schools, kindergartens and offices, as well as in children’s bedrooms unless special needs indicate that carpets are preferable.”
one square yard of carpet can contain up to 1 lb. of dirt and still appear to be clean. That’s because most dirt falls to the base of the carpet, where the fibers are glued and/or sewn into the matting. Looks clean and is clean are two different things.
To make matters even worse, most vacuums lack the power necessary to remove any more than a small fraction of the dirt, dust, germs and grime trapped in carpets. The only way to truly clean your carpets is with expensive, professional carpet cleaning. Carpet cleaning professionals recommend cleaning lightly used carpets at least twice per year, and heavily trafficked areas such as entryways and first-floor hallways 12 to 24 times per year."

Offices, kindergartens and children's bedrooms are well used and germy places, the first 2 are usually shoes on areas, the children's bedrooms are most likely covered in food particles, boogies and all gross things kids have on their hands.

The carpets tested are a good argument to therefore remove your shoes to lower the probability of such viruses entering your home, I'm sure if the test were done on no shoes households the numbers would be much lower.

With saying all of that, I don't spend good money in nice carpets for lazy entitled gits to walk in with their muddy outdoor shoes on. No one is forced to come to my house, if they don't like removing their shoes in the carpeted parts of my house that is fine, they can go home.

Comtesse · 27/04/2024 12:49

Hoovering lines into your carpet? Oh OP this is loopy.

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