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To think there's never an excuse for not offering to take your shoes off in someone's home?

550 replies

CheerUpFFS · 26/04/2024 22:02

If you're a guest ( not working, I.e in a profession where you go into someone's house ) aibu to think there is never, ever an excuse to not at least offer to take your shoes off in someone's home? My mind is always blown when someone comes to mine and leaves them on,

Yabu - I keep my shoes on
Yanbu - I take them off

OP posts:
GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 27/04/2024 09:33

CulturalNomad · 26/04/2024 22:26

Contrary to what I see here on MN, I've never been an invited guest in anyone's home and been asked to remove my shoes. Not once.

So no, when my host answers the door wearing shoes I don't offer to take my own shoes off.

Same. Unless shoes were very wet or muddy it was never a ’thing’ in my family/friends when I was growing up, and still isn’t. I know only one person who insists - she has virtually white carpets downstairs - but I rarely see her anyway.

FWIW, we have had our own dds and later, 3 x little Gdcs, crawling all over our carpets/hard floors, and AFAIK nobody has ever caught anything from them. Should add that we’ve also had cats and dogs and they have never been required to take their paws off, either.

I often think there is an unhealthy obsession with “hygiene” - I use quote marks advisedly - among some MNers.

Flowersonmyorchid · 27/04/2024 09:37

I'm amazed how many people wear their shoes in other people's houses. It's weird and rude. I'm with you OP.

EnjoythemoneyJane · 27/04/2024 09:40

I feel like this is something that’s gradually changed over time in parts of the UK. Thirty or even twenty years ago it wouldn’t have occurred to me; now it’s something I ask automatically as I go into someone’s house and I’d say almost 100% of visitors to my home do (south east). Maybe due to broader cultural influences from Asia and Scandinavia?

The guy who came to sort out the electricity meter last week took his off without being asked (I wouldn’t have asked him but I appreciated it), and another guy did some work in the loft and brought shoe covers. All my kids’ friends have done it from a young age.

It doesn’t massively bother me because I want guests to feel comfortable but I guess now I notice it much more when people don’t even ask. And I’d only ever mention it myself if they’re going upstairs into bedrooms, never if they’re just visiting or coming for dinner.

WalkingonWheels · 27/04/2024 09:41

I'm a wheelchair user. What would be the point in me taking off my shoes? Would you expect me to remove my wheels? Or just not be friends with me in case I got dirt on your floor?

NameChangedAgainn · 27/04/2024 09:44

My takeaway from this thread is that the "shoes off inside" crowd don't clean their floors often enough, and this makes me even less inclined to take my shoes off ta anyone else's house. I'm not concerned about outside germs on my floor as it's cleaned regularly and nobody is eating off the floor.

Nousernamesleftatall · 27/04/2024 09:46

NameChangedAgainn · 27/04/2024 09:44

My takeaway from this thread is that the "shoes off inside" crowd don't clean their floors often enough, and this makes me even less inclined to take my shoes off ta anyone else's house. I'm not concerned about outside germs on my floor as it's cleaned regularly and nobody is eating off the floor.

100% this.

ticktickticktickBOOM · 27/04/2024 09:47

toomanyy · 26/04/2024 22:04

YANBU. There are millions of faecal germs on shoes, people bringing that into homes is just nasty 🤮

If dog owners didn't let their dogs shit all over our streets this wouldn't be a problem.

HotChocolateNotCocoa · 27/04/2024 09:47

CheerUpFFS · 26/04/2024 22:53

I hate asking it's so awkward! In the least pompous way possible my house is spotless and it's obvious when you arrive so good manners should be removing footwear surely if you cam recognise its something important to the host? It's not difficult or superior standards it's just different standards.

“Ooh, not that I’m being in any way pompous, but my house is spotless and pristine and immaculate - not like the revolting shitholes some of you beshoed people must live in with your filthy feet! Surely everyone should just know how perfect my house is?!”

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Oneofthesurvivors · 27/04/2024 09:51

My ankles collapse if I take my boots off for too long so yes there are reasons to keep them on.

nothingsforgotten · 27/04/2024 09:51

Poltershighclimb99 · 27/04/2024 07:46

I live in the south and it’s very common to take shoes off in someone’s home, I always ask and almost always they say yes please. I don’t want people wearing shoes in my house but mostly so it doesn’t ruin the carpets!! Also shoes are incredibly filthy. My very large family are in the north and it is unusual to take your shoes off there. No idea if it’s area based or just coincidence!

What sort of precious carpets do you have in the UK? I've lived in houses with carpet my whole life (I'm nearly 65) and have yet to see one being ruined by people wearing shoes.

ticktickticktickBOOM · 27/04/2024 09:57

Isn't this why we have doormats though? So people can give the bottoms of their shoes a clean and shine up before walking round the house?

I have a shoebrush outside for mud and leaves, a rough doormat outside for dust and dirt and a long doormat in the porch to dry and shine- nothing gets past my shoe shine trio.

nothingsforgotten · 27/04/2024 09:57

Spendonsend · 27/04/2024 08:01

I always assume the rich people dont do the cleaning and can afford to replace carpets regularly and dont have sheet vinyl which dents with heels.

We have hard floors so im not fussed about shoes on/off downstairs, but i would prefer shoes off if someone went upstairs on the carpets.

Once again, you must have very odd carpets in the UK. I don't know anyone who regularly replaces their carpets because they have been ruined by people wearing shoes, and I don't actually know anyone who doesn't wear shoes inside.

Spendonsend · 27/04/2024 10:10

nothingsforgotten · 27/04/2024 09:57

Once again, you must have very odd carpets in the UK. I don't know anyone who regularly replaces their carpets because they have been ruined by people wearing shoes, and I don't actually know anyone who doesn't wear shoes inside.

Its not so much they regularly replace them specifically because of shoes, but carpets are subject to wear and tear and eventually need replacing. I feel shoes are heavier wear and tear than changing into slippers or feet, particularly if they arent clean shoes. If you havent got much money you take better care over what you have than if you think its ok in 10 years time i can just get a new carpet.

nothingsforgotten · 27/04/2024 10:17

Spendonsend · 27/04/2024 10:10

Its not so much they regularly replace them specifically because of shoes, but carpets are subject to wear and tear and eventually need replacing. I feel shoes are heavier wear and tear than changing into slippers or feet, particularly if they arent clean shoes. If you havent got much money you take better care over what you have than if you think its ok in 10 years time i can just get a new carpet.

I am almost 65 and have never lived in a house where the carpets have been replaced every 10 years! A little bit of wear is not a reason to replace the carpet.

Catsmere · 27/04/2024 10:21

ticktickticktickBOOM · 27/04/2024 09:57

Isn't this why we have doormats though? So people can give the bottoms of their shoes a clean and shine up before walking round the house?

I have a shoebrush outside for mud and leaves, a rough doormat outside for dust and dirt and a long doormat in the porch to dry and shine- nothing gets past my shoe shine trio.

Yes, I wondered about this upthread. Curiously neither OP nor any of the other no-shoe posters has anything to say about it (except the person with the remarkably rude doormat).

I remembered just before an incident years ago when a tradesman left his boots at my door. I'd never seen that before and my inner reaction was surprise and "ew". It's not your house, mate, who invited you to walk around in your socks?

Catsmere · 27/04/2024 10:25

nothingsforgotten · 27/04/2024 09:57

Once again, you must have very odd carpets in the UK. I don't know anyone who regularly replaces their carpets because they have been ruined by people wearing shoes, and I don't actually know anyone who doesn't wear shoes inside.

Same, I've only lived in one house where the carpet was replaced, and that was done before I moved in. (Sigh - best thing about that house, lovely sort of marled cocoa colour, a synthetic blend that was very easy to clean and didn't show the odd bit of cat puke.)

CheerUpFFS · 27/04/2024 10:26

HotChocolateNotCocoa · 27/04/2024 09:47

“Ooh, not that I’m being in any way pompous, but my house is spotless and pristine and immaculate - not like the revolting shitholes some of you beshoed people must live in with your filthy feet! Surely everyone should just know how perfect my house is?!”

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I think if that's what you took from me stating facts that my house is spotless and pristine you need to spend a good amount of time sorting yours out, no need to project your inner thoughts about your home being a shithole onto me - I'm not obliged to live in one because it's makes other people feel better and at no point have I used any of those terms? The cleanliness of my home is relevant to my views thank u hun xxx

OP posts:
LightDrizzle · 27/04/2024 10:27

While you are probably right in 90% of cases I think people might have good reasons.

There were a couple of teenage years for me when my feet really stank despite washing daily. I had sweaty feet and hands. We had to walk long distances between buildings between classes and don’t don’t always get a chance to wash your feet in the day. Also not everyone can afford multiple pairs of shoes and rewearing stinky shoes with clean feet soon raises a stink again.

I’d have been so embarrassed to remove my shoes because their hallway would absolutely honk and people would have thought I was dirty and disgusting. It really did smell bad.

CheerUpFFS · 27/04/2024 10:31

Catsmere · 27/04/2024 10:21

Yes, I wondered about this upthread. Curiously neither OP nor any of the other no-shoe posters has anything to say about it (except the person with the remarkably rude doormat).

I remembered just before an incident years ago when a tradesman left his boots at my door. I'd never seen that before and my inner reaction was surprise and "ew". It's not your house, mate, who invited you to walk around in your socks?

Just catching up, a door mat at best will get off loose debris but will never be as clean as shoe less feet. I feel like doormats are there as a welcome mat and a place to scrape shoes but not an invitation to keep them on, more to remove leaves or whatever else for you to put them on again later.

OP posts:
LightDrizzle · 27/04/2024 10:33

We don’t wear shoes in the house now and I automatically start taking mine off in other peoples although sometimes people say don’t bother, but if adult guests come to us and see me and DH in socks or barefoot and walk past the shoes by the door then I don’t ask them to take their shoes off. I just clean when they’ve gone. It likely they have a reason not to.

When I was a child, shoes off houses were really, really rare. It’s definitely changed over the years.

justasking111 · 27/04/2024 10:36

I'm really glad we've got dogs and a cat,

2 vacumn cleaners , carpet cleaner and a mop and bucket are useful I find.

Maybe people should put in those troughs with disinfectant for guests to get clean before entering.

Kalevala · 27/04/2024 10:39

Depends on the house. If I'm walking through a back or side door into a hard tiled farmhouse kitchen, with a resident dog, then I'm unlikely to ask unless my boots are muddy. Most houses I would.

5128gap · 27/04/2024 10:43

As far as I'm concerned, my home and everything in it is for the convenience and comfort of my family and my guests. While i like it to be pleasant, It is not some precious artifact to be faffed and fussed over and displayed for admiration. I'd never sacrifice comfort or convenience of my household and guests in the hope they will enjoy looking at an immaculate home more than feeling relaxed in it. Because they won't.

ticktickticktickBOOM · 27/04/2024 10:47

CheerUpFFS · 27/04/2024 10:31

Just catching up, a door mat at best will get off loose debris but will never be as clean as shoe less feet. I feel like doormats are there as a welcome mat and a place to scrape shoes but not an invitation to keep them on, more to remove leaves or whatever else for you to put them on again later.

I have teenage boys with lots of teenage friends. I would definitely not count on their bare feet being cleaner than their shoes

Greybay · 27/04/2024 10:50

CheerUpFFS · 26/04/2024 22:53

I hate asking it's so awkward! In the least pompous way possible my house is spotless and it's obvious when you arrive so good manners should be removing footwear surely if you cam recognise its something important to the host? It's not difficult or superior standards it's just different standards.

Sorry OP, but you see it wouldn't even occur to me to take my shoes off. It's simply not the done thing where I live. Nobody does it so, no, it's not obvious.