Baby Reindeer creator is provoking his stalker

[jengachampion]

SPOILERS AHEAD
I’ll preface this by saying I had a male stalker for 7 years. I moved, changed jobs, and deleted all social media in that time. I’m also a survivor of SA, as well as assault after being spiked, similar to RG in the show.

It completely baffles me that he would completely replicate his stalker down to physical likeness, occupation, accent, exact correspondences and references like hanging curtains.

He is clearly not too worried about people finding the real person, as well as her potentially contacting him again.

If it were me telling my story, I would change all identifying details of both of us, because I would NEVER want to go through it again. RG telling his story this way is hugely weird to me and really speaks to the theme of mutual obsession he hints at in the show.

They did do a good job of showing a trans person who was confident and competent yes I'll agree with you there.

Why didn't reindeer protect Teri though and let them report the assault?

Also @ExpertInNothing stop stealing the language of oppression and weaponising it. Women can see through that shit.

He should have.

Yes to the police though rather than Netflix would be my top tip.

Well you quoted me so you got me responding to you, funnily enough

Im more convinced you're just on a wind up now

P. S. Quoting yourself does a lot for looking credible 👌🏻

😂👌🏻

Our MRA is also a TRA.

For the avoidance of doubt, I am an adult human female. A woman. I don't identify as a woman. I am one.

Then I would applaud the audacity/the point being made about press intrusion, herd mentality, the court of public opinion, public shaming, pitchforks and cancel culture.

It would have required
having several social media accounts, going back years with interaction in between (not the parody one/duplicate set up to divert/distract/get clout/confuse)
it would mean the dedications and thanks to owners of the pub in his play dedications in 2019 were also false
it would mean that articles going back two decades about the woman were fake/planted (RG would have been 11/13 yrs old when allegations against her, which she denies, were first published)
it would mean his internalised homophobia/fetishist trans gaze were part of the plot for reasons unknown

It would be the biggest hoax since J T Leroy, James Frey or Anthony Godby Johnson.
I'd applaud and hand out every award going.

Sadly, I think it is not that - it may have been embellished, certain things added or changed (there are differences between play and series e.g. in the play she gropes him behind the bar not near a canal, Teri is attacked verbally but not physically) but it is a story with real events and real people and real feelings involved.

If it had been based on a composite, in cahoots with a friend playing a part, it would still be sticky legally by using real life stories when some are still alive.
Then the second plot point of the predatory celeb.
It is always precarious having a real life person named as a perpetrator.
Not the first nor last time you've had a national appetite for whodunnit (John Leslie, Huw Edwards, Phil Schofield, Kevin Spacey).
If the named person were in on it, to show how human interest becomes something darker, again an audacious feat worthy of a Malcolm Hardee Cunning Stunt award.
Highly unlikely though, more's the pity.

We need to be aware of it and not use inflammatory language <obviously> but don't think we need to respect it tbh.

Sadly victims of all genders have struggled with the police, but regardless of how you identify, you should report.

Well some people identify differently, your allowed to identify how you wish and all credit to you. Live and let live.

But no one disputes that 'you should report'.

The issue is making a telly show with a clearly indentifiable volatile, possibly mentally ill person featured, without their consent.

Can you not see that is wrong and actually potentially dangerous?

Are you aware how ironic your posts are? 'Live and let live' but you shout down people who aren't arguing with you, argue with yourself, and tell a victim of stalking - again, you'd know if you actually read the thread - that my comment was silly when I decided to tell part of my story

I think it's a better world if we can respect peoples identities. BR did a great job of portraying someone who is trans, which deserves credit.

I'm very sorry to hear you have been stalked. I don't think I did see that part. I hope that is still not the case. Sincerely.

Those who identify as transgender really should respect women. Sadly we see little evidence of that.

I don't think we can tarnish the whole trans community.

It's not, thankfully but I live in fear of the man that did that to me and it ever happening again*. It does show that you've not read the thread properly though, maybe have a re read and you'll stop arguing about things that haven't been said

*so I won't pitch it to Netflix

Are you a man?

Why is it a privilege to be so much more likely to be abused or assaulted that people don’t question it?

Doesn't it give us a snapshot of the culture though? The negative comments we see from those who identify as transgender attacking high profile women like JK Rowling. Are they the minority, do most agree with JK Rowling then would you suggest?

If it means anything I hope your okay. I may disagree with you in some things, but I do hope your in a safe place!

So oddly I never got the hate against JK Rowling, but transphobia is real.

No one of any persuasion, preference, identity or sex, has to report anything to anyone. Whatever the crime, all fault lies with the perpetrators.

In Monkey See Monkey Do, Gadd makes a wry comment about this - in terms of wearing a t shirt and shorts he wasn't "asking for it, hey ladies?" - and there have been museum exhibitions of clothes worn by rape victims, to make that point.

I remember seeing The Accused as a teenager and the effect it had on me, as the main character had been drinking/dancing/flirting a little in the bar (prior to the gang rape) and was castigated for it. The awful enabler cackling "Wanna play pinball?" lasciviously and me wanting to throw up.

I have no idea what would count as just in this particular case.
Historic offences are hard to prove so Gadd's rapist is unlikely ever to face justice.

Stalking appears to be impossible to prevent unless the person makes a convincing threat. I have no idea if Gadd received a caution in real life (he does in the play, no idea what for, entrapment? counter-stalking allegation? it seems laughable) but if the stalker was never charged, let alone convicted, or for that matter helped, where's the justice in that?

We are all indeed talking about the topic - National Stalking Awareness Week 2024 was 22nd - 26th April - the theme for this year's awareness week was "Joining Forces Against Stalking," where all members of the public were encouraged to unite in putting an end to this crime.

I'm not sure that meant by stalking the stalkers - I count myself as complicit in that but also understand now why Gadd found his stalker compelling. It's like watching a car crash in real time. You find yourself rubber necking and cannot tear your eyes away.

On a good note, I have deleted my Twitter and Facebook accounts, just Mumsnet and Tattle life to go! help me stop procrastinating ffs