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Baby Reindeer creator is provoking his stalker

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jengachampion · 26/04/2024 10:02

SPOILERS AHEAD
I’ll preface this by saying I had a male stalker for 7 years. I moved, changed jobs, and deleted all social media in that time. I’m also a survivor of SA, as well as assault after being spiked, similar to RG in the show.

It completely baffles me that he would completely replicate his stalker down to physical likeness, occupation, accent, exact correspondences and references like hanging curtains.

He is clearly not too worried about people finding the real person, as well as her potentially contacting him again.

If it were me telling my story, I would change all identifying details of both of us, because I would NEVER want to go through it again. RG telling his story this way is hugely weird to me and really speaks to the theme of mutual obsession he hints at in the show.

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Lalor · 28/04/2024 16:04

ExpertInNothing · 28/04/2024 16:02

Yes because thinking that we should listen to abuse victims is problematic.

No, saying the same thing over and over and posting when no one was replying to you about how men are worse off than women is 'problematic'

Heliss · 28/04/2024 16:04

ExpertInNothing · 28/04/2024 15:54

So I will say it again, if you are more critical of Gadd than you would be a women, you are proving female privilege.

Jesus, bore off will you.

ExpertInNothing · 28/04/2024 16:06

Incidentally if any abuse victims from any gender (male, female, non binary, etc) is put off telling your story based on some of the comments from posters here.....please don't, your well-being matters.

Lalor · 28/04/2024 16:12

ExpertInNothing · 28/04/2024 16:06

Incidentally if any abuse victims from any gender (male, female, non binary, etc) is put off telling your story based on some of the comments from posters here.....please don't, your well-being matters.

Wtf are you on about, seriously. Literally no one have made it male vs female but you. Thank God us women have the privilege of being assaulted, eh

ExpertInNothing · 28/04/2024 16:16

What a silly comment.

TodaysNameIsBoring · 28/04/2024 16:16

@Janiie
The inconsistencies in his story telling are massive.

It was based on something that happened but he has been very clear that it's a fictionalised account of his real life experience of being stalked. It's a Netflix drama not a David Attenborough style documentary.
He isn't accountable to anyone. He's made a fascinating drama. It was brilliantly acted and well produced (if an episode or so too long). He doesn't owe the public anything.
It difficult to understand why he behaved how he did but he is the first to admit that.
If I was him or if I was Netflix I would have disguised the texts and emails from the stalker. I don't know why they didn't think to change them. Maybe it was a genuine mistake. I don't know.
And if I was the stalker I would have deleted the emails as soon as the play of Baby Reindeer came out all those years ago.

I think the newspaper that are trying to contact the stalker are the real villains in this. They really are scummy people.

kkloo · 28/04/2024 16:17

ExpertInNothing · 28/04/2024 16:06

Incidentally if any abuse victims from any gender (male, female, non binary, etc) is put off telling your story based on some of the comments from posters here.....please don't, your well-being matters.

If anyone would put anyone off telling their stories it's you.
Your MRA bullshit is incredibly harmful to women, and to decent men.

Lalor · 28/04/2024 16:21

ExpertInNothing · 28/04/2024 16:16

What a silly comment.

But you literally just said I shouldn't be put off telling my story, didn't you? Or am I only allowed to do that in a way you feel acceptable? Careful, your privilege is showing... You might need a mop for the irony spilling everywhere

ExpertInNothing · 28/04/2024 16:21

kkloo · 28/04/2024 16:17

If anyone would put anyone off telling their stories it's you.
Your MRA bullshit is incredibly harmful to women, and to decent men.

I don't identify as an MRA, and advocating that male victims receive help and not be accused of "provoking" their abusers which is literally in the title of this thread should not hurt women.

Mirabai · 28/04/2024 16:21

ExpertInNothing · 28/04/2024 16:06

Incidentally if any abuse victims from any gender (male, female, non binary, etc) is put off telling your story based on some of the comments from posters here.....please don't, your well-being matters.

If any posters are put off the male sex by your vile misogynist comments, remember - NAMALT.

Mirabai · 28/04/2024 16:23

ExpertInNothing · 28/04/2024 16:21

I don't identify as an MRA, and advocating that male victims receive help and not be accused of "provoking" their abusers which is literally in the title of this thread should not hurt women.

Calling out a stalker in public will always provoke them regardless of the gender of the victim. You would be strongly advised not to for your own safety.

Victims are advised not to provoke them into escalating their behaviour, which includes not deleting them on digital media etc.

Hadjab · 28/04/2024 16:25

JustWhatWeDontNeed · 26/04/2024 10:14

Tbh I wasn't sure if the whole thing was some sort of elaborate "hoax".

Unless my stalker was dead or serving life in prison (and even then), I would never have made the show.

I'm being spammed about BR everywhere I look and it's making me very sceptical.

I literally thought this, this morning. What if it’s a long con, and they’re both in on it, and come clean after awards season, when the show inevitably cleans up?

ExpertInNothing · 28/04/2024 16:25

Mirabai · 28/04/2024 16:21

If any posters are put off the male sex by your vile misogynist comments, remember - NAMALT.

Nothing I have said is misogynistic, that's a dog whistle.

It's not misogyny to say that we should listen to make victims as equally as female ones.

kkloo · 28/04/2024 16:26

ExpertInNothing · 28/04/2024 16:21

I don't identify as an MRA, and advocating that male victims receive help and not be accused of "provoking" their abusers which is literally in the title of this thread should not hurt women.

I don't care what you identify as. Your posts speak for themselves.. Bleating on and on and on with your agenda.

OP was referring to one victim and questioning whether that person is provoking the stalker. The fact the victim is a man is irrelevant. I'm sure she would have also questioned this if the victim of this story had been a woman.

But you're going on and on and on with your agenda.

Lalor · 28/04/2024 16:26

ExpertInNothing · 28/04/2024 16:25

Nothing I have said is misogynistic, that's a dog whistle.

It's not misogyny to say that we should listen to make victims as equally as female ones.

No one has said they aren't though. You've just tried to shout down any women saying women aren't taken seriously either... That's a misogynistic part

ExpertInNothing · 28/04/2024 16:27

Lalor · 28/04/2024 16:26

No one has said they aren't though. You've just tried to shout down any women saying women aren't taken seriously either... That's a misogynistic part

I don't know if your a women on not and would treat you the same nonetheless.

Mirabai · 28/04/2024 16:28

ExpertInNothing · 28/04/2024 16:25

Nothing I have said is misogynistic, that's a dog whistle.

It's not misogyny to say that we should listen to make victims as equally as female ones.

That isn’t, pretty much everything else is, and the implication that female victims are taken seriously is incorrect.

Attributing additional services for violence against women due to the high death and injury rate “female privilege” is as misogynist as it gets.

ExpertInNothing · 28/04/2024 16:28

Lalor · 28/04/2024 16:26

No one has said they aren't though. You've just tried to shout down any women saying women aren't taken seriously either... That's a misogynistic part

How you identify is your business.

Lalor · 28/04/2024 16:29

ExpertInNothing · 28/04/2024 16:27

I don't know if your a women on not and would treat you the same nonetheless.

Equally unpleasantly then? Lovely

And if you'd read the whole thread, you would know what sex I am

ExpertInNothing · 28/04/2024 16:30

Something else we have not discussed is the portrayal of the trans character also. I thought they did a wonderful job of finally showing a trans person who was confident, competent, and admirable.

ExpertInNothing · 28/04/2024 16:31

Lalor · 28/04/2024 16:29

Equally unpleasantly then? Lovely

And if you'd read the whole thread, you would know what sex I am

I'm sorry you think listening to victims is unpleasant.

ExpertInNothing · 28/04/2024 16:32

ExpertInNothing · 28/04/2024 16:31

I'm sorry you think listening to victims is unpleasant.

Again to any victims here, please don't be put off coming forward.

Lalor · 28/04/2024 16:32

ExpertInNothing · 28/04/2024 16:28

How you identify is your business.

Every post just gets more wtf. How I 'identify'? I don't 'identify' as a woman, I AM a woman

WinterDeWinter · 28/04/2024 16:33

@ExpertInNothing needs to look into the difference between equity and equality.

When victims of gendered abuse are overwhelmingly female and the perps overwhelmingly male, me-me-me cries of 'not fair' and DARVO most certainly are misogynistic.

ExpertInNothing · 28/04/2024 16:34

Lalor · 28/04/2024 16:32

Every post just gets more wtf. How I 'identify'? I don't 'identify' as a woman, I AM a woman

Some people identify differently though and we should respect that.

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