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Male Nursery Staff

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herei · 24/04/2024 15:59

My child is in Nursery after my return to work. They nursery chain have been hiring make staff recently. My child's nursery has 3 male staff.

My daughter's nappy was changed by a male member of staff. For my own personal reasons I feel upset about this but not sure if I can even say or do anything. I just don't like it.

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leopardsnowleopard · 24/04/2024 17:23

IntermittentFarting · 24/04/2024 17:17

I wouldn't be happy with a man I'd never met rubbing cream on my baby daughter's vulva with his hands either.

I couldn't care less how unreasonable that makes me.

They wear gloves

FridayForever · 24/04/2024 17:23

I think PP is right, and the only way to avoid this is to look after your child yourself, or pay a nanny. Neither may be financially viable - i think we as a society need to make it so that families can choose a SAHP and still afford to live. You shouldn't be in a position where you're scared for your child but have no option.

PietariKontio · 24/04/2024 17:29

AlpineMuesli · 24/04/2024 16:58

Haven’t rtft but had a quick google as many seem certain this can’t happen and this was the 4th story down.

https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/stoke-on-trent-news/nursery-worker-abused-young-children-9235926.amp

No-one said it wouldn't happen, just that with proper safeguarding it's preventable. As a parent, we should be more concerned about safeguarding processes than the sex of the workers. I could easily find lots of female abusers of early years age children, would that disprove that women are safe?

Look at the figures for abuse in elderly care, how many of them are female? Again, what protects vulnerable people isn't the sex mix of the staff, it's the policies and procedures in place, and how both the leaders of the service ensure that they are followed, and how every staff member is vigilant.

Without them, kids are at risk from women and men, and removing men may make your kids safer, but they will not be completely safe unless the practice ensures it, in which case the sex of staff is irrelevant.

pinksheetss · 24/04/2024 17:29

I feel really sorry for the posters who believe men have no place there and automatically assume something sinister about a male changing children's nappies. It really does suggest a lot about that persons mind and it's a shame they live life feeling that way

As someone who puts her dd to private nursery... when you put your child to nursery you have to trust that EVERY person is background checked and safe around children. Females included.

Desecratedcoconut · 24/04/2024 17:36

PietariKontio · 24/04/2024 17:29

No-one said it wouldn't happen, just that with proper safeguarding it's preventable. As a parent, we should be more concerned about safeguarding processes than the sex of the workers. I could easily find lots of female abusers of early years age children, would that disprove that women are safe?

Look at the figures for abuse in elderly care, how many of them are female? Again, what protects vulnerable people isn't the sex mix of the staff, it's the policies and procedures in place, and how both the leaders of the service ensure that they are followed, and how every staff member is vigilant.

Without them, kids are at risk from women and men, and removing men may make your kids safer, but they will not be completely safe unless the practice ensures it, in which case the sex of staff is irrelevant.

What's all this, we should?

Parents can observe that sex is the most striking variable in determining patterns of criminality and in seeking out vulnerable victims. And then they can decide if that changes their own risk mitigating strategies.

Dolly567 · 24/04/2024 17:38

I'm sorry but it's strange.
Not a chance.

Anovelname · 24/04/2024 17:41

I was abused as a child by a man who I know went on to work in a nursery (and a choir with young children, and also coaching children’s sports…sense a pattern there?!). I reported it to the police, but nothing seemed to come of it (I’m guessing as it was historic).

So no, I would not be happy with this. Perhaps it’s unfair, but I don’t care about fairness when it comes to my child’s safety.

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 24/04/2024 17:43

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I would have loved a few male staff when my son was at nursery.
You’re ridiculous.

Sauvblanctime · 24/04/2024 17:44

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You know these kids have Dads? Granddads? Uncles??

Prawncow · 24/04/2024 17:47

I wouldn’t be happy. Yes, women can be abusers but the vast majority are male. Statistically, if a child has male carers they’re at a higher risk of being sexually abused.

Concretejungle1 · 24/04/2024 17:47

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you do realised RELATED males are the biggest cause of sexual abuse?
as for no male midwives 😶
i’d rather male midwives and nursery staff than someone like you looking after kids with this attitude.

mummyh2016 · 24/04/2024 17:48

I don't think nursery is for you. They haven't done anything wrong. If you're not comfortable with it that's on you.

Higglings · 24/04/2024 17:49

herei · 24/04/2024 15:59

Sorry for spellings I meant Male

Op I'm with you on this, I'd feel unhappy too. I think you need to take your child away and find a female staff only nursery.

RemarkablyBrightCreature · 24/04/2024 17:50

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Your ignorance is startling. This simply isn’t true and is a dangerous and naive view.

Prawncow · 24/04/2024 17:51

I was abused as a child by a man who I know went on to work in a nursery (and a choir with young children, and also coaching children’s sports…sense a pattern

I’m sorry that happened to you. Paedophiles actively seek out access to children. It’s not a coincidence that they end up with jobs/ volunteer positions that allow them to get close to children. That’s why I’d be wary of male nursery staff.

tuvamoodyson · 24/04/2024 17:51

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Vanessa George.

Helenloveslee4eva · 24/04/2024 17:52

ScarlettOBan · 24/04/2024 16:01

The majority of nursery staff are female and they change boys nappies.

Would you be uncomfortable with a female changing your son’s nappy if you had a son?

Miss quote sorry

burnttoad · 24/04/2024 17:55

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🙄

Anovelname · 24/04/2024 17:57

@Prawncow exactly. I’m sure it’s unfair on some lovely men, but I don’t care.

Treelichen · 24/04/2024 17:57

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What a disgraceful comment.

Fidgety31 · 24/04/2024 17:58

My son works in a nursery . He has faced this type of prejudice . It’s a shame that some people are so pathetically narrow minded
Equality is supposed to work both ways - but only when it suits some posters !

burnttoad · 24/04/2024 17:59

@LambertndButler

The other examples you give aren’t changing nappies. Related males are much less of a risk than unrelated males. This is basic stuff.
So basic that you got it wrong. By far most cases of sexual abuse in within the family unit. THIS IS BASIC STUFF

jannier · 24/04/2024 18:01

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Wtf....

Prawncow · 24/04/2024 18:04

It’s not about equality it’s about stats and risk. There’s a reason that we’re reluctant to let boys use the men’s bathroom on their own. There’s a reason that mothers going back generations have told their children, if you’re lost, look for a lady.

shattereddreams1 · 24/04/2024 18:05

Curlyblondefemale · 24/04/2024 16:34

I get where you're coming from so I hate to point this out but the last case I recall about a worker abusing children in a nursery was actually a woman (Vanessa George) New rules were put in place after this to prevent others doing the same.
I didn't want anyone changing my sons nappy because of my past experiences so I waited until he was fully toilet trained (2 and a half years) before I went back to work.
You could try speaking to the nursery to see if that lessens your anxiety or maybe you'd feel more comfortable with a childminder rather than a nursery.

No that was one of the last ones that made the news and that was because she was female.

Definitely not the last worker to offend against a child sadly.