70s bush envy

[Sparklybutold]

Is it just me or does anyone else have bush envy? Yes I mean pubic hair bush. I swear I have alopecia down there. I would love a big soft bush. Apparently you can get a bush wig which I'd seriously consider.

(Dear Aston University - stick that in your pipe)

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I didn't know that! Almost deserves a thread of it's own 😂

I'm 66 so I have a nearly 70's Bush

I do think you're right, but I also think it's wrong to categorise all women into the "influenced by" box as it removes autonomy.
But, young women are inflating their lips to sex doll proportions at the moment, so id be an absolute idiot to assume that society and sexual culture doesn't play a huge roll in producing various "looks", including BJ lips and hairless bits.
I do accept that without question.

Equally though, there's pressure from women to women playing out at the same time.
This push for the "natural body" is an interesting one (to me) because it implies that those who grow pubic hair are natural and free from conformity.
But, as a civilised race, we are far from natural with our bodies and we all conform to societies expectations of us in some way or another aesthetically.

We cut the hair on our heads, we put crowns and fillings in our teeth, we replace teeth with fakes when they fall out, we cut our fingernails, we deodorise, we certainly dont walk around town in our natural state of undress, so it does feel like "natural" is only seized upon in as a demand in very specific contexts - body hair being one of them.

There has to be a middle point somewhere. Some people can groom their nether regions without being influenced by porn, some people can grow their nether regions without leading a completely natural life.

What on earth is that supposed to mean ? We naturally have hair there !

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so you think you are ‘choosing’ when in fact it has been chosen for you

Nope, I’ve explained to you at length the physical conditions related to me that mean I remove a small portion of my pubic hair.

You don’t believe it because you don’t believe that other women have different physicality to you, and different care needs. Unless you would like to see my medical notes I can’t do more to enlighten you on that one.

No one is - Not me or you or anyone who participates in culture or lives in a society.

My peers, my culture, my social circle, my fashion influences, my consciousness raising and discussion groups are filled entirely with dykes- women who are hairy, gender non conforming, radical lesbian feminists.

Whatever is popular on porn hub this week is not going anywhere near influencing what my community and peers find acceptable.

Yes, I roll about the world and know other types of women- no, I don’t alter my body to make it look like theirs, or so that I can play at making men fancy me, or even to make gay women who prefer no hair fancy me (I’ve never met one in 30 odd years of being out, but I’m sure they exist).

That just isn’t how I experience my life.

I'll fight with people if I want cheers.

And having a natural bush is not taking care of yourself?

Funny, we're both raging lesbians who remove our own hair but are perfectly happy with whatever anyone else wants to do with theirs, including sexual partners, being repeatedly told that we're slaves to porn despite the fact that we've been binning our hair off since well before the internet proliferated the porn the we don't watch throughout society. 😂

Quick question tho, why if you've been so influenced by porn, have you not been influenced to grow your hair out by your radical feminist gender non conforming peer group of 30 years?

It would be interesting to see a graph of age and public hair, surely older women don't bother, although I may be wrong

I agree.

The pressure is very real- and fashion is obviously real.

But there are also other factors that influence how people manage their own bodies which are not patriarchy or fashion related.

I do something with my body hair which is apparently what men prefer women to do- I fully accept that. But it’s a coincidence.

The women who can conceive of NO OTHER REASON TO DO SOMETHING OTHER THAN IT BEING WHAT MEN PREFER are the ones centring the male gaze in their thinking- I’m just managing my complicated intimate care the way that works for me. Men’s tastes don’t enter into my thinking at all.

You can take care of yourself without removing all the hair barely anyone sees anyway. Taking care of yourself doesn't mean removing hair to make your bits look like a prepubescent tween.

Quick question tho, why if you've been so influenced by porn, have you not been influenced to grow your hair out by your radical feminist gender non conforming peer group of 30 years?

😀 it’s funny- it’s almost like I have my own personal (physical) reasons to deal with my own cunt the way I want to…

and funnily enough only on mumsnet is ‘feminism’ so utterly lacking in intersectionality that people presume to tell a disabled, wheelchair using and intimate care receiving women that not only is she wrong about her motivations for managing her body, she is actually wrong about the kind of care it needs.

I've never understood this mentality of grown adult women being bald down there for themselves or their partners. To me if you make it bald and smooth it's going back to being a baby and child and why would any adult male or female want their partner to look like a child down there unless they are a wrongen that's into that kind of thing? Your basically telling your partner that u like when they look like a child down there and that gives me major ick and I'd be checking your hardrives. On the other hand I do shave my "spiders legs" as my partner calls my bikini line but only when I am going to be putting on a bikini or swimsuit I.e when going on holiday but that's it my partner loves my bush.

Almost got tea up my nose laughing at this.

It's far healthier to keep your pubic hair. I dont anymore because 4 c sections caused a massive baldy patch in the middle with sparse hair around it! In my youth it was thick lush and Auburn. 🤗. It helps protect you from disease, namely sexually transmitted ones as well

@TheLadyofShalotts Excellent pair of points and bloody well made.

This! No need to shame anyone who chooses either way or somewhere in between. It bothers me that people get so het up about how it’s natural to have hair and not to judge them then accuse people who do prefer no hair of looking like children (which is absurd).

Of course it’s not! It’s just some women like to feel more smooth and clean - it has nothing to do with looking like a baby ffs - that’s a disgusting thing to accuse someone of.

If you think that having a hairless vulva makes any woman look like a baby or a child then you are seriously lacking in thinking skills.

In fact, the emphasis that you and posters like you have put on women trying to look like children gives me serious 'ick'. It is also true that convicted paedophiles are only the tip of the iceberg. Give that some thought when you and other posters refer to your partners' views in this respect.

Men don't search for images of children/very young women, no. Not at all. Not all of them anyway. Ugh.

Exactly! It’s what feels comfortable to you, if that means no hair (like me) then that’s fine, it has nothing to do with men whatsoever and I don’t want to look like a child 🙄. So shaming on this post.

Only on Mumsnet!

Totally agree, it’s horrible to make these accusations. I don’t shave my legs to look like a baby so why is it any different on my bikini line? I just don’t like hair there, I don’t like the feel of it, never have. I don’t give two hoots about fashion or what men want.

Wait… are 70’s bushes back in then (sorry not read the whole thread but loving what I have read!!)
I knew I’d come back into fashion in one way or another!!!
Love my hairy bush!!

It seems a few do. When I last went to have my chin waxed (oh, the shame!) the technician told me her oldest client is over 80 and has a Hollywood. She was very indiscreet and told me there was nothing there but she still keeps going and they don’t want to upset her! She also told me she hasn’t got many very young clients.