AIBU to expect those on benefits to pay tax on their benefits?

[DistinguishedSocialCommentator]

Hi

Reading a thread on MN, I noted a FM stating that a financial org a well respected one cited that the tax system in England should be fair and "balanced" tax system, and their meaning of "balance" is different to mine

IMO, a "balanced" tax system is where those on benefits inc Housing benefit, should pay taxes if they are getting over the nations/England's tax free allowance that most working people get, IE £12,570 a year 2023/2024

Some on benefits, even though benefits have been so-called capped - are still getting a lot, lot more than those in work. Most working people also have travelling costs and in London that can easily equate to a hundred pounds a week

AIBU to tell the lame government to tax those on benefits that are getting more than the tax allowance of £12,570 - Inc in benefits the cash payments via bank, the Housing benefits, and the reductions they get in council tax.

IMO, it is only fair to those that are working many hours a week often 40/50 hours and two hours of traveling time and in london many paying around a hundred quid in travel costs and having to endure nasty managers and co-workers and abuse as they travel to and back from work

IMO, the above would indeed be a "balanced" tax regime and possibly encourage some back to work

NB: Feel free to agree or disagree but rest assured I will ignore nasty, rude posts. There are millions on benefits and IMO my proposal needs to be considered . It could be my proposal is fundamentally flawed and or needs tweaks - therefore, helpful comments will be fully considered

Who’s the OP?

Other than someone who should give the Daily Mail comments section a go?

Oh it's you again.

Exactly 💯

Thank you for that - I was not aware of that as never recd any benefits

However, I'm referring to the total income in benefits and benefits in kind, EG, coucil tax discount and hosuing benefits along with the other benefits inc sick pay

Its not nice but fair as no one really wants to pay tax but if we all paid some part of it as per my OP - more people would be happier to pay taxes as long as its not trashed by gov's

Oh for goodness sake not another thread by this esteemed poster🙄

Rishi is that you?

Most people on universal credit already work and pay tax, you absolute plant pot 🤣

If they were earning enough to live on then they wouldn't get benefits.. and you want them to pay more tax?

Or are you just aiming this at disabled people who can't work?

You are of course aware benefits are classed as the absolute minimum amount a person requires to live right? London people get an extra allowance because its more expensive

More admin for no reason is kind of the OP’s fetish.

So how much will it cost to tax benefits that will need collecting, and then pay back out to the post on society, and then tax that

I think the op is either goady or hasn't thought through his post

The government base benefits on need, you think this government is giving more than they think people need to live on ? What a joke 🤣

People on benefits aren't better off than people who work , that's not how it goes

Eww we are wank fodder?

Most people who claims benefits also work and pay all the same expenses such as travel costs. Or they are carers. They aren't just sitting on their arses counting their free money. This country relies heavily on vast numbers of people paid just NMW to keep it running. Benefits top this up to something resembling a manageable income. Sounds like you think the poor should be poorer OP?

In actual fact there has been an increase in benefits payments this month and people are actually being paid more than they were.

By ‘on benefits’ do you mean just anyone receiving universal credit? Because lots of people ‘on benefits’ work and therefore pay taxes and have the types of travel costs that you described. Or am I missing the point?

Apologies for the underlining - I just wanted to see how it felt and honestly, my post now feels 30% more important. 😂

Yes some people choose to be spat on and hated for the mere pittance of benefit money the government gives them,whole working 2 or more jobs.

Those absolute lazy fuckers

You are are the minimum wage is the absolute minimum, right??

You are aware that most people that work have to pay to
travel to work and in city's like London many pay around a hundred pound a week, right?

You are aware that the worker has to pay for the travelling cost, right?

I hope you get it now.

Surely benefits are set at a rate knowing tax etc will not be paid on them. So the benefit will have to go up, if tax is to be paid.

And how would this work? Would the person in receipt of benefits have to submit a tax return?

All seems an awful lot of (costly) admin for no real gain. Particularly when many benefit claimants might not know the ins and outs of tax and benefits law, just as has been shown by the whole carer's allowance fiasco.

Thank you for that - I was not aware of that as never recd any benefits

There's a lot you're unaware of - why do you think you can post with even an iota of authority? <tilts head>

Stop it. You're killing me!😂😂😂

Distinguished drip would probably be happy to pay for all of those costs out of their own pocket so long as it ensured the poor were being made poorer 🙃

You "expect?"
Delusions of grandeur methinks. & just like your AIBU, paying taxes on benefits doesn't actually make sense. Think about it - slowly

AIBU to tell the lame government to tax those on benefits ......

Fill your boots, please tell the lame Government, I'm sure they will act on it.

The OP is an AI whose entire training dataset was comments from Daily Mail articles

Hang on. So only people who don't claim any benefits have expenses?

Did the breastfeeding/colostrum thread not get you enough attention? 🙄