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Our neighbour (in the flat below) has asked we stop talking at 9:45pm at night?

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DoingTheMumThing101 · 22/04/2024 16:31

We live in a shared townhouse and the couple downstairs have asked that my partner & I stop talking at 9:45 pm in the evening because they can hear us? We have only been living here for 1 week and get the kids to bed early, we are then woken up by them below speaking at 6am. AIBU?

OP posts:
Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 23/04/2024 09:24

Chipperfish · 23/04/2024 07:55

This takes me back to a ground floor flat we had many years ago - the neighbor upstairs had come to complain about the noise of the bathroom door slamming in the first week. It was a rental flat, and the door had a spring closure mechanism which meant it closed with force, so we as reasonable people said we would disable the spring mechanism (restoring it when we left the flat) and thought it was all good. Apparently he returned complaining about our general living noise several times but always got DH who would calmly listen and then say - well, we will do our best to minimize noise but we also have the right to live here too, and shut the door on him. We were a fairly quiet couple and the things he was complaining of were the noise of the extractor fan in the windowless bathroom (couldn't be decoupled from the light switch) and the washing machine being used during the day.
He was a bit of an odd duck, our neighbor, sort of bearded hipster type before it was ironic, and had lots of political posters up in his windows - at this time there was much discussion of national identity cards being brought in, the Identity cards act had just passed and he was campaigning against so lots of ' no to state surveillance' type posters'

And then one day he came down to complain again, and he got me out of bed at 7am. I was on my maternity leave, fucking exhausted 38 weeks pregnant with a nearly 9lb baby kicking at my bladder, impossible to get comfy because of SPD, waddling round like a miserable goose with indigestion and carpal tunnel syndrome. He rapped on our door and when I eventually got there started straight in shouting at me that we had used our bathroom 9 times overnight (because he could hear the fan and lightswitch turn on) and this was absolutely unreasonable and did we have incontinence problems?
Unlike my calm and peaceable DH, I went pregnant psycho ballistic on him, not swearing but basically cold, angry scorn - that yes, it was sort of a medical issue and what sort of freak keeps tabs on his neighbors bathroom visits anyway? Pointed out that his great concerns for ID cards and civil liberties were just so much bullshit when he was acting like the toilet stasi and that instead of coming down ranting at me with ridiculous demands not to use my bathroom he could focus his energy on sound proofing/insulation in his own flat, as we had a right to use our bathroom and while we had altered the door, the fan/light set up in the flat was unlikely to change during our or any other tenancy.
He started angry but shrivelled like a balloon deflating - he hadn't thought to be met with any opposition, so scuttled off apologetically and after that avoided us (well, me) He got new carpets delivered a week later and we never heard a word about new baby noise.

I love you! Well done. People often hate confrontation.

Years ago I lived in shared townhouse. We had NDN's who apparently were ASBO types with a huge Rottweiler. Poor dog was old and arthritic and used to be let out into the garden late at night especially when they had visitors who'd stay and drink (never loud), then never got let back in and used to howl and bark. Our landlady/lord (a couple) never wanted to complain. They were scared of the NDNs. I felt sorry for the dog to be honest, not it's fault it's owners weren't letting it back in or didn't have a dog door fitted or a kennel for it to lie in.

One morning after being kept awake most of the night again (earplugs helped but didn't completely resolve the issue) I managed to find details (landlady had left them lying around in the kitchen) of the landlord's of NDNs. I rang them, explained the query, said I wasn't the landlady but a tenant/lodger in a house share. They told me the NDNs were in the process of being evicted but it would take a while. I told my landlady who was furious I'd rang them, but I told her I wanted to know what happened as I paid her rent and it was disrupting my sleep. I actually moved out myself 2-3 months later as I'd found another property to share but gave proper notice.

My landlady had no intention though or if she did have, she was stalling on it, of doing anything about the issue.

Cluelessaf · 23/04/2024 10:53

On a practical note I would stick some kind of battery nightlight in the bathroom to use overnight as I would be woken by a fan going off too. In hotel bedrooms I use the torch on my phone!

SamBeckett · 23/04/2024 11:00

GalileoHumpkins · 22/04/2024 17:22

I agree with them, any noise after 9.45 is extremely antisocial and annoying. Could you not text each other instead of talking?

Yes @DoingTheMumThing101 you should do this , but make sure your msg alert tone plays Dog Barking / Queens We will rock you /police / fire engine sounds.

😂

Chipperfish · 23/04/2024 11:02

Thanks, but that flat was years ago, we have long moved on, Cluelessaf

The bathroom was an internal bathroom, with no window and had a vent built in to the outside wall in a boxed in space over our bed. So the light was used all day round for all bathroom visits: and he complained about them all. A nightlight would have been a suboptimal solution for showers and baths, plus the fan was needed for air clearance. Oddly enough taking responsibility for insulation and the carpets seemed to solve his problem better than ranting at us and previous tenants had.

PossumintheHouse · 23/04/2024 11:06

East solution to this. Stop talking, start shagging, at 9.45pm on the dot.

echt · 23/04/2024 11:10

This is a preposterous joke thread, surely?

CheeryPye · 23/04/2024 11:23

Ask them to stop talking at 6am then. Seriously, the fact you've only been there a week when the unreasonable demands have already started suggests to me that they have had issues with the previous residents and think that by laying the law down the minute you move in, they can prevent a repeat of the previous issues. A couple of obvious problems with that, firstly you aren't the previous residents and secondly it is not unreasonable to talk in your own property.

A word of warning, I've seen this before and complaints this early on usually progress into long running disputes and the neighbour ends up being the unreasonable one who after having a previous bad experience is so afraid of repeat problems that they become the problem themselves. If that's the case then expect complaints regularly about silly trivial things as they try to force you to live in complete silence tip toeing around them. Don't be surprised if their behaviour descends into harassment if they can't get you to do what they want.

Unfortunately if you're going to live in a shared building you have to expect to hear other people living a normal life.

StaunchMomma · 23/04/2024 11:24

They need to be told to, as my dear old Nan would say, 'Bobby off!'.

trainboundfornowhere · 23/04/2024 11:52

They are being unreasonable. I would ask if you have a fireplace in your home though? I live in a four in a block and have one of the upper flats. The flue runs from the chimney on the roof straight down to the ground floor in our building. As a result we can here our downstairs neighbours talking (mostly indistinctly) whenever we are both in our living rooms but if they are drinking we can hear whole conversations.

ziggies · 23/04/2024 14:48

trainboundfornowhere · 23/04/2024 11:52

They are being unreasonable. I would ask if you have a fireplace in your home though? I live in a four in a block and have one of the upper flats. The flue runs from the chimney on the roof straight down to the ground floor in our building. As a result we can here our downstairs neighbours talking (mostly indistinctly) whenever we are both in our living rooms but if they are drinking we can hear whole conversations.

I have something like that too! I was actually keenly interested in their private tete a tetes lol (and my DH wasn't interested but was subject to every distinct word somehow being amplified in our flat anyway) until one day I realised it probably goes both ways too...

Beesevenoaks · 23/04/2024 18:04

Agree keep a diary

catonmyback · 23/04/2024 18:13

Did they suggest that you communicate via mime instead?

Jennyjen92 · 23/04/2024 18:21

Not a chance in the world lol me and my bf sometimes stay up watching Films/ series while ours son is in bed sometimes until 1 am it’s some of our only alone time you pay your rent you can do what the hell you like who are they to set demands ok within reason but not allowed to talk I would laugh and walk away or just outright blank them

bobster31 · 23/04/2024 18:28

Stop talking at 9.45pm as that's when you start to listen to your thrash metal, do the hoovering and let the kids do their violin/recorder/drum practice instead.

ILoveEYFS · 23/04/2024 18:46

Absolutely I would stop talking at 9.45 providing they don't start talking until 8am 😁

LlynTegid · 23/04/2024 18:49

If I sounded a car reversing horn at 945pm it would be annoying. If I did at 6am it would be an offence, unless the law has changed since I took my driving test.

My sympathy for your neighbours went when you noted they get up at 6am and are not silent.

JustAnotherManicMomday · 23/04/2024 18:52

I would tell them if they want you to stop speaking after 9.45 you hope they apply the same rule to them before a time of your choosing.

MMAS · 23/04/2024 19:20

So the logical thing would be to see how both properties can mitigate the problem which is obviously shared. Do you both own or does one rent. Their request is not unreasonable albeit wording could be better. If you are renting, then speak to the Landlord. If you have just bought then I would go back to your solicitor for a track record on complaints from neighbours.

easilydistracted1 · 23/04/2024 19:27

amusedbush · 23/04/2024 08:54

No dropping things? They would have been shit out of luck if I'd lived above them!

I'm wildly dyspraxic and there isn't a thing in my house that hasn't been accidentally dropped, kicked over, or slapped to the floor as I've tried to grab it😂

I am the clumsiest person and probably have undiagnosed ADHD. Luckily noone where we are now complains my wife is autistic and she a disc condition and osteoarthritis and her physio suggested she's dyspraxic too. Last time she tried to have a reorganise she broke two toes!

Topseyt123 · 23/04/2024 19:30

That would have been met with a firm "bugger off" from me. 🙄

Your neighbours sound like arses.

Retiredfromearlyyears · 23/04/2024 20:03

I love La Mariposa's idea!!! Give them something to complain about!

Hmm1234 · 23/04/2024 20:39

DoingTheMumThing101 · 22/04/2024 16:31

We live in a shared townhouse and the couple downstairs have asked that my partner & I stop talking at 9:45 pm in the evening because they can hear us? We have only been living here for 1 week and get the kids to bed early, we are then woken up by them below speaking at 6am. AIBU?

I think you need to be more conscious of the noise you’re making above them. I live in a ground floor flat neighbours above are a nightmare with noise including child running around stomping on the living room. I expect by 10pm you should try and keep noise levels down isn’t that ‘down time’ for a family with work school/nursery etc. 6am is completely normal to expect families to be awake.

cerisepanther73 · 23/04/2024 20:55

@Hmm1234

There's a world of difference between Kids stomping on floor running around etc,

What a ridiculous stupid Comparison to make, 🙄

Comparing that to unreasonable demand of @DoingTheMumThing101 next door neighbour,!

Talking comes under normal every day sounds,
Such as flushing the toilet etc,

Sounds like kind of unreasonable next neighbours and such thin walls in accommodation in which if someone breaks 🤔 wind farts,🤢☠️
(every day noise),
it would get heard of or they would Complain and knock on the wall...

Hmm1234 · 23/04/2024 20:59

cerisepanther73 · 23/04/2024 20:55

@Hmm1234

There's a world of difference between Kids stomping on floor running around etc,

What a ridiculous stupid Comparison to make, 🙄

Comparing that to unreasonable demand of @DoingTheMumThing101 next door neighbour,!

Talking comes under normal every day sounds,
Such as flushing the toilet etc,

Sounds like kind of unreasonable next neighbours and such thin walls in accommodation in which if someone breaks 🤔 wind farts,🤢☠️
(every day noise),
it would get heard of or they would Complain and knock on the wall...

Erm I believe they are SHOUTING near 10pm not talking like OP claims. You need to stop being ridiculous or are you another noisy bad neighbour :)

HighHedges · 23/04/2024 21:10

Suggest they look for a reasonably priced bungalow far from civilization.