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AIBU to not fund ex-partner’s children?

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3LemonsAndLime · 19/04/2024 10:29

I have just ended things with my partner (ExDP). We have lived together for several years, no children. He has 2 tween children from a previous relationship (I have none). He is a good father, contributes jointly to children’s fees and items for them and general costs as well as pays maintenance above CMS and has them regularly. The co-parenting relationship with his ex is positive.

The issues is, I am a high earner, I earn over 3x my ex-DP’s income. He still earns a very good wage, well above average. In making the decision to move in together, I wanted to be sure to guard my financial position, and so I alone pay my mortgage, and all house maintenance related bills. ExDP and I contributed an equal amount to the ‘normal’ bills account (not proportionate to income). I also paid for most ‘extra’ things, like holidays, entertainment/meals out, usually on the basis that I was the one who mainly organised/booked it, so it was easier to pay, and obviously I could afford it. When out for things we would pay for things alternatively as the bill came up - he would pay for petrol in the car on the way to dinner, I would pay at the restaurant. It was never planned, just the person closest at each one would pay.

If asked, I would have said that he was on a ‘good deal’ with me, as obviously he had no rent or mortgage to pay, half of bills and me paying for the more expensive parts of our life - furniture, holidays and things as above. But I always felt like I was paying for some of those things to ensure no messy ownership issues (house, furniture etc) and he earnt less than me and had children who deserved his money, so it was right that I subsidise our life abit more.

The relationship has been difficult lately, mainly around his children and their attitude to me. (I am not the other woman, and he had been in another 2 year relationship before me). It started well, but has gotten disrespectful, and moved to rude and in recent months is now in the hurtful and toxic stage. My ex-DP has tried many strategies, I have bent over backwards, but after a recent issue time in my own life, have made the difficult decision that I don’t want to live like this anymore, and ended things with ex-DP yesterday.

This obviously involves him moving out, and he will have more expenses.

However he and his ex-wife are now furious with me, as apparently decisions were made about their children’s after-school activities and choice of school that necessitated him having the disposable income he did (that is, that he was with someone who covered more expenses and lifestyle costs, so he had a good standard of living whilst still having a lot of money to pay towards to his kids).

ExDP is furious that I am putting his children’s schooling at risk, jeapodising his contact time (he used to have them here, in my home, which is nice - now it will have to be at his parents, where they can’t stay overnight, until he gets a place of his own, the cost and standard of which he is also concerned about). He says a school trip for one would never have been agreed to if he knew his current financial circumstances and another will have to stop a hobby/sport as again, he can’t afford it. It is an expensive sport, to be fair.

All these decisions were made between exDP and his ex-wife. I was not consulted and didn’t think much of them. If I thought at all, it would have been to assume their parents would have made the decisions after considering their own financial circumstances.

My ex is not clear in what he wants/expects from me - just wanting to rant at me or I’m not sure if he means we should stay together (or just live together, but not be together?) so he can keep financing this, or if he intends to ask for money. I am trying to get my thoughts in order, as I just did not see this coming - AIBU here to break up with exDP and not expect a financial obligation to children that are not mine?

OP posts:
thirdfiddle · 20/04/2024 13:34

OP, he's made it perfectly clear he just wants to meet up to bully you. Into giving it another chance, into feeling some responsibility for HIS children, bluntly into giving him money. He's made it perfectly clear he's not respecting your boundaries by turning up early, bringing flowers, bringing kids. He made it perfectly clear by not taking your earlier conversations about the issues seriously until you literally broke up with him. He's not going to respect your boundaries if you meet this afternoon either.

If you were breaking up with an adult, maybe, having a conversation would be the mature way to go. As it is, he's just looking for a chance to try to browbeat you. He'll do his best to make you feel like shit if you manage to stand up to him, and even more so if you give in on any points.

--- ETA apologies, hadn't seen your update. Sorry you had to go through that, but at least you will be able to move on with no regrets about dumping the selfish git.

dandeliondandy · 20/04/2024 13:35

Mirabai · 20/04/2024 13:13

We don’t know he hadn’t set some aside, but he will need that to put down a rental deposit.

How many women with kids find new partners who are higher earners? Many. How many women then make financial decisions based on their new circs with a double income? Many.

What he did was not necessarily wise but it’s very common. There are women doing it on here all the time.

As parents, nobody should be relying on unrelated adults to act as sugar daddy or sugar mummy for their offspring. As a parent, you cover your children's basic needs and anything above that is a bonus.

The children aren't babies and guess what? Life happens and they can't be shielded from everything and if they can be then that is up to their father and mother NOT a girlfriend or boyfriend!

These children and their parents should have treated the goose that laid the golden egg a little better if they had wanted their charmed life to continue.. There are consequences for actions and it is a life lesson that can never be learned too soon.

OP has absolutely nothing to reproach herself for.

Mirabai · 20/04/2024 13:35

diddl · 20/04/2024 13:26

Well what has the Op done that has impacted the kids?

She has broken up with their dad who they see EOW.

Consequently they will still be seeing him EOW but not staying over.

Really? If your new partner helped your kids decorate their new rooms in his house and set them up. Welcomed them into his house. Then dumped after a year without a goodbye you think that wouldn’t impact your kids???

Iaskedyouthrice · 20/04/2024 13:37

Good for you OP, onwards and upwards 💐

murasaki · 20/04/2024 13:38

Well done. Take care of yourself this weekend. Its ok to feel sad and angry at the same time, be gentle to yourself.

Although I'd suggest wine and a takeaway with your sister tonight!

FinallyHere · 20/04/2024 13:40

it really does show how precarious it can be for the lower-earning unmarried partner when the higher earner keeps everything in their name

Sharing income is only really relevant where the lower earning partner 's earning power is impacted by their parental responsibilities for shared children and the higher earning partner's income is not impacted in that way exactly because they have a partner to do it all

Cosmosforbreakfast · 20/04/2024 13:40

Thanks for the update OP. He tried to bully you, guilt you, emotionally blackmail you etc etc etc, good on you for staying strong, being firm it was finished and then walking away from him. Block him now, go completely non contact and move on with your life, you deserve every happiness.

Pinkdelight3 · 20/04/2024 13:41

He didn’t like this, and ask for a lump sum of money, in lieu of a notice period. This being to cover the costs of setting him up and immediate big bills (I think the school fees installment and final payment for the trip).

Jesus, he is cold. In a way, at least it gave you the push needed to not pay him. How fucking dare he? As if you owe him any money after all he's saved on rent and everything else you've funded! And he doesn't even appreciate it, just thinks you owe him more. Outrageous. I'm so sorry this has been so hurtful, but you are very, very well rid of him and have handled it as well as can be. You and your sister have been exemplary and he and his ex-w have not. Take care of yourself, take time and look to a better future without him leeching off you.

everydaywonderful · 20/04/2024 13:41

well done @3LemonsAndLime I am so glad to hear you stayed strong and did not let him manipulate you. You have done exactly the right thing, refusing his request for money, or for further contact

dapsnotplimsolls · 20/04/2024 13:41

I haven't RTFT, just your updates OP. In terms of a payment, on balance, I would be tempted to make a one-off payment to him due to the suddenness of your decision, which hasn't given him time to start saving. I suspect that even if you had made it clear that things had to change or you would end it, that things might have improved for a short time but would still have ended up the same.

HollyKnight · 20/04/2024 13:42

It was never "his house". He just lived there. The children were visitors. Maybe that was his and his children mistake here - in thinking they were free to do whatever they wanted now they had their feet under the table. Well, now they'll learn that you can't treat people like shit and expect them to put up with it. He knew he was just a live-in boyfriend, and he knew the OP was unhappy. He just assumed she would continue to put up with being unhappy because of the children. But they're his children. Not hers.

InterIgnis · 20/04/2024 13:43

Well done OP. You genuinely should feel very proud of yourself for knowing your worth and standing up for yourself. Far from lacking mettle, you’ve demonstrated a huge amount of it here in your refusing to be emotionally blackmailed by this man into backing down. You’ve shown a lot of dignity, and self worth here. Allow yourself time to recover from this, but know it’s onwards and upwards from here.

everydaywonderful · 20/04/2024 13:43

Mirabai · 20/04/2024 13:35

Really? If your new partner helped your kids decorate their new rooms in his house and set them up. Welcomed them into his house. Then dumped after a year without a goodbye you think that wouldn’t impact your kids???

No one has to take abuse from their partners kids. I hope it does impact them. They need to learn actions have consequences. There is no excuse for "toxic" and "abusive" behaviour from them to their acting step parent.

no, it is not "normal" - no it is not acceptable, and yes, they have got what they deserve.

cheddercherry · 20/04/2024 13:45

Just to say that having just read this thread in one big go; I wish you all the best. I think you have 100% made the right decision and I think you handled it fairer than most would have with what was levelled at you. (For what it’s worth, any damage to the kids was exacerbate by his choice to repeatedly try and bring them to you after it was done in my opinion).

One day maybe weeks or months from now you’ll be sat doing something mundane like eating a cake in a cafe, or walking in the sunshine and I think you’ll do a deep breath and think yeah, I’m lighter now. You’re sister and BIL are good eggs and I hope happiness finds you again, in the meantime be angry, be sad, be whatever you need to find that peace with it all.

Pinkdelight3 · 20/04/2024 13:45

it really does show how precarious it can be for the lower-earning unmarried partner when the higher earner keeps everything in their name

I don't call it precarious when he's putting his kids in private school and funding fancy school trips etc. He could easily have bought his own property and had a safety net of savings but instead he spunked it with zero thought for his own responsibilities. If the OP hadn't kept everything in her name, he'd have taken her to the cleaners with his selfish asshole entitled attitude. At the very least, I'd hope the DC will see that there's a cost to their lifestyle and that if they want nice things when they grow up, they have to pay for it not expect to get it funded by a rich DP.

TakingAMenopause · 20/04/2024 13:45

Well done OP. I think you've handled it really well. You don't sound like someone with low self-esteem to me at all.

RE: a payment. Your call. I wouldn't, you don't owe it, but if it makes you feel better, do it. In my mind I would frame it as paying him for a notice period.

Good luck. You'll be fine.

BeeCucumber · 20/04/2024 13:45

Well done OP for being brave in a very difficult situation. I for one am very proud of you for handling him head on and finally saying no. That took courage.

SwoopingIsBad · 20/04/2024 13:46

Thanks for the update. I personally don't think you should go to see him. You're not obligated to as you have already made things clear to him that it's ended and why. I bet he has the kids with him if you go to meet him as he sounds very manipulative.

Don't be steamtollered. You're not responsible for financial decisions he has made regarding his children.

pikkumyy77 · 20/04/2024 13:46

Thanks fir the update, OP. You and your lovely sister have done the right thing.

Angelsrose · 20/04/2024 13:46

dapsnotplimsolls · 20/04/2024 13:41

I haven't RTFT, just your updates OP. In terms of a payment, on balance, I would be tempted to make a one-off payment to him due to the suddenness of your decision, which hasn't given him time to start saving. I suspect that even if you had made it clear that things had to change or you would end it, that things might have improved for a short time but would still have ended up the same.

Definitely no payment and the op has refused this outrageous request. The ex-DP had lots of disposable income due to the op so should have been saving up. I don't understand people who are saying a woman who has been dating a man for 3 years owes him anything financially when she has been bankrolling him all this time. It sounds like madness and from reading many mumsnet threads, something a man just wouldn't do!

Aishah231 · 20/04/2024 13:47

I'm still puzzled as to why he needs that lump sum at all. He's moved in with his parents so still has minimal outgoings. He was clearly trying to get as much as he could out of you at that meeting OP. Well done for getting through it. You sound lovely although as others have said a bit naive and he took advantage of that.

InsolentNoise · 20/04/2024 13:47

Before this thread closes, I have read your update and I really think you are AMAZING.

Enjoy your own space now and get a wee glass of wine or cup of tea to relax with.

Kudos to your sis and BIL, too.

Wishing you all the best, @3LemonsAndLime

myrtleWilson · 20/04/2024 13:48

Well done OP - take some time to recover now

Mirabai · 20/04/2024 13:48

everydaywonderful · 20/04/2024 13:43

No one has to take abuse from their partners kids. I hope it does impact them. They need to learn actions have consequences. There is no excuse for "toxic" and "abusive" behaviour from them to their acting step parent.

no, it is not "normal" - no it is not acceptable, and yes, they have got what they deserve.

OP never said anything about abuse.

ArcaneWireless · 20/04/2024 13:48

You are the mistress of your own destiny so good for you OP.

It is high time that the manipulative people of this world realised that other humans are not obliged to be their support animals.

We are not responsible for the inadequacies of others.

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