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AIBU to not fund ex-partner’s children?

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3LemonsAndLime · 19/04/2024 10:29

I have just ended things with my partner (ExDP). We have lived together for several years, no children. He has 2 tween children from a previous relationship (I have none). He is a good father, contributes jointly to children’s fees and items for them and general costs as well as pays maintenance above CMS and has them regularly. The co-parenting relationship with his ex is positive.

The issues is, I am a high earner, I earn over 3x my ex-DP’s income. He still earns a very good wage, well above average. In making the decision to move in together, I wanted to be sure to guard my financial position, and so I alone pay my mortgage, and all house maintenance related bills. ExDP and I contributed an equal amount to the ‘normal’ bills account (not proportionate to income). I also paid for most ‘extra’ things, like holidays, entertainment/meals out, usually on the basis that I was the one who mainly organised/booked it, so it was easier to pay, and obviously I could afford it. When out for things we would pay for things alternatively as the bill came up - he would pay for petrol in the car on the way to dinner, I would pay at the restaurant. It was never planned, just the person closest at each one would pay.

If asked, I would have said that he was on a ‘good deal’ with me, as obviously he had no rent or mortgage to pay, half of bills and me paying for the more expensive parts of our life - furniture, holidays and things as above. But I always felt like I was paying for some of those things to ensure no messy ownership issues (house, furniture etc) and he earnt less than me and had children who deserved his money, so it was right that I subsidise our life abit more.

The relationship has been difficult lately, mainly around his children and their attitude to me. (I am not the other woman, and he had been in another 2 year relationship before me). It started well, but has gotten disrespectful, and moved to rude and in recent months is now in the hurtful and toxic stage. My ex-DP has tried many strategies, I have bent over backwards, but after a recent issue time in my own life, have made the difficult decision that I don’t want to live like this anymore, and ended things with ex-DP yesterday.

This obviously involves him moving out, and he will have more expenses.

However he and his ex-wife are now furious with me, as apparently decisions were made about their children’s after-school activities and choice of school that necessitated him having the disposable income he did (that is, that he was with someone who covered more expenses and lifestyle costs, so he had a good standard of living whilst still having a lot of money to pay towards to his kids).

ExDP is furious that I am putting his children’s schooling at risk, jeapodising his contact time (he used to have them here, in my home, which is nice - now it will have to be at his parents, where they can’t stay overnight, until he gets a place of his own, the cost and standard of which he is also concerned about). He says a school trip for one would never have been agreed to if he knew his current financial circumstances and another will have to stop a hobby/sport as again, he can’t afford it. It is an expensive sport, to be fair.

All these decisions were made between exDP and his ex-wife. I was not consulted and didn’t think much of them. If I thought at all, it would have been to assume their parents would have made the decisions after considering their own financial circumstances.

My ex is not clear in what he wants/expects from me - just wanting to rant at me or I’m not sure if he means we should stay together (or just live together, but not be together?) so he can keep financing this, or if he intends to ask for money. I am trying to get my thoughts in order, as I just did not see this coming - AIBU here to break up with exDP and not expect a financial obligation to children that are not mine?

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MrsDrDear · 19/04/2024 11:10

The way he has responded would confirm I'd totally made the right decision.

The man has no pride. What a turn off.

Crumpleton · 19/04/2024 11:11

There's no way I'd want to stay connected to anyone that was making plans with their Ex based on me subbing a life style for their joint DC whilst knowing nothing about it.

He wants to come and collect them on the weekend with the children, I think to guilt trip
me.

He can bring his DC but it's not a necessity that they're there, you don't have to let them in.
That's your choice if you do so.

Just ask him to message when he's on his way, put his items on the doorstep and stay indoors, no need to even open the door.

The only thing I probably would do is video him walking away with his items just incase he's the type that lies about you returning them to him.

dreadisabaddog · 19/04/2024 11:11

OP, you're clearly a sensible woman. If situations were reversed and you'd moved into his and had no rent/ mortgage dor the last few years you'd have saved that money for just in case, right? Not splurged it on treats for your kids because you had the cash, well perhaps the odd treat but...

This is not your problem. They're not your children to worry about and neither is he. Stay strong and big hugs

rightoguvnor · 19/04/2024 11:12

Hold fast.
He doesn't seem terribly upset that YOU won't be in his life any more, but he certainly is upset that your money and your house won't be.
The pair of them had no right making decisions that your finances had a bearing on without full and open consultation with you, the banker. And if they had reined in their children's behaviour at 'annoying tween' stage rather than 'hurtful and toxic' the relationship might have been salvageable.
Thank the heavens you won't be dealing with actual hurtful and toxic teenagers and young adults.

Bumblebeestiltskin · 19/04/2024 11:12

PhoenixReincarnated · 19/04/2024 11:04

Have it all packed up in boxes/bin bags if necessary. Get him to text you when he's on his way and put it on the doorstep shortly before you expect him to arrive. You don't have to see/speak to any of them. You owe them nothing.

This. Absolutely don't engage with his weird manipulative behaviour.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 19/04/2024 11:13

he wants to guilt trip you by bringing the children,

the children will either apologise for their behaviour in the hope / expectation you will be sorry for them and pay out

or they will cry in the hope / expectation you will feel sorry for them and pay out

either pack his things and take them to his parents' home tonight, during today would be better if you are not in an office at work ? or this evening if you don't have personal plans ?

or make sure the belongings are packed and outside your home in the morning, as near to the front gate as possible - so only he needs to pop out the car and put his stuff into the boot.

does he have keys ? if so you might want to get the locks changed asap.

HebburnPokemon · 19/04/2024 11:13

after a very bad weekend with the children

What happened? How old are they?

HelenTudorFisk · 19/04/2024 11:14

The way you have spoken of him and the children is so balanced and caring - you deserve far better than this selfish turd of a man. How dare he (and his ex) try and make you responsible for their lack of consideration and poor decision making?
You are 100% not unreasonable. Cut him properly loose.

raspberryberet7 · 19/04/2024 11:15

loveroflentils · 19/04/2024 10:33

op come on

surely you know you’re not being unreasonable.

Just shake your head and cut contact 🤷

First post nailed it again.

Don't be ridiculous op. He should've thought about all of this when he had kids. They're his not yours. Walk away. And block. Congratulations on your freedom and good luck for the future xxx

Pheasantsmate · 19/04/2024 11:16

I value education and feel upset he is implying I am actively hurting his children’s schooling.

The best life lesson him and his kids can learn is you don’t get to be disrespectful, nasty and unpleasant and have someone else continue to bankroll you. I’m sure these kids have got what they wanted in you breaking up with their dad. They should understand that they can’t have it all ways- the nice life you provide and you not in the picture.

I think we can agree school trips are just jollies though- you aren’t hurting their education in anyway shape or form.

Betterbuckleupbarbara · 19/04/2024 11:16

They are treating you appallingly OP, you need to protect yourself at all costs from these people.

Cut all ties asap, and have someone there if he insists on coming over.

Stat strong, and don’t feel guilty for ending it, his children are not your financial responsibility.

EmilyTjP · 19/04/2024 11:16

I can’t believe some of the things I read on here! YANBU at all.
Maybe now his children will learn that actions have consequences.
It’s not up to you to support this family.

EmilyTjP · 19/04/2024 11:17

Pheasantsmate · 19/04/2024 11:16

I value education and feel upset he is implying I am actively hurting his children’s schooling.

The best life lesson him and his kids can learn is you don’t get to be disrespectful, nasty and unpleasant and have someone else continue to bankroll you. I’m sure these kids have got what they wanted in you breaking up with their dad. They should understand that they can’t have it all ways- the nice life you provide and you not in the picture.

I think we can agree school trips are just jollies though- you aren’t hurting their education in anyway shape or form.

Absolutely this.
Why should they have the best in life and get to treat you like shit?!

LemonyFace · 19/04/2024 11:18

To whichever PP said "can you not pay for the school trip as a compromise"..... in the words of my mother... Are you out of your ever loving mind??????

@3LemonsAndLime this is shit, but his and ExW's attitudes only go to show that they valued your money more than you - I'm sorry to say that, but it rings big alarm bells.
I agree with PPs, don't let him and DC into your house - pack up his stuff and leave it outside to be collected. Or if not possible, go out and arrange to have a friend there to let him in and out.
Take care, you sound like a really lovely generous person 💐💐

WildFlowerBees · 19/04/2024 11:19

He's not angry for his kids, he's angry that is cushy lifestyle based on your financial support is no longer. Rather than wasting his energies he'd be better off looking at ways to support his children. This is not your mess to clear up. Block him and get on with your freedom!

3LemonsAndLime · 19/04/2024 11:20

He wants to bring the children as they have some stuff in the rooms they have here in my house and they need to collect it. He says we could all sit down and talk when they do

Bringing the children to collect things seems awful to me, as a parent wouldn’t you collect it for your children rather than have them pack and it be awkward and emotional? I am happy for them to have everything in their rooms - not just the books, clothes and personal stuff they kept here, but even the stuff I paid for - furniture and bedding etc - , however I know he won’t have space for it yet until he rents a place. I DO NOT want to ‘hold’ it for him. I just want this over.

I am going to ask my sister to be here tomorrow instead of me. I think seeing the children will make it worse. And I don’t like the idea of the talk. It seems to be a way to kind of wiggle back into being here and resuming things

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Mothership4two · 19/04/2024 11:20

OP remember to change the locks

HebburnPokemon · 19/04/2024 11:20

paintingvenice · 19/04/2024 11:08

Why on earth do the kids need to come to collect stuff? I’d be tempted to tell him not to bother and just book someone through Anyvan and send his stuff to him. Money well spent. Sounds like a nasty manipulative dickhead.

This is an excellent idea

BIossomtoes · 19/04/2024 11:21

3LemonsAndLime · 19/04/2024 11:20

He wants to bring the children as they have some stuff in the rooms they have here in my house and they need to collect it. He says we could all sit down and talk when they do

Bringing the children to collect things seems awful to me, as a parent wouldn’t you collect it for your children rather than have them pack and it be awkward and emotional? I am happy for them to have everything in their rooms - not just the books, clothes and personal stuff they kept here, but even the stuff I paid for - furniture and bedding etc - , however I know he won’t have space for it yet until he rents a place. I DO NOT want to ‘hold’ it for him. I just want this over.

I am going to ask my sister to be here tomorrow instead of me. I think seeing the children will make it worse. And I don’t like the idea of the talk. It seems to be a way to kind of wiggle back into being here and resuming things

Spot on. You’re doing absolutely the right thing.

Bourbanbiscuit · 19/04/2024 11:21

You are teaching his kids a good life lesson, 'don't bite the hand that feeds you', leave his stuff at the door and change the locks.
Sending love op x

EG94 · 19/04/2024 11:22

No 100% not your problem mate. Sounds like his precious children have been little shits to you so why you should now have an outpouring of guilt for people who disrespect you is beyond me.

if it helps, I’m in a similar situation. My house owned by me. I pay the mortgage and responsible for all up keep / Reno costs. My partner pays £500 a month in clouding bills and food to live in a 3 bed semi with parking and things he has a bad deal. Oh how I laughed and laughed. He can move out and find out if he wants. I used to fund his children until he made a comment about not paying house insurance as he didn’t choose to have a house. I replied with I won’t be paying for your kids as I didn’t choose to have them. His kids are missing out as a result but I don’t care tbh! His kids his problem. My money is better spent on my home than his ungrateful children.

stop feeling guilty. Make it clear I am sorry your children will suffer as a result of our breakup but I’m really sorry this is not my concern and I would appreciate if you didn’t lay you child finance problems at my door. If you continue to do so, I will have no other option but to block you.

be firm, be clear and enjoy your new life, I’m envious!

susanjones133 · 19/04/2024 11:22

Pack their stuff and drop the boxes quickly at his parents house. If he comes to yours, he will try to manipulate you to change your mind and you are not going to feel well about it ..

PinkArt · 19/04/2024 11:22

He needs to grow the fuck up. He was leeching off his parents, then you, and now back to his parents. At some point he has to take responsibility for housing and financially supporting his children himself. Several years of no rent or mortgage should have seen him built a decent savings pot, if he wasn't just treating you as a cash machine.
If the break up was purely to do with issues between the two of you, and nothing to do with the kids, I might have said it would be nice to do something for them as innocent parties in it all. Given their behaviour is (or was, before he showed his hand) the main factor though then you owe them nothing. Yes they're kids, yes they are not responsible for adult relationships, but don't reward bad behaviour.

Emmylou22 · 19/04/2024 11:22

"To imply I am now actively hurting them in a way that will impact their whole lives is very upsetting."

This is exactly why he's saying these things. He's trying to hurt you. People's financial situations change all the time and they have to adjust their outgoings accordingly. It's a good life lesson for the kids. Particularly given how unpleasant they've been to you - I wouldn't feel guilty at all!!

He's had no rent to pay for several years (because of your financial position and kindness) and he's now got a nerve to expect you to financial subsidise his life further. His ex partner is entitled to feel frustrated her kids are affected but she shouldn't be taking it out on you.

Try and set your guilt aside. You did what was best for your own wellbeing. Your ex and his ex are responsible for the kids, not you.

MILTOBE · 19/04/2024 11:23

If his ex is going away this weekend then he can stay at her house.

Given he wasn't paying any rent or mortgage, he should have been able to save quite a bit. Either he has and doesn't want you to know about that, or he hasn't because money trickles through his fingers.

Is he paying private school fees? It sounds as though he's broke - why would he be doing that? Private high school fees are a lot more, so he'd have been even worse off.

I don't think you owe him anything at all. He had a really good deal and couldn't even get his children to be nice to you.

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