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AIBU to not fund ex-partner’s children?

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3LemonsAndLime · 19/04/2024 10:29

I have just ended things with my partner (ExDP). We have lived together for several years, no children. He has 2 tween children from a previous relationship (I have none). He is a good father, contributes jointly to children’s fees and items for them and general costs as well as pays maintenance above CMS and has them regularly. The co-parenting relationship with his ex is positive.

The issues is, I am a high earner, I earn over 3x my ex-DP’s income. He still earns a very good wage, well above average. In making the decision to move in together, I wanted to be sure to guard my financial position, and so I alone pay my mortgage, and all house maintenance related bills. ExDP and I contributed an equal amount to the ‘normal’ bills account (not proportionate to income). I also paid for most ‘extra’ things, like holidays, entertainment/meals out, usually on the basis that I was the one who mainly organised/booked it, so it was easier to pay, and obviously I could afford it. When out for things we would pay for things alternatively as the bill came up - he would pay for petrol in the car on the way to dinner, I would pay at the restaurant. It was never planned, just the person closest at each one would pay.

If asked, I would have said that he was on a ‘good deal’ with me, as obviously he had no rent or mortgage to pay, half of bills and me paying for the more expensive parts of our life - furniture, holidays and things as above. But I always felt like I was paying for some of those things to ensure no messy ownership issues (house, furniture etc) and he earnt less than me and had children who deserved his money, so it was right that I subsidise our life abit more.

The relationship has been difficult lately, mainly around his children and their attitude to me. (I am not the other woman, and he had been in another 2 year relationship before me). It started well, but has gotten disrespectful, and moved to rude and in recent months is now in the hurtful and toxic stage. My ex-DP has tried many strategies, I have bent over backwards, but after a recent issue time in my own life, have made the difficult decision that I don’t want to live like this anymore, and ended things with ex-DP yesterday.

This obviously involves him moving out, and he will have more expenses.

However he and his ex-wife are now furious with me, as apparently decisions were made about their children’s after-school activities and choice of school that necessitated him having the disposable income he did (that is, that he was with someone who covered more expenses and lifestyle costs, so he had a good standard of living whilst still having a lot of money to pay towards to his kids).

ExDP is furious that I am putting his children’s schooling at risk, jeapodising his contact time (he used to have them here, in my home, which is nice - now it will have to be at his parents, where they can’t stay overnight, until he gets a place of his own, the cost and standard of which he is also concerned about). He says a school trip for one would never have been agreed to if he knew his current financial circumstances and another will have to stop a hobby/sport as again, he can’t afford it. It is an expensive sport, to be fair.

All these decisions were made between exDP and his ex-wife. I was not consulted and didn’t think much of them. If I thought at all, it would have been to assume their parents would have made the decisions after considering their own financial circumstances.

My ex is not clear in what he wants/expects from me - just wanting to rant at me or I’m not sure if he means we should stay together (or just live together, but not be together?) so he can keep financing this, or if he intends to ask for money. I am trying to get my thoughts in order, as I just did not see this coming - AIBU here to break up with exDP and not expect a financial obligation to children that are not mine?

OP posts:
frecklejuice · 19/04/2024 11:43

The kids were arseholes to you in your own home and he couldn't stop them or teach them how to behave respectfully so you have ended the relationship which is exactly what you should have done, you have zero responsibility to those children financially or otherwise so please don't feel guilty.

Don't tell him your sister will be there instead of you just let them turn up get their stuff and go then have no further contact. One day his kids will be grown up and have their own lives and he will realise that they ruined his chance of having an amazing relationship with you.

The kids are his and his ex wife's to pay for and deal with not yours!!

Haydenn · 19/04/2024 11:43

He probably will say it’s too soon and he can’t commit to a date/location,

storage lockers don’t move. If he wants it if course he can.

Mix56 · 19/04/2024 11:45

Well if the financial hit is upsetting the equilibrium over the DC.
The joint parents can cohabit in the wife's house...
You are not their bank.
The children have pushed you to this, let them come & empty their rooms. Perhaps they will learn that you dont bite the hand that feeds you.

BruceAndNosh · 19/04/2024 11:46

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thecoffeewasthething · 19/04/2024 11:47

You're being very nice about this, nicer than the ex and his ex deserve, frankly. I wouldn't let him into the house at all, just pack up the kids' things and let them all sort through it in their own time. It should be a five minute collection situation only. In fact, if the weather is reasonable and you have a set time he's coming round, I'd just put it outside and tell him to collect it on the doorstep.

MyWhoHa · 19/04/2024 11:47

Pack up as much of the children's stuff as possible as well. Please stand firm OP, you owe this man and his poisonous offspring nothing.

Herdingcatz · 19/04/2024 11:49

stardustbiscuits · 19/04/2024 11:41

I’m not sure given your update that I agree with everyone’s responses. Moving in with children is a huge commitment, and it wasn’t u reasonable for the parents to make financial decisions based on the disposable income they both had in those circumstances. Ending that relationship, removing the children’s home and significantly altering their circumstances with no proper discussion or warning was harsh. That doesn’t mean you don’t ‘have the right’, of course you do, but it’s not fair and reasonable and it’s obviously come as a shock. Being a stepparent to tweenagers was never going to be easy. You mentioned that you thought ‘you were a little family’ … well it doesn’t appear that way.

My daughter is 11 and very challenging! It’s not just step parents who suffer that … families stick together and certainly talk things through at length before making big decisions.

It is a huge commitment, and one that it sounds like OP took incredibly seriously and diligently. But no one has to put up with people making their life a misery, and quite frankly if the kid’s parents split up why on earth should the OP be showing more commitment?

People’s disposable income changes all the time and families make adjustments. It’s just what they do. His mistake was making financial commitments based on another adult bankrolling him. What he should have done is saved the money he wasn’t spending by living with OP to build some future security for his family and then cut his cloth accordingly. Not started living the highlife because someone with no obligation was picking up his and his kids bills.

VJBR · 19/04/2024 11:49

3LemonsAndLime · 19/04/2024 11:00

At first I thought we could be friends/civil, as the relationship ending wasn’t an issue between us, but more the children’s impact on me and our relationship. He tried to address it, but it didn’t work and of course he and the children come and a package. I thought it over and just couldn’t put myself through it anymore. I probably should have discussed it more with him. He knew I was upset and worn down by it, but I didn’t say ‘I am thinking of ending things’. Perhaps if I had he might have been making better decisions re family and finances.

I would like to cut contact now, but he still has some clothes and personal items here he needs to collect. He wants to come and collect them on the weekend with the children, I think to guilt trip
me.

Goodness. Do not allow that. Bag up his things and go out for the day. Leave them on the doorstep. Please do not allow this man and his children to emotionally blackmail you. They are not your responsibility. Be strong.

CloudyYellow · 19/04/2024 11:50

Sorry this has happened. They all sound really unpleasant. Make a list of what you have packed up for them to take tomorrow just in case.

Iaskedyouthrice · 19/04/2024 11:53

With the best will in the world @3LemonsAndLime you would be surprised at how comfortable people get using your money. Even people that love you. You have subsidised this entire family, including the ex wife for a long long time. No more. Of course they are both upset/angry. Their gravy train has ended.

VJBR · 19/04/2024 11:53

Good idea having your sister there.

Grumppy · 19/04/2024 11:53

And get your keys back/change the locks

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 19/04/2024 11:54

These children have family members who are responsible for them. They have parents and grandparents and between those, their needs should be covered.

I wouldn't, in your situation, pay anything for these children. It is their own poor manners and behaviour towards you that has fast-tracked the breakup. That is on them and they should take their lesson that treating people badly has consequences that they might not like.

Hold firm. You've already paid for so much, directly and indirectly. The gravy train has reached the station and is going no further. Cut contact and make it final. Flowers

Whatineed · 19/04/2024 11:55

That's absolutely batshit. I'm almost speechless at the CF.

Perhaps knowing what aspirations they had for their kids would be sacrificed without the "bank of girlfriend" to fund them should have driven them both to ensure that their children were more respectful of you.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 19/04/2024 11:55

I hadn't seen Iaskedyouthrice's post but she that she's also referred to the gravy train. That is exactly what it is.

DelurkingLawyer · 19/04/2024 11:55

Tough shit for your exDP and for the kids.

I am sure this was a genuine relationship and not transactional from his perspective, but that can be true at the same time as him becoming complacent, taking you for granted and being far too willing to let you pick up the tab for his responsibilities. His biggest failure by far, though, was letting his kids behave as they did towards you, not just because you were funding their lifestyle, but because as a matter of basic respect they should not be allowed to treat you badly.

As for the kids - struggling to find sympathy for them. At 10 or 11 they probably didn’t give a second’s thought to how much you funded their nice lifestyle. But they’re old enough to learn that their behaviour has consequences, including ones they didn’t think about.

Also, they won’t change. You might get some whining apology now it’s been borne in on them that their behaviour was a direct cause of not going on the school trip abroad. But they’ll just see you as a cash cow from here on, and that won’t improve behaviour long term. It’s just teaching them that being a CF pays.

EG94 · 19/04/2024 11:55

@3LemonsAndLime a lot of people are suggesting letting your sister do this handover. Given the unreasonable behaviour he has already shown is there a concern that when you are not there, this is why is coming nothing to do with stuff he will become agitated? Is it fair to put that on your sister? I would risk it, for years you didn’t think he was financially using you. My point is you never know what anyone is capable of. I would either drop it to his parents or I would dispose of it. I wouldn’t allow him back to your house with or without you there. Just a thought

IncompleteSenten · 19/04/2024 11:57

I'm surprised that 1% think you are being unreasonable!

It is batcrap crazy for him and their children's mother to think you owe them any money or ongoing financial support for their children.

It shows that you were their cash cow though.

3LemonsAndLime · 19/04/2024 11:57

lateatwork · 19/04/2024 11:28

The thing is with tweens is that they can be horrible, disrespectful and not very nice- at times. Most parents ride this phase out because they have to. They also have more control too.

You don't. You can walk away if it's pissing you off.

Its also easy to be resentful of time, attention etc put into kids that are awful to you - the person that is providing food and shelter and getting nothing back from it.

If you were a team with your partner, you would have worked harder on anticipating this and working through it together. But it sounds like his attention is elsewhere, and you aren't involved in decision making- so things have fallen over. This isn't the kids per se- it's lack of teamwork.

The impact on the kids will be big. That's not a reason to stay. He is likely to be angry as not only is he losing you (and I get the impression you don't think there is enough focus on this bit) but an immediate impact on his kids.

One other way to interpret this is .. if you aren't nice to me kids, I'll leave your dad and then you really will suffer. I'm sure you don't mean it that way though.

It is what you say in this last paragraph that I think is being leveled at me. I feel that is such a hurtful lense to look at this through, and am very upset that what I saw as kindness and wanting to give him and his children the best of me and a good life together, could be seen as vindictive.

Yes, I also think he is frustrated that he regarded us as a ‘team’ and my decision now leaves him with no emotional support, as well as no financial support. It’s very upsetting to me that he seems to be focusing only on the financial support from our relationship. I’d like to think - I do think - it was more than this to him. I am hoping it is just the shock of the unexpected expenses of his new life that was coming out in his conversation with me today.

In respect of what else you say, I was not involved in the big decisions for his children, they were made between their parents. He did sometimes discuss them with me, more for advice and a sounding board, but ultimately the decisions were made between them both. I respected that, as I thought that was my place.

In my home, despite the financial/legal position, I treated it as ‘our’ home. His children visited EOW, and as there was room, they each had their own rooms and as part of a ‘welcoming’ they each chose paint wall colours and bedding etc to make their rooms their own and to feel welcome.

OP posts:
piscesangel · 19/04/2024 11:57

Huge sympathy OP, it must be very difficult being treated so badly by people you have loved.

On his rants, though, if I were you I would be tempted to fire back with both barrels. How DARE he and ex make financial decisions about their children that include an assumption of your financial input without discussing that with you! He should be ashamed of himself, not throwing it in your face at this difficult time.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 19/04/2024 11:58

He is now taking the piss
and bottling it
and selling it back to you !

Do not allow all these people into YOUR home
pack it for them
and make sure it is outside

you know what is yours and what is his and what is his childrens.

if you allow all these people into your home, then they can damage / destroy / steal.

You have finished with him, that is it, end of.

his disrespectful children do not ever need to enter your property again, they will take the piss out of your sister if she is the only person there,
and they will outstay their welcome as it will take ages for the children to pack and don't count on them arriving with boxes / suitcases to carry it all away with them.

your sister will be outnumbered if you allow all these people into YOUR property and is she able to tell them to leave - what are you going to do if they decide to watch the tv / have dinner / go to bed whilst you are out...

what are you going to do if they all move back in !!!

remember - the children were supposed to be staying at yours as their Mum is going away...

Projectme · 19/04/2024 11:58

Good idea to have your sister there instead of you, if she's prepared to do it. Personally, I'd pack all his and the kids stuff up and leave it by the front door so he/they wouldn't even have to step inside the house again. Make sure you get all the house keys back from them (I note you're changing the locks but get the keys back in the meantime).

I am never surprised at the levels that some individuals will sink to in life. This guy (and his ex) sound grabby and entitled and have a high expectation that you were going to continue funding their own separate lifestyles but also that of their children. I can understand how hurt you must be feeling but with his attitude, it would have killed any further affection I may have had for him, stone dead.

Did they ever stop and think that you could have lost your job at anytime? What then?! Absolutely cheeky fuckers and you are well rid OP.

EG94 · 19/04/2024 12:00

IncompleteSenten · 19/04/2024 11:57

I'm surprised that 1% think you are being unreasonable!

It is batcrap crazy for him and their children's mother to think you owe them any money or ongoing financial support for their children.

It shows that you were their cash cow though.

@IncompleteSenten the 1% is ex wife 😂😂

0sm0nthus · 19/04/2024 12:02

OP, you sound like a very decent, moral, 'do the right thing' sort of person.
Your ex is a grifter, he thinks you are his useful idiot and golden goose rolled into one.
He's frantically pressing every button and pulling every lever that he can to try and emotionally blackmail you back into being his benefactor.
Some version of grey rock will probably be the best approach here.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 19/04/2024 12:03

I hope you will ignore the posters trying to pull at your heartstrings because of the 'tweens'. The relevant pair have behaved abhorrently towards you and their parents are a disgrace in the way they're behaving now.

I completely agree with posters who've cautioned you against allowing ANY of them into your home now. Pack their stuff and put it outside for them to collect. If it's not picked up by X date then it will be binned. Ugh.

You've had a very fortuitous escape, OP, I know it doesn't feel like it at the moment but it really is. You're a sentient person, not a bank. They're the ones who've lost out from having you (not just your money) in their lives, you haven't lost as much as you might feel you have.

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