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AIBU to not fund ex-partner’s children?

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3LemonsAndLime · 19/04/2024 10:29

I have just ended things with my partner (ExDP). We have lived together for several years, no children. He has 2 tween children from a previous relationship (I have none). He is a good father, contributes jointly to children’s fees and items for them and general costs as well as pays maintenance above CMS and has them regularly. The co-parenting relationship with his ex is positive.

The issues is, I am a high earner, I earn over 3x my ex-DP’s income. He still earns a very good wage, well above average. In making the decision to move in together, I wanted to be sure to guard my financial position, and so I alone pay my mortgage, and all house maintenance related bills. ExDP and I contributed an equal amount to the ‘normal’ bills account (not proportionate to income). I also paid for most ‘extra’ things, like holidays, entertainment/meals out, usually on the basis that I was the one who mainly organised/booked it, so it was easier to pay, and obviously I could afford it. When out for things we would pay for things alternatively as the bill came up - he would pay for petrol in the car on the way to dinner, I would pay at the restaurant. It was never planned, just the person closest at each one would pay.

If asked, I would have said that he was on a ‘good deal’ with me, as obviously he had no rent or mortgage to pay, half of bills and me paying for the more expensive parts of our life - furniture, holidays and things as above. But I always felt like I was paying for some of those things to ensure no messy ownership issues (house, furniture etc) and he earnt less than me and had children who deserved his money, so it was right that I subsidise our life abit more.

The relationship has been difficult lately, mainly around his children and their attitude to me. (I am not the other woman, and he had been in another 2 year relationship before me). It started well, but has gotten disrespectful, and moved to rude and in recent months is now in the hurtful and toxic stage. My ex-DP has tried many strategies, I have bent over backwards, but after a recent issue time in my own life, have made the difficult decision that I don’t want to live like this anymore, and ended things with ex-DP yesterday.

This obviously involves him moving out, and he will have more expenses.

However he and his ex-wife are now furious with me, as apparently decisions were made about their children’s after-school activities and choice of school that necessitated him having the disposable income he did (that is, that he was with someone who covered more expenses and lifestyle costs, so he had a good standard of living whilst still having a lot of money to pay towards to his kids).

ExDP is furious that I am putting his children’s schooling at risk, jeapodising his contact time (he used to have them here, in my home, which is nice - now it will have to be at his parents, where they can’t stay overnight, until he gets a place of his own, the cost and standard of which he is also concerned about). He says a school trip for one would never have been agreed to if he knew his current financial circumstances and another will have to stop a hobby/sport as again, he can’t afford it. It is an expensive sport, to be fair.

All these decisions were made between exDP and his ex-wife. I was not consulted and didn’t think much of them. If I thought at all, it would have been to assume their parents would have made the decisions after considering their own financial circumstances.

My ex is not clear in what he wants/expects from me - just wanting to rant at me or I’m not sure if he means we should stay together (or just live together, but not be together?) so he can keep financing this, or if he intends to ask for money. I am trying to get my thoughts in order, as I just did not see this coming - AIBU here to break up with exDP and not expect a financial obligation to children that are not mine?

OP posts:
OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 19/04/2024 11:02

Good grief !

you subsidised him whilst you were together anyway, so he could / should have been saving.

NOT your children NOT your problem / responsibility.

do not offer to pay for the trip !

as they will only want and expect more !!!

SunshineSky81 · 19/04/2024 11:03

say you are away out. Leave them in a safe space.

Dont get involved in this guilt trip horsesh*t

AGlinnerOfHope · 19/04/2024 11:04

Very inappropriate of him to bring the children. Tell him you’ll drop the stuff off.

Reply pointing out that he didn’t ever discuss these additional expenses he chose for the dc. That he made the decision to live at the edge of his income, not you. That he needs to take responsibility for his kids and his life not expect you to sustain him and his indefinitely.

He needs to man up, basically.

thanKyouaIMee · 19/04/2024 11:04

Not your circus not your monkeys! He was onto a fantastic lifestyle with you, however he and his ex wife shouldn't have planned the childrens lives around the contributions of others.

Do not let him come and collect his things with the children. If he even suggests that he is a terrible human using them as pawns in a game, they don't need to witness their dad collecting belongings from your house - it's manipulation at its finest.

buckeejit · 19/04/2024 11:04

Yanbu & he's an idiot for not planning better. If I were him I'd be embarrassed to admit to this never mind putting guilt onto you

PhoenixReincarnated · 19/04/2024 11:04

3LemonsAndLime · 19/04/2024 11:00

At first I thought we could be friends/civil, as the relationship ending wasn’t an issue between us, but more the children’s impact on me and our relationship. He tried to address it, but it didn’t work and of course he and the children come and a package. I thought it over and just couldn’t put myself through it anymore. I probably should have discussed it more with him. He knew I was upset and worn down by it, but I didn’t say ‘I am thinking of ending things’. Perhaps if I had he might have been making better decisions re family and finances.

I would like to cut contact now, but he still has some clothes and personal items here he needs to collect. He wants to come and collect them on the weekend with the children, I think to guilt trip
me.

Have it all packed up in boxes/bin bags if necessary. Get him to text you when he's on his way and put it on the doorstep shortly before you expect him to arrive. You don't have to see/speak to any of them. You owe them nothing.

Youcannotbeseriousreally · 19/04/2024 11:05

PhoenixReincarnated · 19/04/2024 11:04

Have it all packed up in boxes/bin bags if necessary. Get him to text you when he's on his way and put it on the doorstep shortly before you expect him to arrive. You don't have to see/speak to any of them. You owe them nothing.

This. Do not open the door, I can’t believe the guy wants to bring the kids! He really is something!

CosmosQueen · 19/04/2024 11:05

I would like to cut contact now, but he still has some clothes and personal items here he needs to collect. He wants to come and collect them on the weekend with the children, I think to guilt trip me

Tell him his stuff will be outside the front door tonight, then you take yourself out tomorrow. Make sure he doesn’t have a key.
Then block him.

Stressfordays · 19/04/2024 11:06

'shame about all that, I hope you figure it out. I'll leave your things in X space as I'm out most of the weekend'

Don't get drawn into it, it is not your problem. He has leeched off you long enough.

SwingTheMonkey · 19/04/2024 11:06

WhiteLeopard · 19/04/2024 10:35

YANBU at all and they had no right to make financial decisions assuming any input from you (even indirectly). In particular - making a school choice was really stupid of them!

I do have some sympathy about the short term decisions such as the school trip. It's natural to think "yes that should be fine" rather than "but what if Lemons and I split up before the trip?". Maybe as a goodwill gesture you could offer to pay for the trip? But make it clear that this is a one-off and that you are doing it as a nice gesture, not as an expectation.

Do not do this op. It’d confirm their warped ideas that you’re somehow to blame for their financial situation. It’ll never end. Their situation isn’t your problem.

And do not have him come and collect his things over the weekend with the children (who I thought he wasn’t able to see anyway because he hasn’t got anywhere for them to stay..?) Tell him it’s not convenient and that give a time when he can come. Alone. Don’t be afraid to tell him you have no desire to see his children.

Haydenn · 19/04/2024 11:07

I can only think of one response you could send to to your ex “FUCK OFF”

what a cheeky arsehole. Sorry you’re going through this OP. Sometimes you don’t really know someone until you break up with them. What a grubby, money grabbing little prick he is.

MrsDrDear · 19/04/2024 11:07

Very inappropriate of him to bring the children. Tell him you’ll drop the stuff off

This! The kids will be sitting there with a Daily Mail sad face trying to make you feel bad.

At the very least have someone with you who won't allow you to cave in and change your mind.

ItsFuckingBoringFeedingEveryoneUntilYouDie · 19/04/2024 11:07

He should have considered all that when he allows his children to continue treating you in an unacceptable manner.

He has made it very clear that you were only a meal ticket to him, his ex and his kids.

Decline to let him collect his stuff. Pack it up and leave it out. Change the locks, assuming he hasn't left his key, and be out living your life when he comes to collect.

Turquoisa80 · 19/04/2024 11:07

If he's staying at his parents, why cant his child maintenance stay the same. He sou ds awful, please don't let him and his ex guilt trip you. Change the locks and keep busy with your family and friends

kiwiane · 19/04/2024 11:08

I wouldn’t let him come on a pity visit with the children - put his stuff together and leave somewhere for him to collect.
You have been really generous and this is not your circus - the parents can sort things out.

InTheShallowTheShalalalalalalalow · 19/04/2024 11:08

So rather than be grateful for the lifestyle you facilitated, he is blaming you for not continuing to facilitate it when he has been taking the piss for so long?

He should have been putting rent money aside. He also still has the same disposable income for now if he's at his parents.

This is for him and his ex to sort out, they can move in together for their childrens sake to save money rather than expect you to continue in an unhappy situation.

Don't let him come over with the kids this weekend.

I would bag up all of his stuff and drop it at his parents when he's at work, change the locks, and block him on everything.

This isn't your problem to solve.

3LemonsAndLime · 19/04/2024 11:08

Yes, it is a good point that when exDP and his ex wife split I am sure there were negative financial implications for both them and the children, but it still happened.

To those saying they were treating me like
a cash machine, this hurts. I didn’t feel like
a cash machine, I thought we were a little family. I did and paid for the things I did because I could
afford them and I wanted people to be happy. At the start I felt honoured they let me into their little family and their lives. I don’t have children and it felt lovely to be a side part of their lives and be able to do things the enjoyed and made them
smile. To imply I am now actively hurting them in a way that will impact their whole lives is very upsetting.

I think it’s the school one that bothers me the most. I value education and feel upset he is implying I am actively hurting his children’s schooling.

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paintingvenice · 19/04/2024 11:08

Why on earth do the kids need to come to collect stuff? I’d be tempted to tell him not to bother and just book someone through Anyvan and send his stuff to him. Money well spent. Sounds like a nasty manipulative dickhead.

Trickabrick · 19/04/2024 11:09

I’d bag his stuff up and drop it over to prevent any awkwardness and retain the control on your part.

Mothership4two · 19/04/2024 11:09

I would like to cut contact now, but he still has some clothes and personal items here he needs to collect. He wants to come and collect them on the weekend with the children, I think to guilt trip me.

I think that is actually quite sh*tty of him to bring the children. It may be very awkward and probably upsetting for them (and you). He doesn't need to do that, he could get their things.

I'd be pleasant but firm and make sure they take everything so he doesn't have to come back. If they are horrible I would tell them to leave immediately and you will box up anything that's left. Watch for damage.

Edited to say: good idea @paintingvenice and @Trickabrick

LatteLady · 19/04/2024 11:09

Oh OP, you have been very sensible throughout this, however his children and, their life and education are not your responsbility. If he and his ex had still been together, would they have had private schooling, probably not.

Do not allow them to come and visit, just pull together his goods and leave them on the doorstep for him to pick up... none of them need to enter your house again, then block and get on with leading a good life where you are valued for you and not just your bank account.

EyeRolling23 · 19/04/2024 11:09

God @3LemonsAndLime , this is so ridiculous. You are obviously a good person who put in a lot of effort and thought then made the right decision for you when it came to it. You don't owe him, the ex or the kids anything, nor did you owe him a "warning" about wanting to end the relationship (which you would have been slated as an unreasonable ultimatum anyway).
They are both absolutely unreasonable chancers and have no right to put any of this on you. Please don't let him come over at the weekend with the kids, that's bad for both you and them. Bag his stuff up and say he can pick it up one evening next week, or if not too problematic just drop it off to get it off your mind. I'd also be minded to go out over the weekend if I were you in case they turn up,.though as PP said hopefully he will be at his ex's house minding the kids!

Take car, and don't let them make you feel bad for something that is absolutely not your problem or fault.

Farahfawsett · 19/04/2024 11:09

He's a grown man and a father, he should be capable of supporting his own children and putting a roof over their heads.

Surely all the time he's been living with you, not paying rent he's been saving that money up to ensure he can provide a home for himself and his kids if needed; if not, the man is a fool 🙄

Do not let him bring the kids round to yours. Pack up his stuff, leave it in waterproof boxes outside and be out when he turns up for them.

The relationship is over. You have no responsibility to provide for his DC, if he'd wanted his gravy train to continue, he should have patented his children better and made them more live-able with.

Kittenkitty · 19/04/2024 11:10

He could have been saving his mortgage/rent all these years, but instead he’s just happily lived beyond his means safe in the knowledge you’d always be there to pick up the tab. He’s totally unreasonable. My ex husband is looking after our child at mine tonight, it’s not the ideal circumstance but we as parents have to do the best for our kids - nobody else.
I think it’s also really hurtful that a meaningful relationship has ended and instead of sadness and reconciliation it’s just anger that the cash machine isn’t dispensing. Really unpleasant.
Hope you find some peace.

minou123 · 19/04/2024 11:10

@3LemonsAndLime
He is saying the cost of a school trip is now not able to be paid and the child knows they are going, so this will be a big emotional blow to them. Stopping the sport will also be upsetting as the other child has been doing it for awhile, has friends there and is good at it, and they will be very upset about this.

The crazy thing is this happens all the time.
Everyday, all across the UK, many parents have to stop a school trip, hobby/sport for thier children, because their financial situation has changed.

In fact, I bet if you asked here on MN you would get lots of stories of times when parents had to change their minds and children couldnt go on school trips/hobby/sport, because they could no longer afford it.
It happens all the time.

Yes, it is upsetting for the children. But it's the job of the parents to deal with this upset and teach children that sometimes, financial circumstances change and unfortunately we can't always go on trips/hobbies that we would like to.

In no way should you offer to pay. You didn't not agree to pay for these things.
These were activities agreed by the parents - not you

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