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Should my MIL grow up or am I insensitive?

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birthdayboyy · 19/04/2024 08:40

NC for this. My DS is going to be 1 in July and we’re planning a little party for him. DP’s parents are divorced and his father re-married his ‘other woman.’ They have been married for 15 years and together for 20.
My MIL refuses to be around her ex husband’s new wife (understandably, it was all quite acrimonious at the time). For example if my FIL wants to visit to see our DS he will not come on a day he knows my MIL will be here as the two women being in the same room together, and this has never happened.
It’s been like this for years but now we have a child it’s all a bit awkward. I want to invite my DP’s stepmother to our child’s little birthday party. It seems unkind not to as she is a presence in his life.
I don’t want to upset my MIL or make her feel uncomfortable, but since having a child my outlook on various things has changed/I’m willing to stand up for myself a bit more and part of my thinks - this isn’t about you, suck it up. However I don’t want any bad atmosphere to ruin my little boy’s day.
MIL isn’t one to bite her tongue which won’t help things.
DP says he’d rather his step mother didn’t come so I think I should respect his feelings on this and choose my battles, but it all seems unfair to me.
I understand that he doesn’t want to upset his mum and I don’t either, we have a good relationship and I wouldn’t want her to feel upset.
For context it would be a small party as my entire family live on the other side of the country, so we’re planning on doing something separate with them.

Am I being unfair?

OP posts:
Americano75 · 19/04/2024 13:57

Ah, 'get a grip'. Lovely.

LookItsMeAgain · 19/04/2024 13:58

@birthdayboyy - you wrote "I would not override DP on this as it’s his family, but I’m minded to be honest with him how I feel about it as it all seems ridiculous to me. This is a special occasion for my son."

It's your DP's son too. He should be deciding that all significant adults in your son's life should be sharing in your son's significant events. I realise that this is a 1st birthday but what is likely to happen at other future significant events in your son's life? Are you to ignore your FiL's second wife for everything? Has your DP provided an answer to that? Has your DP tried to approach his mother about this so that you can eventually invite everyone to things?

Americano75 · 19/04/2024 13:59

Greencustard · 19/04/2024 13:07

Did your ex treat you like shit after it? Bully you? Take all the money that was half yours? treat your DC with such disrepect ie, not turning up for them when he promised? Did the OW make up a false story of assault and call the police on you while ex stood back and laughed? Would you really let all that go or would you draw some boundaries?

Jesus, I thought mine was bad. Have a non MN hug.

Onetiredbeing · 19/04/2024 14:00

SchoolQuestionnaire · 19/04/2024 08:45

This really isn’t anything to do with mil, your own dp doesn’t want his sm there so why are you pushing this? It’s his family and you should follow his lead.

This, don't butt into things that you have no knowledge of.
So if your dh went off and cheated on you, you would be ok to be in the same room as them? Think about that for a second.

Prydddan · 19/04/2024 14:01

MsRosley · 19/04/2024 13:46

So the SM instigated the whole affair? How very convenient that the MIL doesn't blame her ex-husband and can be civil to him. This is misogyny at its finest..

Who says she doesn't blame him?

And she may be laughing her head off at the fact that he has to explain to the OW - yet again, 20 years on! - that she's not invited, and subsequently deal with the consequences of him having had a nice cosy afternoon with his ex and the DC.

QuackaRoo · 19/04/2024 14:01

Invite to the event, whoever you want at the event.
It's up to them to make the decision about whether or not to attend.

Bruisername · 19/04/2024 14:02

My DH doesn’t view his step parents as either parents or grandparents. They are his parents partners. So he has no particular desire to prioritise them over his family members

so it depends on your DPs relationship with sm which doesn’t sound particularly familial

LauderSyme · 19/04/2024 14:02

Prydddan · 19/04/2024 10:07

Not really. My daughters have done it for 30 years, and have no problems socialising with their dad and me separately.

The difference between them and the OP is that they understand how appallingly my ex behaved towards me - while we were married and for a long time after the divorce - and have the empathy to know that the way I was treated is not something that someone "gets over". Ever.

They also never had the expectation that, with a bitter spilt-up in the family history, everyone would just forget about all that and be prepared to happily turn up as props when summoned.

Thank you for this elegant post. I understand where you are coming from.

I realised after I wrote upthread that "OP is entitled to her feelings" that I was being stupidly, ironically contradictory with regards to MIL's feelings. Yes, she is entitled to act on them and set her own boundaries.

I think my initial responses were coloured by my own experiences of being horribly betrayed by people close to me (but in different contexts to yours and MIL's) and then being forced by others to 'act nice for the greater good'. I had to suck it up.

But it was wrong that my boundaries were so trampled over and other people's feelings were prioritised way over mine. I should not now wish to impose that on others.

Onetiredbeing · 19/04/2024 14:02

birthdayboyy · 19/04/2024 09:00

Also to add I have a good relationship with my MIL and don’t think that the other woman should be prioritised at all, but MIL would see it like this. She would be terribly upset to miss the little party and it wouldn’t want to take that away from her. Part of my just thinks when will this end?!

So then why would you even butt in?
It doesn't matter if it's 20 years, you did not go through your family breaking up so you have no place to expect people to 'grow up'

applecrumbl6 · 19/04/2024 14:02

Your son is 1 and will have no idea, so it isn't a special occasion for him in that way. So not worth dying in a ditch on this one. If in 5 years time he's v close with step gran then worth making a point then. They may have fixed it / broken up / died by then.

FWIW I have a stepmother, children, a bitter mother, etc. My step mother always volunteers to duck out when it's not a big deal to her or when its a small group. She attends weddings, etc where the people whose day it is are aware of her presence and she can mingle in with others. Skips wedding rehearsals, nights before weddings, smaller more intimate things. Not worth the drama.

Iloveyoubut · 19/04/2024 14:02

Alwaysalwayscold · 19/04/2024 08:48

If you don't stop this now, you've got a lifetime of it to deal with. It will be a constant annoyance and obstacle in everything you plan for your child. It happened 20 years ago, she either needs to move on or stay away. She's the one with the problem.

I agree with this poster. It might be your dh’s family but it’s your child and if this isn’t sorted now it’s going to cause problem after problem for years to come.

beAsensible1 · 19/04/2024 14:03

So FIL was a shit father after the affair as well. DH has grounds for his prioritising the parent who made the effort.

Fil will manage with coming second, you should support your DPs decision on this. dont push.

Dylanesque · 19/04/2024 14:04

'Never forget, never forgive' is a good mindset to have. That way, there's less chance of being taken for a fool ever again. I'm with your MIL on this

Greencustard · 19/04/2024 14:05

Americano75 · 19/04/2024 13:59

Jesus, I thought mine was bad. Have a non MN hug.

Thank you. It was 10 years ago and I've long moved on but I would never want to see him again, from a distance yes, close quarters, no way.

Americano75 · 19/04/2024 14:07

Greencustard · 19/04/2024 14:05

Thank you. It was 10 years ago and I've long moved on but I would never want to see him again, from a distance yes, close quarters, no way.

I hear you. Luckily my own daughter is a young adult now so there is no need for contact between us at all.

nokidshere · 19/04/2024 14:07

MIL decides not to be in a room with a person she chooses not to be the her decision should be respected.

Of course she can decide, it's her choice. But that doesn't mean the new partner shouldn't be invited. Everyone should be invited and then they get to make their own decisions about their attendance.

applecrumbl6 · 19/04/2024 14:11

Just to add that if you are not happy to be flexible on this, you should have chosen a different husband tbh. It must have been in issue throughout the time you've known him. Not all families can play happy families and a good partner has empathy for that and accomodates. All my sibling-in laws and my husband know the drill.

Prydddan · 19/04/2024 14:12

nokidshere · 19/04/2024 14:07

MIL decides not to be in a room with a person she chooses not to be the her decision should be respected.

Of course she can decide, it's her choice. But that doesn't mean the new partner shouldn't be invited. Everyone should be invited and then they get to make their own decisions about their attendance.

Fortunately, the OP's partner here - the "difficult" MIL's son - sounds sensible and loyal to his mother (and pretty lukewarm about his dad - what a surprise!) and is not ever going to take that route.

Milli0ns · 19/04/2024 14:19

nokidshere · 19/04/2024 14:07

MIL decides not to be in a room with a person she chooses not to be the her decision should be respected.

Of course she can decide, it's her choice. But that doesn't mean the new partner shouldn't be invited. Everyone should be invited and then they get to make their own decisions about their attendance.

Does it make any difference that OP’s DP doesn’t want his SM at the party? Or should he suck it up and invite her because the mother of D.C. wants a nice family pic (to post on SM) whilst doing so may cause distress to the mum who fed him, clothed him, housed him and cared for him while his father shagged another woman?

HelpMeUnpickThis · 19/04/2024 14:20

Baconking · 19/04/2024 09:02

It's a special occasion for you.

Your son is 1 so will have no clue or care about this party.

Have a read of the relationships board and see the utter devastation that cheating has on women and families. It doesn't matter if they didn't get on, he cheated rather than leave first. Who knows how the OW behaved at the time.

MIL doesn't need to grow up. Maybe you could try having some empathy

@Baconking thank you.

@birthdayboyy I know you are super focused on your son’s first birthday but honestly you are being quite insensitive.

Affairs cause absolute devastation, whether your DH remembers that or not. I think you need to be more empathetic and the correct thing is for the OW to stay at home and sit this one out.

OriginalUsername2 · 19/04/2024 14:22

Should she have moved on? Imagine your family set-up and the future you imagined for it being taken away by a woman happy to sleep with a married man with children. Maybe it never goes away and still breaks her.

You might think “oh this is silly, time has moved on” but for her, 20 years later she’s suddenly expected to be in the same room as the woman who hurt her and pretend it’s not the most awkward and triggering thing so everyone else is comfortable?

I would make DF’s wife feel included in other ways - extra visits and nice times with your son, just for her.

Usernamechange1234 · 19/04/2024 14:34

It’s very easy to see things through rose tinted glasses and think that time heals, that people should just get over it. It’s not how it works. Affairs are traumatic and abusive.

Why should your MIL be forced into a room with the OW and just suck it up so everyone else feels better; boundaries are important.

FWIW I think that if you decide to involve yourself in someone else’s marriage and family by cheating you just have to accept that your life moving forward be in some way affected by your actions.

Your DP seems to have a handle on this and clear boundaries that support his mum, do not get involved. Leave it for him to navigate.

Ncncncncc · 19/04/2024 14:41

birthdayboyy · 19/04/2024 12:29

It’s a bit complex as DP feels his father hasn’t bothered with him much over the years, he can’t rely on him etc. understandably he wants to prioritise his mum which I completely understand.

FIL wife is respectful about boundaries and wouldn’t make a big deal of it if she wasn’t invited. As others have rightly pointed out I have no idea what really went on and how far reaching these feelings are. Thanks to everyone who has advised to keep my nose out, I think this is the best thing I can do.

Also realise my son won’t really know what’s going on, I just felt it was a shame he wouldn’t have everyone around him at the same time, but families aren’t always easy.

With my FIL my DP very much feels that he’s made his bed so can lie in it, and if this means missing out on special occasions for his grandson then so be it. I recognise now that it isn’t my place to try and persuade him otherwise as it’s not my business. If the shoe was on the other foot I wouldn’t be happy with my DP meddling with something so complex and sensitive.

What would you like your son to do if you are in your MILs position in 30 years?

Let your daughter in law decide?

Ncncncncc · 19/04/2024 14:42

And also your son is definitely not going to notice his step granny not being there, let alone remember.

CurlewKate · 19/04/2024 14:43

A perfect Mumsnet thread- the opportunity to bash a universal villain (a mil) and cheer on a universal angel (a step mother) 🤣