Thinking that women would benefit if they were more open minded about height in a potential partner…

[Moonfishstar]

… and not write off the majority of men who are under 6 foot (85%).

Women seem to be fighting for a small proportion of men - with the disappointment that will inevitably bring to the many who inevitably won’t succeed. Of course, it’s even crapper for the good,
but short, men out there.

Of course, we all fancy who we fancy, and I’m not saying we should date shorter (or even average!) men out of pity or a “sense of fairness”, but how much of women’s desire to bag a tall guy is actually societal, and down to how they think other women will view them?

To be fair I am not drop dead gorgeous, I just ticked a lot of the stereotypes in my youth (blonde, tall, blue eyes, thin).
It's ok, ops friend wouldn't look twice at me now as I'm over 30 and therefore invisible.
Plus my existing shorty may get territorial if I bring home a stray.

Tall females as well. Not 6 foot but something like 5’7 is considered a lovely height.

Dating them out of fairness seems to be exactly what you are suggesting!

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And that's the most important thing - the humans, the people (ie men) will have their fair share of womenthings to service them.

I always felt this way, I am 5.10 but when I met my now husband he made up for the missing inch in height with his personality.
My best friend has always been very vocal about this, and won´t date ANYONE not taller than her. Maybe it has an influence on the fact she has never married (which she always wanted).

I saw some tiktoks from a company that sells realistic looking hair pieces to balding men. Lots of their customers are 20 and 30-something men. I notice that underneath these videos there are always lots of comments from women saying things like ‘you look amazing’, ‘wow, what a transformation’, ‘looking great’ etc. etc. Basically, being lovely and supportive to these men. Men on the internet rarely lend the same level of support to women who don’t fit the beauty ideals.

Which is a long old way of saying that all these claims of misandry sound like old bollocks to me.

@ScubaDivingSpiderMonkey, I agree the misandry claims are nonsense (I think). My impression is MN nowadays is quite patriarchal and claims that almost all women are amazing performers and perfect martyrs, and any woman saying she is otherwise is casr as a monster. Of course, this means they are amazing in contrast to men generally but it is from patriarchal viewpoint rather than misandry.
Or that is nonsense. Sorry.

I'm 6 foot two. My partner is five foot eight.

My sense of self worth and self love does not hinge on the height (or indeed anything else) of another person. He's the best man I have ever met. He's thoughtful, kind, intelligent, does a lot of good in the local community, and is absolutely wonderful.

We were both on dating apps for a time, then came off them, before we met each other. He went on a date with a woman he met on Tinder. They mey, she saw his height, said "no, you're too short and walked out".

I see her round town sometimes, and she's monstrously fat, has two kids by this known local criminal, and looks like hell. Her boyfriend is like a shaved gorilla and at least 6 foot 7, so I guess she got the important thing, right? Hahaha.

I do wonder how, for example, a 6' 4" man and a 5' 3" woman manage 69?

I know two young women married to guys who are average height - if 5ft 8 or 9 is still average? Obviously they are happy - but their mums have privately expressed disappointment to me. Like ' he's lovely . But....'.

Maybe it's a generational thing?

I think it's massively over-rated anyway. Like shampoo-conditioners are fine in a pinch but a piss poor alternative to shampoo then conditioner. One at a time please.

Scandinavia does seem to be ahead of us in social issues and height is far less of an issue here.
I am a man (5'10") and have been approached by taller women several times, which would not happen in the UK.

OP, completely agree with you!

As someone who's 5'9 and often wear heels, height is not a key criteria for me.

It's mind-boggling how many red flags people are willing to ignore, but then happy to reject someone based on height.

In an ideal scenario, yeah, someone 6'3+ would be nice. But I'd never ever disregard someone because of their height if they seem to have a captivating personality. Also, when horizontal, height is a non-issue... I'm currently seeing a wonderful man who I think is shorter than I am, even when I don't wear heels. I don't know as I don't care and I wouldn't want him any different.

I think 'misandry' was introduced by our resident MRA (they used to say 'double standards' all the time until they learned it) who haunt the boards looking for evidence to support their claims that women are oppressing men. MN is one of the few places where they can find any evidence of women centred discussion. And of course, if you're centering women, you must be hating men.
Unfortunately the term has now been adopted and used hyperbolically by some women who are either uncomfortable with criticism of men in general and unable to seperate the personal from the societal (their husband is lovely, they fear for their sons) or seem to live as though they are under constant observation from men, and want to win their approval by being the one who jumps to their defence.
I agree with PP, in a society where men hold the power the concept had very little meaning and is mainly just a way of calling women 'bitter' and 'nasty' that they think makes them sound intelligent.

I see her round town sometimes, and she's monstrously fat, has two kids by this known local criminal, and looks like hell. Her boyfriend is like a shaved gorilla and at least 6 foot 7, so I guess she got the important thing, right? Hahaha.

Please tell me you write for a living because I’ve been ugly laughing for the last 5 minutes 🤣

I had a colleague who told anyone who would listen that her hubby was ‘6ft 4 and built like a brick shithouse’ (even clients!). He popped by the office one day and fuck me he could’ve been Shrek’s double!

You're too kind, thank you so much! I'm sick home from work and literally am Le Die (If I were a man I would have far exceeded Man Flu, we're into Manthrax terrotory here, the Dressing Gown of Doom is on, The Hood is Deployed, and I'm slathered in so much Vicks I'm like a mentholayted otter).

I don't write for a living, alas. I work in a small company in a niche industry. However, my daily and weekly reports about my progress are similarly written (I belive, IIRC, my last handover to a colleague filling in when I was on leave, ended with "May the odds be ever in your favour") and apparently, this is just how I roll.

And at any rate, he does look like a shaved gorilla! She (this horrible woman) stopped my partner and said hi once, wirth her alopecia addled ape in tow. The resemblance is unacanny.

My point is though, height is so far not the most important thing, and as someone else rtightly said above, so many women ignore so many red flags because a man fulfills that once basic criteria.

We deserve better and we need to start re-evaluating what is important to us.

What's interesting is how something like having a dating preference is MISANDRY. All it takes to hate men is not to be prepared to date every last one of them.

I think short men are probably disadvantaged when it comes to dating...but dating and relationships are not an equal opportunity type of thing. And many other characteristics on both men and women can make dating difficult.

To be frank it's tough shit really.

If they're on the look out for misandry as the counterpoint to misogyny, the pickings are slim. They're doing the best they can with what they've got.

I’ve dated men from 5’4” to 6’, ended up marrying one who’s 6’9”.
Nothing to do with his height, he’s a great man who makes me laugh every day

I’ve always fancied short men, my first ex and my late dh were shorter than me.. both around 5foot 4

It's worth remembering that Yuri Gagarin, the first person in space, got the job for his high skills and competence, good looks and the fact that, at 5'2", he was one of the few cosmonauts who could fit inside the space capsule. He also hit his head when trying to escape out of a window when his wife found him cheating, so at least two women liked him.

Whos' saying it's misandry? Where? Is it happening on this thread?

If you missed the accusations of "shocking and blatant misandry" from a couple of pages back, it may be you who requires the medication. Love.

Are women allowed to screen out angry men who use misogynistic and disablist slurs?

It's mind-boggling how many red flags people are willing to ignore, but then happy to reject someone based on height.

Probably what the OP was driving at - but height will be part of sexual preference for some women but I think only on OLD would it be a such a barrier and most women would be looking at a variety of things that are important to them. For me it was the classic make me laugh ie show some intelligence good humor, empathy and understanding.