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My sister asked me this

132 replies

lovedogsandcats · 13/04/2024 15:41

My sister 1 has been on her own for years . Seemingly happily so but did have 2 difficult long term relationships. She has 2 grown up daughters both in loving stable and happy relationships.
Just been away on holiday with sister 1 and sister 2 ( sister 2 is married ) along with my husband and sister 2s husband .
I lost one my daughters to suicide 5 years ago . She was 19 .
Over wine ( plenty of it ) sister 1 was talking about how lucky we were to have loving partners and so are her daughters. I agreed but pointed out that she still has both her beautiful girls and how lucky she was too . She then said ' but you'd rather have what you have with your DH than have your daughter. Wouldn't you?'
AIBU to be dwelling on the fact that she asked me this ?It was in front of all of us (inc DH) . I replied that I would have my daughter back in a heartbeat.
DH went to bed shortly after this and next morning suggested I should not have made my comment in the first place .
Im not sure whether to talk to her about it .
There is a hit of a backstory about our relationship- I've always felt a bit bullied by her .
What are your thoughts?

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lovedogsandcats · 13/04/2024 18:55

StormingNorman · 13/04/2024 18:50

Your sister was wrong to suggest any relationship could make up for the loss of your child in this way.

Your comment that she was lucky to have her DD is entirely understandable given the conversation. Even it was meant as a ‘stop feeling sorry for yourself’ dig, your sister should not have picked up the baton. Having a dig and jumping on the worst moments of your life are not comparable in sisterly tit for tat.

I think DH was a dick too. He needed to check in on you after the subject was raised. Not go to bed in a strop.

No ifs, no buts, no coconuts.

He really didn't strop off . He just left shortly after the question . None of this was heated or angry. We carried on having a "pleasant" evening but it had just stayed with me ...and I suspect with her .

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BobbyBiscuits · 13/04/2024 18:55

It was in drink, maybe you touched a nerve, she felt defensive? Maybe it's that she's cold hearted and horrible but I think that's highly unlikely.
Maybe you should chat when sober and not hungover, kind of mutually apologise, acknowledge you are both lucky and unlucky, but have different experiences and just want to be supportive. I certainly wouldn't fall out over it.

1offnamechange · 13/04/2024 18:57

StormingNorman · 13/04/2024 18:50

Your sister was wrong to suggest any relationship could make up for the loss of your child in this way.

Your comment that she was lucky to have her DD is entirely understandable given the conversation. Even it was meant as a ‘stop feeling sorry for yourself’ dig, your sister should not have picked up the baton. Having a dig and jumping on the worst moments of your life are not comparable in sisterly tit for tat.

I think DH was a dick too. He needed to check in on you after the subject was raised. Not go to bed in a strop.

No ifs, no buts, no coconuts.

weird post.

there is literally nothing to support your assertation that the DH 'went to bed in a strop.'

And then the random schoolyard rhyme at the end, just odd and a bit inappropriate given the topic under discussion. Like ending a post with 'I know you are but what am I?' Confused

Doteycat · 13/04/2024 18:59

lovedogsandcats · 13/04/2024 18:20

We do have a 'walking on eggshells" relationship.
I possibly feel a bit sad that she said it cross at myself a bit too .
The holiday we were on was to visit the place we are moving to ( outside of the UK) and I expect I will see more of her and for longer spells of time in the future.
Spending time with sisters is so much trickier than being with my friends. That makes me sad 😞

I get that.
But if you think about that, you would never have said to a friend what you said to her.
And because you have a tricky relationship, she went for the jugular.
U need to reach an entente cordial if you are going to be around each other a lot more or there will be carnage.

Noicant · 13/04/2024 19:01

I think you shouldn’t have brought your Dd up. Of course she’s there in your mind and I’m so sorry for your loss. But she was talking about how lucky everyone was to be in a romantic partnership (happy relationships are lucky). She’s allowed to be sad about that and to want it for herself.

What she said back was really strange though.

I would forget about it, you were all drinking and I’m sure she’s regretting what she said as well.

Chewbacalava · 13/04/2024 19:02

Park it - you’d all been drinking. She sounds goady and your DH took it as yes, and wad probably just a bit hurt.

So sorry about your DD, an unimaginable loss 💐

Saymyname28 · 13/04/2024 19:03

I don't think you should made your initial comment. You are lucky to have a loving partner. Your daughter dying is unrelated to that. And she longs for love, and has suffered unhappy relationships, having children doesn't negate that.

But her comment about rather having a husband than a living daughter is silly, no sane person would give their child's life in exchange for love.

Sweetheart7 · 13/04/2024 19:03

Perhaps your sister didn't mean it BUT 5 years is pretty recent and your sister shouldn't of really said that in front of your DH... you did right to call her out OP. Agree with others too probably was the alcohol

StormingNorman · 13/04/2024 19:05

1offnamechange · 13/04/2024 18:57

weird post.

there is literally nothing to support your assertation that the DH 'went to bed in a strop.'

And then the random schoolyard rhyme at the end, just odd and a bit inappropriate given the topic under discussion. Like ending a post with 'I know you are but what am I?' Confused

Edited

Bless your heart x

lovedogsandcats · 13/04/2024 19:06

I've just sent a simple message to her now to say that I am sorry if I hijacked what she was trying to say and I'm hoping she takes that well . I am trying to avoid a confrontation but I'm sure it will just bubble away and cause more problems in the future if I don't accept my part in this Confused

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YoureALizardHarry11 · 13/04/2024 19:07

Yes, you maybe shouldn’t have said what you said, but your sister’s reply was utterly weird. I mean, who thinks anyone would prefer anything over their own child? No, your child is more important than any other person. What a strange thing to say or think.

romdowa · 13/04/2024 19:10

Imo both your sister and your dh are unreasonable and completely out of line. Your sister is lucky to have both her children. If she's unhappy being single then she can change that , you unfortunate can't change the passing of your daughter and her question was disgusting. So sorry for your tragic loss.

Willyoujustbequiet · 13/04/2024 19:14

MonsieurSpade · 13/04/2024 15:55

Why shouldn’t OP talk about her dd?
Any mother would put their dd’s life above a relationship.
The sister is insensitive and tactless and frankly doesn’t know what she’s talking about!

This

I'm so sorry for your loss OP. My friend lost her 18 year old daughter to the same. Your sister cannot possibly understand how it feels like and imo her attitude is shocking. I would be so disappointed in her.

VJBR · 13/04/2024 19:14

TodayIsNotMyDay · 13/04/2024 18:33

I agree with you husband.
You really shouldn't have said what you said.
She was opening up, it’s fucking hard having to be single, even more so when on holiday with privlidged people who do have partners, and then you wouldn’t even have that moment of vulnerability and had to compare.
Did you at least apologize?

Are you for real? Why on earth should she apologise.

mrsdineen2 · 13/04/2024 19:19

I've read this multiple times, including OP's updates, and I'm still at a complete loss as to what she's supposed to have said wrong. Sister was massively out of order.

Frazzledmummy123 · 13/04/2024 19:22

lovedogsandcats · 13/04/2024 19:06

I've just sent a simple message to her now to say that I am sorry if I hijacked what she was trying to say and I'm hoping she takes that well . I am trying to avoid a confrontation but I'm sure it will just bubble away and cause more problems in the future if I don't accept my part in this Confused

Your sister got offended and brought your daughter who has passed into it. It should be her apologising to you and worrying how you'll respond, not other way round!

lovedogsandcats · 13/04/2024 19:26

She's replied to my message and thanked me for acknowledging that I devalued her feelings and that she knows I'm in pain . No mention of what she said . She may have forgotten because she had been drinking. Oh dear 😳

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Willyoujustbequiet · 13/04/2024 19:27

TodayIsNotMyDay · 13/04/2024 18:33

I agree with you husband.
You really shouldn't have said what you said.
She was opening up, it’s fucking hard having to be single, even more so when on holiday with privlidged people who do have partners, and then you wouldn’t even have that moment of vulnerability and had to compare.
Did you at least apologize?

I'm staggered by this type of response.

How anyone can talk about how hard it is to be single to an op who lost a child to suicide is completely alien to me. It beggars belief.

MILTOBE · 13/04/2024 19:27

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 13/04/2024 15:49

I'm very sorry for your loss, but I agree with your DH.

Your comment essentially turned the conversation into a "who is the luckiest/unluckiest" competition, and it was you that brought the (unspoken) topic of your daughter up. That was never going to end well, particularly with alcohol in the mix.

Her next question was obviously wholly inappropriate, but you chose to continue the conversation by answering it.

Edited

Is was sister 1 who brought up her daughter, not the OP:

sister 1 was talking about how lucky we were to have loving partners and so are her daughters.

OP, I am so sorry you lost your daughter. Flowers That must have been devastating for you and your husband and children.

Honestly, I would want to punch your sister. What a ridiculous and cruel thing to say.

I can see your husband was hurt but I think he should be angry with your sister, not with you. How could you say anything except that you wanted your daughter back?

AssassinsEyebrow · 13/04/2024 19:27

lovedogsandcats · 13/04/2024 19:26

She's replied to my message and thanked me for acknowledging that I devalued her feelings and that she knows I'm in pain . No mention of what she said . She may have forgotten because she had been drinking. Oh dear 😳

I think she knows exactly what she said.

Its her who is out of order not you

Willyoujustbequiet · 13/04/2024 19:28

Frazzledmummy123 · 13/04/2024 19:22

Your sister got offended and brought your daughter who has passed into it. It should be her apologising to you and worrying how you'll respond, not other way round!

Indeed.

It should be her apologising to you OP.

KarmenPQZ · 13/04/2024 19:29

mrsdineen2 · 13/04/2024 19:19

I've read this multiple times, including OP's updates, and I'm still at a complete loss as to what she's supposed to have said wrong. Sister was massively out of order.

Perhaps a more gracious reply would have been something along the lines of ‘we’ve all loved and lost in different way but aren’t we all lucky to have each other in this lovely holiday’

Unfortunately in the heat of the moment and especially after wine we don’t always have time to consider the best reply.

hugs to OP

Otherstories2002 · 13/04/2024 19:30

lovedogsandcats · 13/04/2024 16:02

My husband meant that I shouldn't have brought my situation in to the conversation at all . She was getting v teary about her own situation and I am not sure if I was trying to show her how lucky she was or if I was just thinking about myself.

You were both very insensitive.

AmethystSparkles · 13/04/2024 19:30

There’s absolutely no excuse for saying what she did.

She started the conversation for going on about how lucky you are. I’m single and would love the security of a relationship….I feel anxious a lot of the time having to face everything alone. However, I would not dream of telling someone in your situation that they were lucky even if I was really drunk.

As if you’d that as your trump card. I really despair at how some people’s minds work.

lovedogsandcats · 13/04/2024 19:31

I think I messaged her hoping that it would offer her the opportunity to do the same . That backfired a bit . Bloody hell . I think I'm going to have to suck it up and move in

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