Prostitute checked into our hotel!

[GrumpyL]

Ok, so away in London for a couple of days with DH and DD (10). We were staying in a 4* Hotel which is part of a large chain of hotels, not a small independent. We went to reception about 10.30 on the 2nd morning and was met with a lady (who was very obviously a prostitute) being told her room would be ready in 5 mins and her handing over £100 in cash to the receptionist. The hotel is £250+ a night and check in is 3pm!

AIBU to this this made the hotel feel a bit icky and sleazy after I saw that? Husband and I spoke briefly when DD wasn’t listening and he said “well they have to work somewhere!”. Not sure if I’m turning into a prude in my old age, but I really didn’t feel comfortable in the hotel after I saw that. I’m sure for her, it was a safe and comfortable place to work and I know this goes on in hotels, I suppose just seeing it in broad daylight shocked me a bit. We knew what she was there for, the receptionist knew what she was there for, the man behind us in the queue knew what she was there for, maybe I thought she and the hotel should have been a bit more discreet if they allow this to go on in their hotel, especially when it’s a family friendly hotel and there were a lot of children around?

It really isn’t.

The name change is part of a much wider movement to promote the sale and purchase of women’s bodies for men’s sexual gratification as an entirely legitimate form of business, the same as any other. Women who hold the opinion that prostitution is a form of male abuse of women are derided as ‘swerfs’. ( sex work excluding radical feminists) and they have been hounded and attacked ( physically) if they try to hold rallies objecting to prostitution or other commercialized forms of male sexual abuse or use of women.

Clearly the people attacking them understand the term sex worker has not just been coined to give dignity to women, or to include all forms of commercialized sexual use of women, or to include men too, or any of the other similar reasons given by posters on here.

There’s a much bigger picture that I would encourage people to look into before repeating the term ‘sex worker’.

I agree.
Hotels take peoples details when they pay for a room. They will know who they have on site.
Loud’s of random guys walking in and out without verifying their name and address, which they won’t be, is extremely concerning.
I wouldn’t want to be staying in a hotel where this is the norm.

She hasn’t been to King’s Cross since it’s been gentrified either. 😂

Hotels only take details of the person making the booking - and many don't ask for any form of ID.

Anyone can have random people coming to stay overnight with them in a hotel with no checks made.

That was my thought! There are some great cocktails and ‘meals’ to be had there now. It’s quite ‘classy’ too.

If it’s rape in 80% of cases then the hotels being used should be calling the police and not treating such a situation as the norm and acceptable.
It doesn’t sound like this hotel is taking any care whatsoever.

Buffypaws thank you for posting that article.

There truly are some vile pieces of shit around, and this clarifies that.
Prostitution should be made illegal.
Listen to those who know.
Not some cunt who hates women.

Why not leave a comment about it on trip advisor @GrumpyL tbh I would!

Maybe the hotel will come back and verify 😆

Prostitution should be made illegal.

And how do you think that would go when most rapes aren’t convicted now?

https://www.saunders.co.uk/news/virtually-all-rape-victims-are-denied-justice-here-is-the-roadmap-to-failure/#:~:text=But%20the%20broad%20indication%20is,is%20an%20absurd%2C%20abject%20failure.

I don't agree that prostitution should be illegal, quite the opposite.
Procuring a person for prostitution, that should be illegal. As should running a brothel/prostitution ring.

Was this her?

"The term “sex worker” recognizes that sex work is work. Prostitution, on the other hand, has connotations of criminality and immorality. Many people who sell sexual services prefer the term “sex worker” and find “prostitute” demeaning and stigmatizing, which contributes to their exclusion from health, legal, and social services."

Understanding Sex Work in an Open Society - Open Society Foundations

StellaInfoSheetLanguageMatters.pdf (nswp.org)

In the context of your objections to this, then it is not prostitution either. Trafficking and forced and non-consensual sex work is just plain abuse. A woman in those circumstances is a victim, not a prostitute. Using the word prostitute doesn't make it any any better in that context. To also argue that there are no women who engage in consexual sex for money in the age of the internet is totally incorrect.

There is a historical element to the word "prostitute". It has always been a word that was used to perjoratively attack and degrade a woman by women and men. We may as well call them harlots and strumpets. As I said if you feel that men will care about what you call them and think your stance will make men see the error of their ways, then do so. But there has been preference in the women in the sex trade to drop the word prostitute. It also goes to the issue of legalizing prostitution, which undeniably affords sex workers more protection. You still keep wanting to argue on this point, even though I don't think we are going to see it each other's way.

I agree that it is a heavily naunced subject. But I disagree that calling a woman a prostitute is the alternative.

I disagree that "sex work is work".

And sex workers disagree with you. 🤷‍♀️

You speak for all prostituted women do you?

I'm very suspicious of anyone trying to legitimise prostitution as "work".

It’s work but I agree it should not be legitimised, it should be illegal for people to pay for sex.

You do realise that in a hotel pretty much type of person and every type of activity has occurred right? That bed you’re sleeping in at the premier inn has had couples doing bum stuff in it, solo men having solo fun, probably an orgy, maybe even a death or two! You have to get over it or you’d never go anywhere or do anything. You share toilet seats with these people too

Oh ffs. How did you know? Did you ask her? Did you ask the receptionist? Did you ask the guy behind her? And if so - so what? Did she ask to use your room?

Which of those things do you think is currently legal? Neither of them are - you can't make something more illegal just by inventing some shiny new laws to throw at it; it either is or it isn't.

Why not enforce existing laws on kidnap, trafficking, rape, sexual assault, pimping, coercion and exploitation and leave everybody else alone?

Prostitution is legal in the uk, ( not NI ) ie sex for money
It is illegal however to procure clients off the street, that’s soliciting

theres always a mix at hotels of various people, espionage agents, various businesses etc

Yes, I know it is - I didn't say it wasn't. Selling sex is also legal in NI; it's buying it that isn't, which is one of the positions touted by those who profess to care about sex workers despite it making their work more difficult and dangerous. It also increases the amount they have to work, because fewer punters means fewer options to avoid the ones they don't like the sound of.

Procuring a prositute (as well as inciting prostitution) and running a prostitution ring were things that a PP said she thought should be illegal. I was pointing out they were already

Well thats bullshit as the client pays for the room and if they were hiring it for an hour they'd pay less and go to a travelodge and also check in together.