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Should I let ex DH claim child benefit?

146 replies

Pinacoladaqueen · 10/04/2024 16:04

Me and DH are going through a nasty divorce I have been the “breadwinner” for the past 2 years and he works part time hours.

I have purchased my own home and I am moving in on Saturday and he is due to become homeless. Unless he stays with me for a little bit (which I do not want) he is refusing to rent privately.

The housing officer has said you can’t apply for housing for you and the children unless you claim child benefit.

Im concerned that if I allow him to claim it I won’t see any of the money again and will loose this access.

AIBU to not let him claim for it?

OP posts:
FlippyFloppyShoe · 11/04/2024 11:16

Sooooootired01 · 11/04/2024 11:14

@FlippyFloppyShoe Shouldn't be the case upon divorce that one parent has a home but the other suddenly doesn't.

Maybe you should read my initial post

Haydenn · 11/04/2024 12:15

WarshipRocinante · 11/04/2024 11:07

Is that what you would say to a man who was leaving his wife? If she was without a home because she worked part time in order to be the main carer of their children. You would say it isn’t his problem, take the kids and keep the benefits?

If the wife had a history of violence and the divorce was nasty. You bet I’d tell him to look out for himself and put himself and his kids first rather than worrying about the other adults living arrangements.

we also know he worked part time, but that could have been another facet of financial abuse, keeping her as the breadwinner and happily living off her money. So

InTheShallowTheShalalalalalalalow · 11/04/2024 12:20

Haydenn · 11/04/2024 12:15

If the wife had a history of violence and the divorce was nasty. You bet I’d tell him to look out for himself and put himself and his kids first rather than worrying about the other adults living arrangements.

we also know he worked part time, but that could have been another facet of financial abuse, keeping her as the breadwinner and happily living off her money. So

Nobody said he was violent.

You also don't know that op didn't ask him to work part time to look after the kids while she pursued her career.

It may well be that op is financially abusive, which seems pretty likely considering she has a new house to move into and he is on the verge of homelessness.

She is also controlling the benefits, and wants a 50/50 split, so why is she deciding the benefit situation when she's happy for 50/50 split of the kids time.

I could be totally wrong, of course, as op did drip feed the abuse, but even by ops posts it seems that she is also financially abusive tbh.

Rjjwja1 · 11/04/2024 13:43

StormingNorman · 10/04/2024 16:25

Does he work part time to care for the children?

I think if this was a man asking if he should leave a SAHM destitute, the response would be a resounding no.

If it was on Mumsnet all of you would be in favour of her!

Rjjwja1 · 11/04/2024 13:43

Do you want your kids to have a homeless dad.

if so ☠️

Rjjwja1 · 11/04/2024 13:46

Pinacoladaqueen · 10/04/2024 21:22

He feels that I have done him wrong as I have left him homeless but what else am I supposed to do I’ve been in an abusive relationship with him for 7 years. I don’t want him to be homeless but I don’t feel comfortable signing over child benefit to him so he can secure a council house.

Chances are if you were a man you would pay spousal maintenance

Rjjwja1 · 11/04/2024 13:49

InTheShallowTheShalalalalalalalow · 11/04/2024 10:55

Op, if he is abusive why are you going 50/50 with him?

Especially after you move out and he is homeless, he is going to have a real bee in his bonnet about it and take it out on the kids.

If he was doing the bulk of childcare previously to this then what's happening now?

Take the abuse out of the situation and, financially, it sounds like he was largely a SAHP, and has been utterly screwed over in the finances of the separation, is now asking for CB to secure accommodation and is getting told no.

I was with an abusive man and fought tooth and nail to make sure my kids were protected from him, no way would I have considered 50/50,so I can't get my head around him being abusive enough to deny him CB to secure a home (which is also for your dc) but not abusive enough that you want to protect your dc.

Because he’s not abusive (everyone who gets divorced accuses each over of that - the court will find who is lying)or she prioritises material goods over the kids

InTheShallowTheShalalalalalalalow · 11/04/2024 13:52

Rjjwja1 · 11/04/2024 13:49

Because he’s not abusive (everyone who gets divorced accuses each over of that - the court will find who is lying)or she prioritises material goods over the kids

Well I'm not going to accused op of lying about abuse, however I do think it's very strange that she wants to split the kids time 50/50 with an abusive man, and also keep him homeless so the kods have nowhere to go with him, and also be the breadwinner and also keep all the benefit money.

Naunet · 11/04/2024 14:44

OP, no one can give you fair advice when you won’t tell us if he was part time because of childcare. The fact that you haven’t answered this makes me think it is the case, and seeing as you don’t seem to have any objections to him continuing to be the main parent, then yes, he should get the CB. If the abuse is irrelevant in him sharing custody, then it’s also irrelevant in terms of child benefit. I’m not trying to be cruel, I’m glad you’ve found a way out, but CB really isn’t the hill to die on, especially if he will continue to provide most of the care.

Naunet · 11/04/2024 14:47

Rjjwja1 · 11/04/2024 13:49

Because he’s not abusive (everyone who gets divorced accuses each over of that - the court will find who is lying)or she prioritises material goods over the kids

Seriously, unless you were there and know it for a fact, that’s a fucking awful thing to say. You literally have no idea, and most the time courts have no idea either, hence rape being basically legal.

Rjjwja1 · 11/04/2024 14:51

Naunet · 11/04/2024 14:47

Seriously, unless you were there and know it for a fact, that’s a fucking awful thing to say. You literally have no idea, and most the time courts have no idea either, hence rape being basically legal.

I do have an idea

because she is letting her husband have the kids 50/50

i wouldn’t let your kids spend time with an abuser and rapist. - neither would you and neither would OP

WarshipRocinante · 11/04/2024 14:53

Naunet · 11/04/2024 14:47

Seriously, unless you were there and know it for a fact, that’s a fucking awful thing to say. You literally have no idea, and most the time courts have no idea either, hence rape being basically legal.

Right, well this guy isn’t a rapist so let’s not start with the dog whistle stuff. This guy is the main parent. He stays home and does part time hours to facilitate her career. He has now been made homeless because OP seems to have taken most of the assets or is simply in a better position for a mortgage due to working full time. He has said that he still wants to continue doing the childcare but as he will have to work full time, she will need to do 50% so they’re moving to 50-50. This guy is absolutely entitled to the child benefit and actually should have been claiming it the whole time to protect his pension.

Floppyelf · 11/04/2024 14:56

Pinacoladaqueen · 10/04/2024 21:22

He feels that I have done him wrong as I have left him homeless but what else am I supposed to do I’ve been in an abusive relationship with him for 7 years. I don’t want him to be homeless but I don’t feel comfortable signing over child benefit to him so he can secure a council house.

You don’t owe him jack shit. Guilt is a weapon used very well by abusers. If he’s flakey or will try to use the kids against you… you already know he will. The LA ( local authority will definitely house him in atleast in a b and b). He’s trying to have one over on you.

InTheShallowTheShalalalalalalalow · 11/04/2024 15:04

Floppyelf · 11/04/2024 14:56

You don’t owe him jack shit. Guilt is a weapon used very well by abusers. If he’s flakey or will try to use the kids against you… you already know he will. The LA ( local authority will definitely house him in atleast in a b and b). He’s trying to have one over on you.

If it's 50/50 why should op get the child benefit?

Especially when claiming it would allow him to get a home for him and the kids he will have 50/50.

Sounds more like op is trying to get one over on him, financially, at least.

WarshipRocinante · 11/04/2024 15:06

@Floppyelf

Whenever a woman goes part time to take care of children so her husband can be the breadwinner, posters on here will repeatedly say that he owes his career and earning power to her for making that sacrifice. Now, the OP hasn’t explicitly said that he went part time to do the bulk of the childcare but it seems very much implied that he did. So… I would say she does owe him.

Rjjwja1 · 11/04/2024 15:10

WarshipRocinante · 11/04/2024 15:06

@Floppyelf

Whenever a woman goes part time to take care of children so her husband can be the breadwinner, posters on here will repeatedly say that he owes his career and earning power to her for making that sacrifice. Now, the OP hasn’t explicitly said that he went part time to do the bulk of the childcare but it seems very much implied that he did. So… I would say she does owe him.

FINALLY SOMEBODY SAYS THIS!!

Warship your one of the only fair and unbiased people on this platform!

Naunet · 11/04/2024 15:11

WarshipRocinante · 11/04/2024 14:53

Right, well this guy isn’t a rapist so let’s not start with the dog whistle stuff. This guy is the main parent. He stays home and does part time hours to facilitate her career. He has now been made homeless because OP seems to have taken most of the assets or is simply in a better position for a mortgage due to working full time. He has said that he still wants to continue doing the childcare but as he will have to work full time, she will need to do 50% so they’re moving to 50-50. This guy is absolutely entitled to the child benefit and actually should have been claiming it the whole time to protect his pension.

Dog Whistle? Do you even know what that means?!

Look I agree that I wouldn’t willingly hand over my kids to an abusive father 50% of the time, but to say that means she’s lying about abuse is fucking disgusting. That is the issue I have here, if you care to read my other post that says he SHOULD get the CB, you’d see that and wouldn’t have wasted your time writing this reply. And one last thing, please do point to where Op confirms he is part time in order to provide childcare? Whilst I agree it’s likely, it is NOT a fact as you have suggested.

Rjjwja1 · 11/04/2024 15:12

Why aren’t you paying spousal maintenance?

Rjjwja1 · 11/04/2024 15:13

Naunet · 11/04/2024 15:11

Dog Whistle? Do you even know what that means?!

Look I agree that I wouldn’t willingly hand over my kids to an abusive father 50% of the time, but to say that means she’s lying about abuse is fucking disgusting. That is the issue I have here, if you care to read my other post that says he SHOULD get the CB, you’d see that and wouldn’t have wasted your time writing this reply. And one last thing, please do point to where Op confirms he is part time in order to provide childcare? Whilst I agree it’s likely, it is NOT a fact as you have suggested.

He was a SAHD so his future career was fucked

Rjjwja1 · 11/04/2024 15:15

SapphOhNo · 10/04/2024 22:27

His housing situation is not your problem. Don't let him claim.

Stay strong in the next couple of days then make sure you set very clear boundaries about how you communicate and contact e.g. an email address purely for to discuss DC so you have a written audit trail. don't let him set foot in your new home.

It is because the kids will spend 50% of the time with him.

half of the money is his

Naunet · 11/04/2024 15:16

Rjjwja1 · 11/04/2024 15:13

He was a SAHD so his future career was fucked

Where does OP confirm that?

Milkand2sugarsplease · 11/04/2024 15:21

He's going to be homeless because he won't rent privately, not because of the child benefit money or because you won't let him stay with you!!!

Sooooootired01 · 11/04/2024 15:23

I feel pretty strongly about this. I was in a very similar situation, apart from I am a mum and lost so very much financially. My ex-husband wasn't physically abusive so courts decided 50/50 shared care and ignored the many years of coercive control.
I mean, I suppose on reflection it wasn't that bad; he only took my purse out of my bag if I didn't wash up and I suppose it was OK to lock me out of the house if I failed to meet my 10pm curfew. And sleeping on the floor I got used to after a while.

Rjjwja1 · 11/04/2024 15:31

Naunet · 11/04/2024 15:16

Where does OP confirm that?

Everywhere

Naunet · 11/04/2024 15:42

Rjjwja1 · 11/04/2024 15:31

Everywhere

Don’t talk shit. She’s not said he provides childcare. Yes, he probably does, but as I said above, we don’t know it for a fact. First you say she’s lying about being abused, and then you lie about pretending to know he provides childcare when in reality, just have the same information as the rest of us.

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