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To have just driven off?

727 replies

Oklie · 09/04/2024 22:13

On my way home from work I collect mine and DHs DC either from nursery or my parents wherever they are that day as both are on my route home.

I also pass my husbands exes house who he shares a child with and so on the days (50:50) they are with us my husband will ask me to collect SC too.

Our DC are young and are often ratty by 5:30/6pm when they are picked up. There are often tantrums in the car or trying to get out of car seats when we pull up anywhere etc..

I have asked time and time again for SC to be ready when we arrive, he knows the time we will be there and I always let him know on the day too both earlier and 10 mins before we arrive. His mum also knows when I'll be picking up. However he always without fail seems to take ages coming out and its chaotic in the car waiting with tired, hungry and grumpy little ones.

I have asked dh to speak to him, I have spoken to him myself, I have asked DH to speak to ex, I have called / texted when I'm there and it's been 10 + mins of waiting in the car.

Anyway today I'd just had enough. It got to 15 mins of waiting in the car and I rang him again to which he admitted he was "just finishing a game" (as in a multiplayer xbox game) and was 'coming now'.

It got to gone 20 minutes I'd been waiting and so I text again, said it wasnt on and that I was going now and I just drove off and left. DH later went back himself.

DH thinks I was wrong, ex is apparently "fuming" because it meant she had to set off late for work waiting for DH to get there (but couldn't make sure he was ready to go on time obviously). I am passed caring. I don't mind picking up SS but I don't want to be left outside in the car for 20+ bloody minutes dealing with stressed out toddlers. It's disrespectful, especially when it's down to finishing a fucking game. This is not the first time this has happened, its not even uncommon, its practically 90% of the time I go I am left waiting for a stupid amount of time.

Was I unreasonable to have left? SS is 12.

OP posts:
InterIgnis · 10/04/2024 10:33

YaMuvva · 10/04/2024 10:30

I’m not saying she shouldn’t? But a bit of sympathy for the 12yo who actually seems to be burdening the pettiness of his parents and SM, wouldn’t go amiss.

Why? You limit your sympathy to your own kid, so what’s the problem OP limiting her sympathy to hers?

The poor burdened 12 year old wanted to play games knowing full well his stepmother was waiting in the car for him, so she quite reasonably left his actual parents to sort him out.

YaMuvva · 10/04/2024 10:34

BusyMummy001 · 10/04/2024 10:31

Loving the posts that say OP should call half an hour before arriving at the pre-agreed time, as a favour, because she is picking up her young DCs at a specific and immoveable time from nursery.

In the old days, if someone was picking you up at 5.30, you stood outside your house with your stuff at 5.30. The end.

Given she hasn’t even got his mum’s number and the pick up arrangements go solely through a child I actually think this is a good idea.

InterIgnis · 10/04/2024 10:34

YaMuvva · 10/04/2024 10:32

I have to say in times like this I wonder if the responses on this thread would have been different if the SS had been a SD. People tie in knots to make excuses for girls on here (I’m being dragged through the mud on another thread for not inviting my DD’s similar aged bully to her party because it’s not the poor girls fault she is the way she is apparently and she doesn’t understand what she does is wrong) but boys are expected to behave like competent adult men from a fairly young age.

Nope, totally the same opinion. Would also be totally the same opinion if this was a stepfather being made to wait.

Maray1967 · 10/04/2024 10:34

YaMuvva · 10/04/2024 10:30

I’m not saying she shouldn’t? But a bit of sympathy for the 12yo who actually seems to be burdening the pettiness of his parents and SM, wouldn’t go amiss.

Sympathy? He’s a 12 year old gamer who needs to learn that he has to manage his time gaming. What is needed here is arse kicking. It isn’t easy as the games are designed to keep them on, but at 12 he is old enough to learn. I switch games off for meal times, music teacher, when we need to go out as a family. I give fair warning but off it goes if I’m ignored.

Wheresthebeach · 10/04/2024 10:34

Completely reasonable. She's doing it to wind you up and it needs to stop. Let them sort out the care of their child, you are not a taxi service. Its a completely reasonable thing for you to do, but only if its recognised and respected. If its not, and its being used to cause you hassle then stop. Your DH needs to deal with this.

GeorgesMarvelousCalpol · 10/04/2024 10:35

Notsureaboutittoday · 10/04/2024 09:57

This could be so easily sorted - hands free phone call on the way to collect step son 'I'll be there in 10 mins he needs to be on the doorstep 100% ready to go otherwise I'll have to keep moving"

Sorted.

200+ posts and you quote the OP, just to give a piece of advice that is in the OP 🙄
I always let him know on the day too both earlier and 10 mins before we arrive.

YaMuvva · 10/04/2024 10:35

InterIgnis · 10/04/2024 10:33

Why? You limit your sympathy to your own kid, so what’s the problem OP limiting her sympathy to hers?

The poor burdened 12 year old wanted to play games knowing full well his stepmother was waiting in the car for him, so she quite reasonably left his actual parents to sort him out.

Because her SS is ‘hers’ by extension. HTH

he’s 12, bearing the brunt of his parents personal shit and he clearly needs more than an “I’m here now” text to help him along, and everyone is refusing. Poor fucking kid. No wonder he’d rather sit playing games than dealing with this crap

InterIgnis · 10/04/2024 10:37

YaMuvva · 10/04/2024 10:35

Because her SS is ‘hers’ by extension. HTH

he’s 12, bearing the brunt of his parents personal shit and he clearly needs more than an “I’m here now” text to help him along, and everyone is refusing. Poor fucking kid. No wonder he’d rather sit playing games than dealing with this crap

Nope, OP has no parental responsibility for him whatsoever.

She was doing them all a favour and he took the piss. That’s fine, his parents can sort him out in future, given they’re the ones actually responsible for him.

YaMuvva · 10/04/2024 10:38

Maray1967 · 10/04/2024 10:34

Sympathy? He’s a 12 year old gamer who needs to learn that he has to manage his time gaming. What is needed here is arse kicking. It isn’t easy as the games are designed to keep them on, but at 12 he is old enough to learn. I switch games off for meal times, music teacher, when we need to go out as a family. I give fair warning but off it goes if I’m ignored.

Yes he needs to manage his time gaming, definitely but children still need help with that and to expect him to behave IME someone much older with literally zero help or assistance is bonkers.

If the OP’s DH at the very least could grow up and have an adult conversation with the woman he bore a child with about “right let’s get this issue sorted as it’s impacting both of us now and in both or interests to sort” it would help matters loads. But no heaven forbid 2 adults speak to each other when they could put the onus on an actual child instead.

GabriellaMontez · 10/04/2024 10:38

No way would I have waited 20 minutes!

His parents are taking the piss treating you like a free taxi. Its clearly rubbed off on him as he is also totally disrespectful of you.

Blondiebeachbabe · 10/04/2024 10:40

I normally advocate for step children, as they didn't ask to be in a blended family situation, however, on this occasion you absolutely did the right thing.

Nazzywish · 10/04/2024 10:40

It sounds like it every time for no particular reason other than being rude. So well done. Rinse and repeat every time over 5 minutes pass. They'll soon all get the message and straighten up.

LizS16 · 10/04/2024 10:41

In my rush to vote I accidentally voted YABU, I absolutely do not mean that. I think you have been more than reasonable, I would have packed it all in much earlier.

His mum and he have treated you with zero respect and have taken your patience for granted. Well done to you for setting some boundaries.

YaMuvva · 10/04/2024 10:41

InterIgnis · 10/04/2024 10:37

Nope, OP has no parental responsibility for him whatsoever.

She was doing them all a favour and he took the piss. That’s fine, his parents can sort him out in future, given they’re the ones actually responsible for him.

It’s her stepson. Of course she has a responsibility to him FFS

To a child, a step parent picking them up as part of a custody arrangement is not doing a favour, they’re varying out their responsibilities.

I feel fucking terrible for SC who are seen as so low by people (not talking about OP but you)

That’s fine, his parents can sort him out in future, given they’re the ones actually responsible for him.

But they aren’t sorting him out. They can’t even communicate through his mum. It’s all through him - that’s a huge responsibility and OP and her DH and his ExW expect perfection from this child when it comes to arrangements

Notsureaboutittoday · 10/04/2024 10:42

GeorgesMarvelousCalpol · 10/04/2024 10:35

200+ posts and you quote the OP, just to give a piece of advice that is in the OP 🙄
I always let him know on the day too both earlier and 10 mins before we arrive.

She needs to call the mum not a 12 year old boy. They need to be adults even if they 'don't get on' and exchange numbers even if they only use it for this purpose.

Maray1967 · 10/04/2024 10:43

Yes, what any 12 year old kid who games needs is a parent who will turn the game off after a warning. This is not primarily an issue about whether he’s a step kid or not - it’s how some people parent over gaming. For whatever reason the mum isn’t willing to teach him some basic respect and manners. You should not allow your DC to keep gaming when they’re keeping people waiting. They do heed a warning - timescale given beforehand etc. But then parents need to step up and turn it off. Mine both learned that I would do it every time they ignored us.

chocolatesaltyballs22 · 10/04/2024 10:43

To a child, a step parent picking them up as part of a custody arrangement is not doing a favour, they’re varying out their responsibilities.

Oh, you mean that custody arrangement that the child's parents agreed before the stepmum even came on the scene? So unwittingly she inherits whatever agreement has already been made and has to suck it up because that's all part of the deal? Don't talk shit.

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InterIgnis · 10/04/2024 10:46

YaMuvva · 10/04/2024 10:41

It’s her stepson. Of course she has a responsibility to him FFS

To a child, a step parent picking them up as part of a custody arrangement is not doing a favour, they’re varying out their responsibilities.

I feel fucking terrible for SC who are seen as so low by people (not talking about OP but you)

That’s fine, his parents can sort him out in future, given they’re the ones actually responsible for him.

But they aren’t sorting him out. They can’t even communicate through his mum. It’s all through him - that’s a huge responsibility and OP and her DH and his ExW expect perfection from this child when it comes to arrangements

No, she really doesn’t. You’re of course free to think she does all you like, but it won’t change the actual facts of the matter. The kid has two parents, neither of which are OP.

She was doing them a favour in agreeing to pick him up. Recognising that isn’t considering stepchildren to be ‘low’.

“But they aren’t sorting him out. They can’t even communicate through his mum. It’s all through him - that’s a huge responsibility and OP and her DH and his ExW expect perfection from this child when it comes to arrangements”

That would be their problem then. Not OP’s.

InterIgnis · 10/04/2024 10:47

Notsureaboutittoday · 10/04/2024 10:42

She needs to call the mum not a 12 year old boy. They need to be adults even if they 'don't get on' and exchange numbers even if they only use it for this purpose.

No they don’t. Op doesn’t need to get involved at all.

WhereYouLeftIt · 10/04/2024 10:47

YaMuvva · 10/04/2024 10:07

Why not? They aren’t octopuses they’re only small children it’s not that difficult!

And those asking why - because she wants DSS to get out the door more quickly. Rightly or wrongly he’s taking too long so the logical answer would be too put pressure on by knocking on the door

Absolutely WRONGLY, he's taking too long; so the logical answer would be to teach him that his choice (to continue playing on his console when his siblings and stepmum are waiting outside for him) has CONSEQUENCES.

Knocking on the door (nope!) at best would get him to start moving now after his 20-minute show of disrespect, but would do nothing for the next time ... and the next ... and the next .... whereas refusing to put up with any more manufactured delay TODAY will focus the minds of the parents that they are responsible, and that it is time to shoulder their responsibilities.

Your suggestion that OP should get two very grumpy toddlers out of their car seats, knock on the door (would either stepson or his mother actually deign to come to the door?), wait again for stepson to get shoes on etc., wrestle the toddlers back into their seats (there's no way grumpy toddlers are getting back into that car without a fight!) - well, I very much doubt you've ever had two toddlers, to see that as a viable response.

YaMuvva · 10/04/2024 10:48

chocolatesaltyballs22 · 10/04/2024 10:43

To a child, a step parent picking them up as part of a custody arrangement is not doing a favour, they’re varying out their responsibilities.

Oh, you mean that custody arrangement that the child's parents agreed before the stepmum even came on the scene? So unwittingly she inherits whatever agreement has already been made and has to suck it up because that's all part of the deal? Don't talk shit.

How is that relevant? She came on the scene and presumably knew her DH had a SC and chose to inherent an agreement?

If the OP’s DH doesn’t even has his ex’s number and all the arrangements are made through the child, how did he do pick up when the child was very young? Did this 12yo have a phone as a toddler?

YaMuvva · 10/04/2024 10:49

InterIgnis · 10/04/2024 10:47

No they don’t. Op doesn’t need to get involved at all.

Of course she does it’s her SS not some random kid!

InterIgnis · 10/04/2024 10:49

YaMuvva · 10/04/2024 10:49

Of course she does it’s her SS not some random kid!

And again - no, no she does not.

chocolatesaltyballs22 · 10/04/2024 10:51

@YaMuvva well I expect she chose to marry her DH and I suspect her vows didn't say 'and I shall run around after your kids whenever you see fit even if they can't be arsed being ready on time because they're too busy playing Mario Kart'