To not get the hate thrown at EVs?

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We have an EV. We didn’t get it for environmental reasons, we got it because I have access to an EV lease scheme via work and it was the most cost effective way for us to get a new car. I don’t think I’m morally superior for having one. It serves us well, is nice to drive, and cheaper (for us) than running a petrol car.

What I don’t get is the visceral hatred some people have for them. I understand they aren’t for everyone, there are definite logistical challenges with on-street parking and long journeys particularly. However, I expect range and logistics to improve as time goes on. I also get that some car fans might find them a bit sanitised. But I don’t really get why some people are so viciously against them?

AIBU?

None of the anti EV people have countered my concern about air pollution of diesel cars.

Yeah. So that’s a bit more inconvenient for sure. Usually though there will be a charger on route or close to your destination. Our old EV takes around 50 mins for a full charge but some of
the new ones take just 20. In that situation I would plan a journey break to charge on the way there or back. I would use it to shop for a gift for my host, or have lunch or a coffee. We have at times used a ‘granny cable’ to plug in to socket at a friends house and given them money towards it.

If you google it you’ll find it. I don’t want to derail the thread 😊

I can vouch for them being moveable if the break down. Mechanical rather than EV related.

You can pick up a used EV for as little as £5000. 😊

@Colddespiteduvet how much would a new battery cost ? and how long do batteries last ? My last new battery for my car cost me £54 , the previous battery had done 125k.

No travel other than on foot is carbon free but the evidence is that EV, in the long run, is lower carbon than ICE.

Yep some people are really nuts about this.

Why anybody cares what anybody else drives is completely beyond me, but some people definitely see it as a “culture wars” issue, like people in Hull getting hysterical about the ULEZ extension in London.

I can vouch for them being moveable if the break down. Mechanical rather than EV related.

@Colddespiteduvet so as long as you have charge left then you can be recovered like anyone else ? if you don't do you need to be lifted onto a flat bed ?

Do you mean Luton Airport fire? That was caused by an ICE vehicle.

Oh. Just wait till you find out how many computers are in an IC vehicle.

Range is 130 (less in winter but not much different). Don’t think we lease the battery but it’s performing fine at the moment.

@Colddespiteduvet - and what range does that give you compared to a similarly priced diesel or petrol?

That I can’t tell you as we haven’t had to replace it. But I guess any car can go wrong in a very expensive way?

I’ve no idea. I’m not trying to sell one over the other. Just giving information from my experience. Take it or leave it 😊

Yup.

It would need to be winched the same as a normal car.

@polkadot24 if there is no charge left in the car the wheels lock so cannot be winched like a normal car ? Or maybe they can ? We got flatbedded back from holiday once and the recovery man regaled us with tales about how hard EV's are to recover compared to diesel/petrol cars.

Really hope you're not using a laptop/smartphone/pc to post on here, what with your anti rare earth stance.

And as a slight derail, mining uses about 0.1% of habitable land, agriculture on the other hand takes up around 44% and is the leading cause of habitat destruction and deforestation.

Is it electric cars people hate, or just oversized cars?

We have a full ev and a diesel hybrid. The only thing I hate about the ev is the range. It barely goes anywhere.

Some people hate oversized cars, some hate EVs. Some hate both!

There are a few petrol cars that you don't pay road tax on, I have one, they are mainly from 2015 and 2016, not sure why the government decided on no tax for these, it's never been changed though, I still pay no tax. I think EVs will pay tax from next year

Weirdly my old diesel car was just £20 a year car tax, my newer unleaded is £180 a year. I think the car tax system probably needs updating. Unless diesel cars are less polluting ?

My diesel is £35 a year tax. When I got it the govt were pushing diesel cars. IIRC they’re better for the environment than petrol which is why they were promoted. But they’ve now realised they’re worse for peoples health. So whether diesel is in favour over petrol depends on govt policies I guess.

Yep. That’s what happened. Not a problem really. Well any more that a breakdown in any car.