Peter Andre on GB News

[Laughattheloons]

This has thrown me. I’ve just seen a TikTok about it. Obviously not a Peter fan but always just assumed he was a decent good guy. Clearly not. I can never ironic Mysterious Girl again

But we all know that Governments both Labour and Conservatives don't do half of what they propose in their manifestos so it's not as black and white as you're trying to make out.

Ah because you never insult people. Of course.

They're not reporting that anti-abortion groups backed by US evangelicals have access to our government. How is that good?

So true. They can't discuss, they can only instruct in dogma.

But he really really really loves his kids? Didn’t you know that?! 🤣

Well it's not very productive, is it?
I didn't say no one does it but certainly it's not something we should be saying is desirable.

Also I mainly use mumsnet and insults aren't allowed. I certainly don't call my friends names in real life because they disagree

Only because of their biological sex. Which is fine, as I'm a man and therefore benefit from our patriarchal society and the institutional and social structures that support it, so it doesn't do me any harm.

Which is broadly the same argument for why gammon isn't racist, sexist or problematic in any way other than deflecting from the real issue.

Simon Evans.

The term ‘gammon’ is racist, sexist and ageist since it’s an insult directed at middle aged white men. The oh so tolerant left doesn’t demonstrate much in the way of tolerance when they have to resort to silly name calling.

When did I say it was desirable?

Precisely.

Give me a break. White men are not the minority.

Because it denotes a reactionary political position and 'little englander' attitude.

Good grief what a ludicrous thread this is! Started by someone who is horrified that PA has a show on GB News. How very DARE he? And let's not forget the irony of her seeing this on that excellent source of reliable news - TikTok!

We seem to have become stupidly tribal in this country and purity spiralling abounds. If you read this, watch this, vote this way I cannot ever speak with you again! Whatever happened to intelligent debate or critical thinking?

For what it's worth I do watch Free Speech Nation on Sunday evenings because Andrew Doyle is doing sterling work exposing the horrors of gender ideology and it's impact on women and vulnerable children - no other channel is covering this and it is a HUGE scandal! BBC? Crickets.

I will engage with people from all walks of life and with a huge variety of opinions - that's what human beings used to do and it's glorious. I agree with some, disagree with some but would never be so infantile that I would not speak with someone because they were right wing/left wing or voted for Brexit or sent their child to private school or whatever else it is that people are so ridiculously tribal about.

Grow up and debate rather than hurling stupid insults - gammon, cunt, terf whatever - all that means is that you have run out of intelligent things to say.

I’ve not seen anything recently but I’ve watched old clips from his and KP’s series, people often think she was the problem but looking back he was awful to her!

I never got why people liked Andre!

What in the name of all that's holy has that got to do with anything? Are you seriously saying that because a group of people aren't a minority it's fine to label them with insulting slurs?

Made no sense.

They're not reporting that anti-abortion groups backed by US evangelicals have access to our government. How is that good?

So your point isn't that they support anti-abortion, just that they don't report on everything you want? Clues In the name GB news. Dont they focus on UK debates? Since you're a regular, probably best placed to answer.

I can't see how they're extreme right when they're not anti abortion.

Racism isn’t about petty insults directed at the group in power.

Oh wow. I fired a quick post off before bed and looks like the earlier people who declared ‘no-one cares’ were wrong 😑

Obviously can’t answer all questions, but a few

• It’s ‘obvious’ I’m not a PA fan or I would have know. Not complicated!
• I’ve never watched GB News but know who owns it, have seen what is discussed on there, who the hosts are and the recent rulings from OFCOM about breaking impartiality guidelines.
• I’ve never suggested GB News shouldn’t exist. I’d like it not to exist because no-one buys in to its rubbish but Hey Ho. What I WOULD like is it to follow the broadcasting rules
• I don’t get my news from TikTok. I log in about once a month and last night happened to see a stupid clip from PA and his (I assume) co-host doing a stupid dance. Then I realised it was from GB News.
• I interviewed Holly Valance way back in the day and she was a blank vacant space. Guess that’s space has been filled with fascist misogynistic nonsense now.

Insults land differently when aimed at a privileged group. If you belong to a disadvantaged group insults can be incredibly harmful because they bolster existing prejudices, bias and add to a culture of continuing harm against that group.

So you do think it's fine to label a particular group with insulting slurs. Interesting. Thanks for admitting it.

I think it is disappointing, but Andre will sign up for anything to make a dollar.

They have discussed the US abortion issue.