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Peter Andre on GB News

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Laughattheloons · 06/04/2024 23:17

This has thrown me. I’ve just seen a TikTok about it. Obviously not a Peter fan but always just assumed he was a decent good guy. Clearly not. I can never ironic Mysterious Girl again

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MeDaughterMerope · 07/04/2024 10:15

AdamRyan · 07/04/2024 10:13

😂
I'd say what's turning this country into an "unrecognisable mess" partly is the current trend for trying to apply American-isms to British politics. They are very different. We don't really have "liberalism" in the same way the US does.

No but it has been imported in the last decade. Hence right wing being a slur. Broadly British politics are central but by important extreme left wing there is a fringe of right wing who feels stifled developing.

Elber · 07/04/2024 10:15

@Underthinker

I don’t it’s a case for censorship. I think it’s a case for considering the advantages/disadvantages of free speech.
Rather than being ‘dismissive’. Which - as a term in itself - could be seen as a shut down! Or assuming the poster is advocating censorship…

MeDaughterMerope · 07/04/2024 10:18

Sillypede · 07/04/2024 10:14

I do have some sympathy for your views, and as a middle aged, white, working-class man, I thank you for your concern, but nobody ever chased me down the street shouting gammon at me, or painted gammon on my front door, I've not encountered gangs out gammon bashing or had bacon pushed through my letter box.

So because it's online makes it ok?
Cyber bullying is not ok.

White and working class are just facts. Not credentials. Just because you have a working class background does not mean you don't have to listen to alternative viewpoints.

Although as a man that may be something you don't often heat.

Interesting you ignored the literacy element of my post though.

Pickledf · 07/04/2024 10:18

Sillypede · 07/04/2024 09:41

No it isn't. Racist words have the power of systems of control and the weight of wider injustices behind them. Old white men (and I am one) aren't a race.

It's a bit worrying that in 2024 there are still people who can't understand what racism is.

They don’t want to understand unfortunately

They are the definition of ignorance

AdamRyan · 07/04/2024 10:20

MeDaughterMerope · 07/04/2024 10:15

No but it has been imported in the last decade. Hence right wing being a slur. Broadly British politics are central but by important extreme left wing there is a fringe of right wing who feels stifled developing.

"Right wing" is not a slur, how ridiculous. 😂

Anyway, you might find this thread interesting.

Key chart: UK Cons are way more liberal than US Reps on ~every measure.

On some issues, British Conservatives are even more liberal than US Democrats, such as on whether being Christian matters to being truly British/American, and — related — whether abortion is justifiable.

The British right is a million miles from the American Christian right.

https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1662061344814768129?lang=en-GB

https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1662061344814768129?lang=en-GB

Pickledf · 07/04/2024 10:21

MarjorieOsborne · 07/04/2024 09:26

The only people who use the term 'gammon' tend to be a certain type of person… baa 🐑🙄

Oooh don’t be a racist, calling me a sheep is so racist

MeDaughterMerope · 07/04/2024 10:22

Erm I'm pretty sure that's what I said. Or are you trying to say the uk is less likely to support abortion than the UK. That's patiently not true.

Pickledf · 07/04/2024 10:22

User135644 · 07/04/2024 09:06

Who cares if he's left wing or not?

The person claiming he was left wing I assume

Always handy to read the context of replies before looking a bit stupid

poppyslashtulip · 07/04/2024 10:22

SweetFemaleAttitude · 06/04/2024 23:30

Why did you think he was a decent human being 🤣🤣?

He is an absolute loser brought back from the brink of obscurity, by latching himself to Katie price, then subsequently treating her like a piece of shit with his constant gaslighting and emotional abuse.

Then gets with a woman nearly 20 years younger than him.

Yes, what a lovely guy 🙄

🙌

inamarina · 07/04/2024 10:25

cariadlet · 07/04/2024 01:26

This is the kind of rude, patronising crap that enabled Brexiteers to portray Remainers as out of touch, elitist snobs.

I say that as someone who voted Remain, was on the massive pro-EU London march and now sees myself as a Rejoiner.

Absolutely agree with this. I’m an EU citizen and was pro-remain, even though I didn’t have a vote.
Childish name calling of people who have different opinions doesn’t help anyone.

AdamRyan · 07/04/2024 10:26

MeDaughterMerope · 07/04/2024 10:22

Erm I'm pretty sure that's what I said. Or are you trying to say the uk is less likely to support abortion than the UK. That's patiently not true.

To be honest I'm finding your posts a bit hard to follow. Confused

ABirdsEyeView · 07/04/2024 10:27

I guess Holly Valance thinks that Liz Truss is awesome because she's rich enough not to have to live with the fallout of that disastrous budget!

MeDaughterMerope · 07/04/2024 10:27

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GoodfortheGoose · 07/04/2024 10:27

Oooh don’t be a racist, calling me a sheep is so racist

You'd honestly have more credence if you didn't die on the hill of using 'gammon' as an insult.

Gammon is/was funny because it described something we could relate to from seeing a certain kind of person acting a certain way. And yes, it directly relates to race and class, and is to some degree racist. No point playing dumb.

MeDaughterMerope · 07/04/2024 10:27

Twaw not twat obviously.

Elber · 07/04/2024 10:33

So are we trying to censor the word ‘gammon’ or allow it under free speech?

LoveSandbanks · 07/04/2024 10:33

MyWyndolynne · 06/04/2024 23:27

Oh you don't like the news outlet so him hosting on it makes you hate him

Rigghhtt 🙄

It’s GB News, ultra right wing channel. I don’t see anything unreasonable about having people who are prepared to support it.

dollybird · 07/04/2024 10:34

AdamRyan · 07/04/2024 00:38

Real life actual women are called Karen, while no-one is called Gammon? (Unless they have very cruel parents)

Real life people aren't called the n word or the p word either, but they're still offensive

TinaYouFatLard · 07/04/2024 10:34

I’ve just switched it on and that right wing, facist gammon, Julie Bindel is being interviewed.

Shabnamsshoos · 07/04/2024 10:35

Sillypede · 07/04/2024 09:41

No it isn't. Racist words have the power of systems of control and the weight of wider injustices behind them. Old white men (and I am one) aren't a race.

It's a bit worrying that in 2024 there are still people who can't understand what racism is.

Well said. And it’s not even as if the term “gammon” is given and applied indiscriminately to any white old men. It’s given to a certain subsection of frothy raging intolerant ones.

And ironically many of them would happily call a lot of POC or young people “woke” in a negative use of the word but far be it for anyone to label them back. That’s not allowed 😅

Mumsgirls · 07/04/2024 10:36

I first came across gammon as an insult in Dickens, so no not an American import

HebburnPokemon · 07/04/2024 10:37

Sad to see PA is using GBeebies as an outlet for his midlife crisis.

MeDaughterMerope · 07/04/2024 10:38

Mumsgirls · 07/04/2024 10:36

I first came across gammon as an insult in Dickens, so no not an American import

I don't think anyone said it was. It's questioning some of the imported American ideals that will get you called a gammon though, like women don't have penises. Not progressive see.

Pickledf · 07/04/2024 10:39

AdamRyan · 07/04/2024 10:24

I don't know what's going on with these Aussies. Never mind Peter Andre, Holly Valance thinks Liz Truss is awesome and backs JRM for prime minister Shock

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/holly-valance-criticises-leftie-ideas-and-backs-jacob-rees-mogg-for-pm-13066014

Yeah listening to some excerpts from a recent interview from Holly was terrifying.

Saying how bad it was for Andrew Tate to be locked up, and calling Greta a demonic troll or something like that - no a gremlin.

Not sure how it can ever be a good look to defend Tate and demonise Greta