Reporting someone about having no TV LIcence?

[WhiteDragon66]

At the moment I am living in an HMO. I have lived here for coming up to three years now.
I have a licence. However I have noticed that two of the residents within the household have been receiving letters from TV LIcensing for quite a long time now.
There are six of us all together living here. I think that I am the only one who is licensed though?
Would I be right in reporting just these two individuals, do you think, or should I just simply ignore this??
Any feedback would be really very helpful. Thank you.

Yes it is

“Perhaps most shockingly, TV licensing offences disproportionately involve women, who in 2019 made up a whopping 74% of people convicted of non-payment in the UK – though only 49% of licence holders are women.

Take Amina. APPEAL, the legal charity I work for, represented Amina in her TV licensing case. She was deeply anxious after being threatened with prosecution in 2019. Amina and her husband were moving cities while she was heavily pregnant and in and out of hospital. Paying the TV licence at their new property slipped their minds.
When a TV licence officer came to the front door, she explained that her husband was in charge of arranging the payment. Her husband even spoke over the phone to the officer while he was on the doorstep to confirm this, and he paid for a new licence under his name immediately. A few weeks later Amina received a letter saying she was being prosecuted for watching TV without a valid licence. Despite her husband having paid, the officer had opened a new licence fee account in Amina’s name without consulting her.”

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/5050/why-are-women-being-disproportionately-penalised-tv-license-non-payment/

She shouldn't have opened the door or engaged with then in an any way .

They might not nee a licence. I’ve not got one because I don’t watch live tv or iPlayer.

Wow just keep your nose out of it

I'm very aware of the statistics which is why I was very confident in my response.

Like I said, what you said is not true. Because it isn't.

Here's your post:

"bellezarara · Yesterday 21:44

No, don’t report them. Women are already disproportionately targeted for legal action for license fee evasion, don’t add to the sexism"

You said women are disproportionately targeted. No they are not.

Women are disproportionately effected because of societal reasons. Low income, single mothers etc. Which the government and BBC are well aware of are discussing how to address that.

But women are not disproportionately targeted, because there's no way for that the TV licencing system can target anyone, regardless of sex.

They identify people who aren't paying and issue fines.

And you can't go to prison for not having a TV licence but you can for not paying the fines and in that case men disproportionately go to prison for not paying the fines because more women are issued with them and don't go to prison because there are more government schemes to help women, particularly mothers and courts are more disinclined to imprison Women, particularly women with children.

So yes, you were wrong again, in saying women were targeted and that it is sexism as sexism is disadvantage based on sex.

Women aren't targeted for TV licencing prosecutions and it isn't sexism.

There are just more women prosecuted because more women are prosecuted/co-operate with prosecution for the offence and if they don't pay the fines, they are actually likely to benefit from being women as men are more likely to be imprisoned.

HTH.

It’s possible women are more likely to feel pressured by a TV licensing inspector to allow them into their home and accept a penalty than men?

As the pp above says- In their case they flatly refused to let an inspector in and were assertive enough to argue that they were not watching live TV- thus weren’t penalised.

Women are more conditioned (?) to be agreeable and simply accept a penalty perhaps.

When I had a TVL guy visit my home I felt quite intimidated and he refused to listen to my reasons for not having a license.

Keep your nose out and don’t be a snitch! Worry about your own business, or things that impact you.

this doesn’t concern you.

Yes! Women are more likely to be prosecuted because they are a) more likely to commit the offence because of societal reasons like low income and poverty as single mothers or low income wage earners.

But also more likely to co-operate/admit fault due to other societal reasons.

Which the government and the BBC are considering in their discussions around the disparity in prosecution for TV licencing evasion.

Which is not the same as previous posters said, that women are disproportionately targeted and that being evidence of systemic sexism.

And is not the same as the idea perpetuated that low income vulnerable women are at risk of, or routinely being imprisoned for not having a TV licence because that isn't happening.

The example I gave you shows how women are targeted.

HTH.

And if you think the government and the BBC are going to address it then you’re living in cloud cuckoo land, love.

You don't have to give any reasons, just don't engage with them at all
Or don't answer the door.

@bellezarara

its a HMO very very few will be female only as the owners let the rooms out individually. Unconcerned with what the tenants would like.

its ridiculous that some people turn everything into sexism.

Women are already disproportionately targeted for legal action for license fee evasion, don’t add to the sexism

that's a pile of nonsense.

@bellezarara

tgats ONE case. That doesn't make it women being disproportionately targeted.

You really don’t know that, you’ve just made your own shit up.

Statistics tell the truth.

The whole bloody TV licensing enforcement sounds like a shambles anyway regardless of whether it’s sex discriminatory.

Lots of people on here have found loopholes to avoid it or simply cancel it because they don’t watch BBC or BBCiplayer.

I was told by an inspector that if I had any device that could access the internet in my home then I could potentially be watching BBC streamed programmes. (?)

I was forced to pay yet other people are allowed to cancel their licences? Where’s the continuity or fair treatment?

The whole archaic idea of a license for a TV should have been scrapped years ago.

It can’t be regulated or policed with any accuracy clearly!

No it didn't. At all.

it demonstrated that women are disproportionately effected, it didn't demonstrate that women are targeted.

Do you not understand how society works?

Do you not realise correlation is very different to causation?.

And what targeted means?

And what sexism means.

Please, please explain how you think what you said provides evidence that women are targeted by TV licencing prosecutions and how that is evidence of sexism because it isn't.

And I didn't claim that the BBC or the government would solve it or be particularly invested in doing so, just that they identified it was a complex issue which really isn't about what you're saying which is a nonsense idea that the BBC licencing system is deliberately targeting women because of sexism against women

That's just daft and apparently that's what you think?

But please provide me with evidence that the TV licencing system is targeting women because it isn't.

It doesn't GAF about who is fined, they just care about the money.

None of your business.

Weell the inspector was lying to you ,why did you engage with them?

Ignore. It’s a mean-spirited, snitchy thing to report them.

Why would you? Maybe they don’t even watch it.

I don’t have one any longer. I don’t want to pay opinionated BBC presenter salaries so I don’t. There is nothing to miss, tbh.

Why would you grass someone up for not having a tv licence it’s hardly crime of the century and it doesn’t effect you in any way ..have a word with yourself 🤔

It’s not nonsense. It’s well known that the TV Licensing authorities are run by vile misogynists. They deliberately target women because they are more likely to pay the fines. Apparently they have a machine that shows how often a particular TV is tuning into Loose Women and Married at First Sight and they prioritise those for enforcement action.

Why would you report someone for having no TV license? Doesn't affect you in any way. Bit pathetic to be contemplating it imo.

It seems so! I was concerned I’d be prosecuted I suppose.The inspector went into an official sounding spiel about the risk of fine or prosecution at the door.

I’m going to look more carefully into whether I need one or not. Thank you 😊