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10 year old alone after school?

309 replies

Picklelicklemk · 03/04/2024 15:46

In a bit of a pickle. Our DC becomes too old for a local nursery we use for after school in a couple of months. I don't finish work until 5pm and home for 5.30pm.

School finishes at 3.15pm what am I supposed to do to bridge the gap? Is 10 too young to be alone? DC is fairly sensible and trustworthy but just seems so young!

No family or friends we can rely on.

What do other people do for after school care when their DC hit this age? TIA

OP posts:
Mexicola · 07/04/2024 17:48

My daughter is the same age as yours - year 5 but 11 in September. We are trying her at home alone on Tuesday after school for the first time.

DragonFly98 · 07/04/2024 18:37

Soontobe60 · 07/04/2024 15:13

In my primary school, if we knew that a child was being left alone for 2 hours every night after school we would be concerned.
You mention not being able to leave a vulnerable adult alone - I assume that’s your job? But neither should you leave a vulnerable child alone for that length of time. You also say ‘we’. Again I assume there is a DP/H around that can also contribute to childcare costs?

And SS would completely ignore your "concerns".

Kalevala · 07/04/2024 18:57

Westfacing · 03/04/2024 17:59

It's not the going home alone that would worry me - presumably parents assess the risk regarding distance, route, personality etc.

Young children really don't like letting themselves into an empty house and then fending for themselves for a couple of hours - it's lonely, particularly if they have to do it every day, not just the occasional one-off.

We aren't talking about young children though, we are talking about older children. Mine was happy to be home for a couple of hours, he read, did any homework or played on the PC with a friend. He was allowed a friend from our street over from age 10.

Redridinghood2 · 07/04/2024 19:04

titchy · 03/04/2024 15:56

And no you cannot leave them to get themselves home and then be left alone for two hours. Childminder, nanny, babysitter, change hours at work, leave early, work from home. All options working parents of year 5 kids have to use. Fending for themselves is neglect. Quite shocked you have to ask tbh.

Bloody hell, calm down Esther Rantzen

batterypark · 07/04/2024 19:21

As a childminder I am horrified that a cm in a small village is charging £16 per hour! £5-6 is the average here. If I knew a cm was rinsing parents like that for afterschool care I’d be appalled. I do after school until 530 for £12 with a hot dinner. It sounds a very hard situation. Do you have any neighbours who would keep an eye on your child? Could they catch a bus to your workplace and wait?

Daisyblue77 · 07/04/2024 19:38

After school club. Or childminders do after school care

Daisyblue77 · 07/04/2024 19:40

Picklelicklemk · 03/04/2024 15:52

Thanks sorry typo 10 will be 11 in September. Childminder is not feasible as the only one in the area charges extortionate amounts and over the week it would eat away at the little I earn.

Are you claiming benefits as you can claim childcare back, i dint see you have much choice as they are too young to be left alone, or find a babysitter

Baba197 · 07/04/2024 19:40

Is there an after school wrap around care or clubs they could go to? Any friends of hers at school who may be happy to have her at theirs after school and you can pay them back by helping them out other times by babysitting or days out in the school hols? If not then I’d look for a childminder who does pick ups from school or a secondary school pupil who perhaps lives locally and would be happy to earn a bit of cash collecting and staying until you get home. Maybe ask on a local Facebook page

Daisyblue77 · 07/04/2024 19:44

Picklelicklemk · 03/04/2024 15:59

Living in a small village with very limited options it's hardly easy, certainly can't just cut my hours short leaving a vulnerable adult alone because it suits me 🙄

But you are considering leaving a vunerable child alone? Strange priorities

Daisyblue77 · 07/04/2024 19:46

titchy · 03/04/2024 16:07

certainly can't just cut my hours short leaving a vulnerable adult alone because it suits me

It's not 'because it suits you', it's because you are a parent. Responsible for a young child. Hmm

and shes considering leaving that child alone but cant the adult

Daisyblue77 · 07/04/2024 19:48

Simonjt · 03/04/2024 16:17

Our eight year old walks home alone and is home alone until we get home which ranges from about 30-180 minutes. Its fine, he makes himself a snack and drink, watches a bit of TV, plays lego etc if he hasn’t gone to the park with friends on the way home.

Can you work on a get home routine if there aren’t any after school clubs etc?

this us disgusting. Even worse hes allowed to fo to the park with freinds.

Kalevala · 07/04/2024 19:49

Daisyblue77 · 07/04/2024 19:44

But you are considering leaving a vunerable child alone? Strange priorities

Have they said the child is vulnerable for their age, do they have SEN or another vulnerability? Many adults are less able to be left alone than an older child.

Shortstufflady · 07/04/2024 19:49

Surprised you say a childminder is too expensive. I charge £4 an hour for after schools, plus with tax free childcare you get 20% off. That’s not an extortionate amount for peace of mind and your child’s safety.

NoisySnail · 07/04/2024 19:50

10 year old children can be left alone in circumstances that vulnerable adults can not be. A 10 year old can get snacks and water from the fridge, go to the toilet and not do anything dangerous. Some vulnerable adults can not even wipe their own saliva away from their mouth.
To equate a 10 year old with a vulnerable adult is nonsense.

Kalevala · 07/04/2024 19:53

Daisyblue77 · 07/04/2024 19:46

and shes considering leaving that child alone but cant the adult

We don't know this adult's needs. A family member needs to keep the house locked and the gas hot water permanently off for her partner's safety. He has the care needs of a toddler.

NoisySnail · 07/04/2024 20:00

I looked after an adult with motor neurone disease who intellectually was fine, but could not do anything for herself. She could not be left alone or she could have choked to death. She needed far more care than a 10 year old child does.

Daisyblue77 · 07/04/2024 20:04

Picklelicklemk · 03/04/2024 20:19

When you take into consideration I work for minimum wage, £11.44 an hour. I do a 7 hour shift, the childminder, and I must stress the only registered childminder in the area that would offer a school pick up, is £16 per hour with a minimum of a 3 hour block booking. This coupled with the fact I travel 30 minutes each way to work and pay national insurance on top of my wage it comes out around £30 for a 7 hour shift. So yes I am really the monster considering trusting my child to fend for themselves for an hour or so to avoid working for peanuts, we are on the breadline as it is.

Your saying you are only £30 better off working a 7 hours shift? Surely your childs safety is worth more that £30. And no childminder charges £16 an a hour she would have no one use her. Usually its about £15-£20
for after school
care

AgileMentor · 07/04/2024 20:05

Are there any after school clubs they could go to so they are only home for a short amount of time?

Kalevala · 07/04/2024 20:08

Daisyblue77 · 07/04/2024 20:04

Your saying you are only £30 better off working a 7 hours shift? Surely your childs safety is worth more that £30. And no childminder charges £16 an a hour she would have no one use her. Usually its about £15-£20
for after school
care

Children need money for food, clothing, activities and experiences in line with the accepted norm for their community. They also need to learn independence and responsibility.

MuggleMe · 07/04/2024 20:20

Are there not clubs run by the secondary school? Ours has a homework club and lots of extra curriculars that run after school for an hour, so he'd get home what 4.45ish?

PoppyCherryDog · 07/04/2024 20:46

From year 7 I was home alone with my brother after school. It’s only a year younger than I was so I’d say if they’re sensible then it’s fine.

Frangipanyoul8r · 07/04/2024 21:15

@Simonjt why on earth are you frequently leaving your 8 year old alone like that?!! Dear lord.

Duechristmas · 07/04/2024 21:40

Childminders may also offer flexi care to bridge the gap between support and independence. That's where the child has a place but it's their choice whether they use it and the cm is the first point of contact between 3-5 rather than calling mum.

Another arrangement would be sharing care with another parent who needed support eg you do the breakfast and they do the after school care.

Also could you pay or recompense a parent on a casual basis just until the end of the school year? Some parents appreciate a little extra income.

Victoria3010 · 07/04/2024 21:54

I think if you did this you'd want to give them a phone and be able to be contacted/to contact them whilst they were alone - does your role allow that? If not I'd be worried he would need to contact you and not be able to. I would also see if school have any after school clubs so he gets an extra hour of adult supervision before getting home or maybe an arrangement with a friend/school friends mum, that they keep an eye on him walking home, or once a week he goes there for a play/dinner for a little bit of cash maybe? I think at that age some kids are fine (mine wouldn't be, he'd lose his key, get scared, accidentally break something, forget how to make a snack etc but he is neurodiverse which has an impact) but you might just want to break his week up a bit and put some safety measures in place so it's less of a shock to the system... it depends how they feel about it too and if they feel OK with it

Isthisit22 · 07/04/2024 21:58

No, far too young. Even a Year 6 left alone every night after school is a bit sad tbh