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Brother is blackmailing me. wwyd?

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Polishedshoesalways · 03/04/2024 13:24

My brother and I grew up in the 70s, this is relevant because he says our childhood is ‘normal’ and ‘fine’ and just like everyone else’s childhood at that time.

To be clear my father hit my mother, and was very violent from my earliest memory. He would lock me in the loft, or stand over me pummelling my body with his fists as a very young child. He would fly into a temper at the slightest provocation, and we all lived in total fear of him. The police and neighbours came to our house on more than a few occasions.

My father said repeatedly that he never wanted kids, and we didn’t have a relationship at all as we grew up. He hated spending any time with us. We spent most of our childhood trying to stay safe and avoid his violent outbursts.

I developed anorexia as a teenager due to his unkind comments about my body, and later tried to commit suicide because I found it hard to imagine continuing and I could see no way out. I recovered in time and grew into an healthy (ish) happy (ish) adult, and made a life for myself.

Fast forward to now I have had extensive and very helpful therapy for a few years, and after my father started to make my own children cry by humiliating them and calling them horrible names, I finally found the courage to cut contact with him.

My psychotherapist at the time said he is unwilling and unable to change and I must prioritise my dc. I understood I could not allow my dc to suffer in the same way I did. It hurt so much, but I took the decision to keep them safe from him.

My brother stopped talking to me around this time. He said I am being ‘cruel’ to my father by refusing to see him. That he is getting older and cutting him off is unforgivable of me. I am evil apparently.

I have now lost almost all of my family. My mother barely keeps in contact bar a daily text and I occasionally visit her alone or with dc. My brother continues to abuse me by email saying he ‘hates’ me and why can’t I just ‘put up with it’. My aunt now has family gatherings but doesn’t invite us.

I am being made to feel like the unreasonable person here, despite my therapists and my dh and all of my friends saying what happened to me is child abuse.

It’s been such a high price to pay to keep my children safe, and I feel broken by my brother’s relentless efforts to emotionally blackmail me into contact with my father (my abuser) or he will continue to ignore me as he has done for the last few years. My brother has given me an ultimatum- accept my father back into mine and my children’s life or be exiled by the whole family basically. I do not want any contact with father, my brother disregards this.

My mother has enabled all of this, but I see her as a victim of DV although he doesn’t hit her anymore - he is cruel in other ways, she has said she will never leave him. So she has made her choice, and it’s to stay with him.

What would you do?

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Polishedshoesalways · 03/04/2024 17:30

I feel very sad for the other posters on here that have had similar experiences and sadness to live with. All most of us ever wanted was to feel loved and cared for. It’s not to be.

I feel hope looking at younger generations that are being raised without physical violence and are respectful of other people’s bodies and well being. It seems capital punishment is working its way out of our society slowly. Slapping and hitting dc is no longer acceptable. My grandchildren if I am lucky enough to have them, and yours, stand a much better chance of being safe in childhood. Their little bodies cared for and respected. They will have dignity. I have done my best to break the cycle of trauma and to allow future generations to flourish. My grandmother made her own sacrifices for us in the war.

i feel so much stronger after reading this thread. Like I can carry on. Keep going.

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takemeawayagain · 03/04/2024 17:32

Horrible, horrible people OP. You can't save your mum but you can save yourself and your kids. You need to block you brother and never have anything to do with him again.

Fannyfiggs · 03/04/2024 17:33

I'm so sad for you @Polishedshoesalways, your situation is heartbreaking and I'm so so sorry you're still going through it.

I don't think I have anything else to say that hasn't already been said.

Block your brother, don't ever see your father again and keep contact with your mum. You don't have to go to your father's funeral when it happens and don't feel guilty about it.

AmaryllisChorus · 03/04/2024 17:33

I'd do what you have done. You are phenomenally brave. It is the right decision. You know your children are better off without extended family than with brutal, cruel extended family. You are protecting them. I once walked in on my father smacking my son. They were never left alone together again. People thought I overreacted. I didn't. He was nowhere near as awful as your father, so I did continue contact with my parents but it was minimal - we focused on building a strong relationship with DH's more loving family.

Block your brother.

Continue to text your mum daily if you want to - don't allow the men to dictate who you are allowed to speak to. But be prepared for her to stop getting in touch as she is clearly still bullied and controlled by them.

JJathome · 03/04/2024 17:34

I took a different view, I went no contact with them. All, even the ones who didn’t know, because they should have cared enough to know. To spot the signs. And I told everyone, I very open about it. It is their shame, not mine,I see no reason to lie to protect them. Nor should you.

only go to the funeral if you need closure. Past that don’t put yourself through it, you’re a survivor. You don’t owe them anything. And I’m afraid that includes your mother, who knew before she even had you what she was bringing you into. She was not always broken.

for the life of me, I can never understand how someone can hurt a child, never mind their own, or stand and watch while someone else does. Having been that child and now a parent, it’s something I can never ever accept

your brother, like mine, is what his parents made him. A cycle started and it continues.

Universalsnail · 03/04/2024 17:35

Honestly. I would cut them all off. Your father abused you. Your mother enabled his abuse by staying in that situation. Your brother is abusing you now.

It's painful but I would pull the plug on them all and keep your child away from all of them

ARichtGoodDram · 03/04/2024 17:39

Polishedshoesalways · 03/04/2024 17:06

For those asking - I only remain in contact with my mother. My brother I haven’t heard from in years up until the last few days. It is linked I imagine to my fathers ill health and he expects me to ‘step up’

I have no contact with my father.
I am on Christmas and birthday card terms with my aunt. The rest of the family have now died.

I have never been able to imagine not attending their funerals to now. It is just unheard of, and I imagine being forced into making a speech about my father and genuinely feeling sick at the thought of what I could possibly say.

I would like to never see my brother again. That scenario gives me relief. The idea that this might all end one day gives me immense relief now I think about it.

My father said he wished I had died after my failed suicide attempt, I think that has always stayed with me. He meant every word.

Edited

Some well meaning people almost persuaded me to go to my father’s funeral. They were genuinely worried I may regret it.

I didn’t go. I don’t regret it for a second.

The man whose funeral it was that day meant nothing to me. He was a nasty, vicious bully who used his addictions as an excuse for his evilness (lots of people tried to excuse him because of this but he was abusive before he was addicted).

My dad. The man I created in my head. The kind man who smiled when I achieved in school, who told me he loved me and was proud of me when I went to uni, who stuck up for me to other kids when they picked on me:.. that man I mourned many years ago when I accepted that he never existed and I’d never had a dad.

PeachBlossom1234 · 03/04/2024 17:40

Someone once said to me that when families work they’re amazing but when they don’t they’re really bad and unless you’re in it you can’t understand how awful it is.

I didn’t speak to my mother for 10 years before she died and please let me tell you that they were probably the most peaceful I’ve ever had. I have zero regrets. Please block them all and concentrate on the family you have created - they need you to be the parent you should have had.

LampShadeTaj · 03/04/2024 17:40

It would be more difficult to maintain the contact. You’re doing the right thing protecting yourself and your kids. What would you advise someone in your shoes?

ARichtGoodDram · 03/04/2024 17:41

One of the things I’m most proud of is that a paternal relative of my daughters tried to bully them into something and they both said “Erm no. We’ll not be buying into the emotional blackmail.” Without any hesitation.

I broke the circle. You can do the same for your kids.

anxioussister · 03/04/2024 17:44

Crabs in a bucket - they want to pull you back in because your absence / speaking the truth is unsettling to their shared illusion.

You being able to see what is happening is so much of your battle already won. You’re having therapy, you have a dialogue with your husband about this + you know you want to protect your children. You seem enormously self aware + motivated to work to find the right path - this is badass (technical psychological term…)

The pain of ‘loosing’ your family needs to be reframed as being abandoned by your family. You have been wronged - you are NOT WRONG.

Please find support + focus on building your chosen family.

Sending all power + grit as you navigate the way ahead. No easy routes - but the blue sky on the other side of the pain of letting go will be worth the bravery it takes to fight through

you have got this.

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lovescats3 · 03/04/2024 17:48

Block your brother
Enjoy the life you've built for yourself

MeridianB · 03/04/2024 17:49

DyddDewiSant · 03/04/2024 13:26

Block your brother.
Leave them all to it.
Walk away and enjoy your life.

First post nails it.

Don’t look back. You are wise enough now to know that your brother is emotionally blackmailing you and all that this means. He is not someone who brings good into your life. He could have chosen a different way to approach his relationship with you, but he is showing you who he is. You don’t have to have a relationship with him just because he’s blood.

Keep protecting yourself and your children and making brilliant progress towards happiness in life. 🌺

TeaGinandFags · 03/04/2024 17:51

DyddDewiSant · 03/04/2024 13:26

Block your brother.
Leave them all to it.
Walk away and enjoy your life.

This

They made or let your father make your life a misery and have started on the hext generation: your dc.

When you stand up they use guilt to keep you as their punch bag.

Do you want your dc to go through what you went through? I thought not.

Cut all contact and ignore all and any attempt to hoover you back. Live the good life you deserve x

Kathy34 · 03/04/2024 17:52

Block your brother. Time to make your own family. Bond w freinds ( aunties), there kids ( cousins) and there families. My second mom and set of grandparents belonged to my best freind. Even now that she's passed her family still loves me

ifIwerenotanandroid · 03/04/2024 17:53

Polishedshoesalways · 03/04/2024 16:23

I am sorry for everyone that is going through this. It’s very painful. 💐

Just to answer some questions. My aunt is my mums sister and would often be called when things got really out of hand. She stood there in our living room with my uncle many a time with the house hysterical after one of his rampages. She knows very well what he is like, but she has to keep quiet because she is my mother’s twin. She practices staying out of things and looking the other way as far as I can tell.

My brother has grown into a vicious bully himself. I can’t imagine what he is like to live with but the callous messages are indicative of a truly awful, damaged man.

One of the reasons I haven’t completely cut off everyone, perhaps the only reason is the future funeral(s) I always imagined I would have to go, how could I not? I don’t honestly know what I would even say at my father’s. I wouldn’t be able to think of even a single nice thing to say about him.

I have decided to tell my friends the truth. This thread has given me the confidence to tell them my shameful secret, that my family are toxic bullies that cause nothing but misery and harm. I would want to know if this had happened/was happening to them.

You don't have to go to family funerals. I didn't.

Polishedshoesalways · 03/04/2024 17:53

LampShadeTaj · 03/04/2024 17:40

It would be more difficult to maintain the contact. You’re doing the right thing protecting yourself and your kids. What would you advise someone in your shoes?

Tell your friends the truth and let them in, let them support you properly. They only know one half of you.

Every day is a bonus after what you have been through - do something that makes you happy every day you are here in this world

Know deep down in your heart there is nothing you could have done to change what happened to you. Let go of the blame. Hand it back to the adults that should have protected you.

You have suffered enough. You made it through the worst. Go out there and make the most of what is left of your life.

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ifIwerenotanandroid · 03/04/2024 17:55

That's brilliant OP.

Polishedshoesalways · 03/04/2024 17:55

anxioussister · 03/04/2024 17:44

Crabs in a bucket - they want to pull you back in because your absence / speaking the truth is unsettling to their shared illusion.

You being able to see what is happening is so much of your battle already won. You’re having therapy, you have a dialogue with your husband about this + you know you want to protect your children. You seem enormously self aware + motivated to work to find the right path - this is badass (technical psychological term…)

The pain of ‘loosing’ your family needs to be reframed as being abandoned by your family. You have been wronged - you are NOT WRONG.

Please find support + focus on building your chosen family.

Sending all power + grit as you navigate the way ahead. No easy routes - but the blue sky on the other side of the pain of letting go will be worth the bravery it takes to fight through

you have got this.

https://blog.journey.cloud/crabs-in-a-bucket-mentality/amp/

Such an interesting concept thank you, and to everyone for giving me strength and resolve. 💪🏻

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Gandalfsthong · 03/04/2024 17:57

I’m so sorry you’ve had such a terrible time at the hands of your father. You’ve done the best you can for your kids; (and I suspect for you) to step away from this toxicity. It must have been very hard to take that step. I feel sorry for your mother and brother but you can’t help them OP. It sounds like they are both in denial or so traumatised they are repressing the abuse. You’ve spoken your truth.

StopStartStop · 03/04/2024 18:00

Take a deep breath and block the lot of them. They're wrong now, they were wrong then. Protect your children. Thank you for doing that.

DeerWatch · 03/04/2024 18:02

I have cut my abusive mother out of my life, my sister walked away 30 years ago because of her. I just wished I had done it sooner!
My father enabled the abuse and I have found that hard to come to terms with so I have very little contact with him.

Concentrate on you and the family you have made and cut them all out.

Eddielizzard · 03/04/2024 18:03

It's a nasty mess, but you really do not have to engage with it at all. You are not responsible for any of them, but you are responsible for yourself and your DC. On that basis, I'd view your brother's threats to cut you out as a gift. I doubt that he will, he enjoys bullying. For your own sake I'd cut contact. Keep with the texts with your mum if you feel they help you. That is one mega toxic family set up. You are very much better off out of it.

Starfish125 · 03/04/2024 18:07

Just because they are your family that you unfortunately were born into, doesn't mean u have an obligation to stay in contact. Your husband and your kids are your family now, u don't need that shit in your life.

Dutchesss · 03/04/2024 18:08

You don't owe your family anything just because they are family. They are not deserving of your time or even your thoughts.
Block your brother, be kind to yourself and surround yourself with people that genuinely care about your best interests. Even if it's very few people.

Well done for breaking the cycle and standing up for your children. You've shown amazing strength and taught your children a very valuable lesson.