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Brother is blackmailing me. wwyd?

376 replies

Polishedshoesalways · 03/04/2024 13:24

My brother and I grew up in the 70s, this is relevant because he says our childhood is ‘normal’ and ‘fine’ and just like everyone else’s childhood at that time.

To be clear my father hit my mother, and was very violent from my earliest memory. He would lock me in the loft, or stand over me pummelling my body with his fists as a very young child. He would fly into a temper at the slightest provocation, and we all lived in total fear of him. The police and neighbours came to our house on more than a few occasions.

My father said repeatedly that he never wanted kids, and we didn’t have a relationship at all as we grew up. He hated spending any time with us. We spent most of our childhood trying to stay safe and avoid his violent outbursts.

I developed anorexia as a teenager due to his unkind comments about my body, and later tried to commit suicide because I found it hard to imagine continuing and I could see no way out. I recovered in time and grew into an healthy (ish) happy (ish) adult, and made a life for myself.

Fast forward to now I have had extensive and very helpful therapy for a few years, and after my father started to make my own children cry by humiliating them and calling them horrible names, I finally found the courage to cut contact with him.

My psychotherapist at the time said he is unwilling and unable to change and I must prioritise my dc. I understood I could not allow my dc to suffer in the same way I did. It hurt so much, but I took the decision to keep them safe from him.

My brother stopped talking to me around this time. He said I am being ‘cruel’ to my father by refusing to see him. That he is getting older and cutting him off is unforgivable of me. I am evil apparently.

I have now lost almost all of my family. My mother barely keeps in contact bar a daily text and I occasionally visit her alone or with dc. My brother continues to abuse me by email saying he ‘hates’ me and why can’t I just ‘put up with it’. My aunt now has family gatherings but doesn’t invite us.

I am being made to feel like the unreasonable person here, despite my therapists and my dh and all of my friends saying what happened to me is child abuse.

It’s been such a high price to pay to keep my children safe, and I feel broken by my brother’s relentless efforts to emotionally blackmail me into contact with my father (my abuser) or he will continue to ignore me as he has done for the last few years. My brother has given me an ultimatum- accept my father back into mine and my children’s life or be exiled by the whole family basically. I do not want any contact with father, my brother disregards this.

My mother has enabled all of this, but I see her as a victim of DV although he doesn’t hit her anymore - he is cruel in other ways, she has said she will never leave him. So she has made her choice, and it’s to stay with him.

What would you do?

OP posts:
BirthdayRainbow · 03/04/2024 18:09

Reframe it. It's not a high price to pay as all you've lost is a non existent dad, a mum who wouldn't protect you and a family who don't care. They are annoyed you have stood up for yourself and your children.

For me, there is no price too high to protect my kids.

#Abusive childhood survivor. Soon to be divorcee after a shitty husband.

SlipperyFish11 · 03/04/2024 18:20

I am 20 years in to walking away from my family. Best thing I've ever done. Has it been hard? Yes. Do I regret it? Not ever. Not for a second. The abuse I endured has left an unfathomably deep scar and I'll never forgive them for it.

I will never, ever, allow them near my children. If my children want to meet them as adults that's fine, but whilst they are children they will not.

Your brother sounds like he's been conditioned and in some denial. It's not for you to be there for him whilst he denies your reality.

You are totally right to put your children above this and away from them

tolerable · 03/04/2024 18:20

tellyour brother thankyou for finally allowing you to be set free. Block him and go no contact with rest of them.
sounds callus but honestly NOBODY deserves the suffering,far less the dragged out heartache.Its NOT just dad that wont change-neither will thee rest of them.
You are ONLY respnsible for you- as tough as it sounds YOU genuinely are worth somuch more than this. Accept THEIR unanimous decision and cut free.
Yoouve done tremendously-overcame so much and have your own family to focus on-make happy memories with.x

WhatTheFuckIsThat · 03/04/2024 18:22

Block them all, on everything. Sod the lot of them, they all sound terrible. Enjoy your life with your children.

Lavenderblue11 · 03/04/2024 18:24

Was your father not also abusive to your brother when he was growing up, or does he only abuse women and little girls? They all sound vile, sorry OP but your mother should have protected you, wipe them all off, but not before letting the wider family know why. Your children and your own mental health deserve more. Good luck xx

AdultFemaleWoman · 03/04/2024 18:24

Only stay in contact if you want your children to go through the same destructive behaviour towards them as you had.

Don't do it

Orphlids · 03/04/2024 18:25

Hi OP. I’m sorry, I’ve not read the whole thread, so apologies if I’m repeating any PPs. If you’re on Facebook, I recommend the group called “Necessary Family Estrangement”. You will find a wealth of support from some very understanding and insightful people, many of whom have been in very similar circumstances to you.

Well done for finding the strength to protect your children from your father. I bet you’re a great mum. Your brother has morphed into your chief abuser. You’ve overcome your bullying father; now you must overcome your brother. You can do it. Best wishes to you.

Autienotnaughtie · 03/04/2024 18:25

Your brother is being abusive. Block him too and stay away from them all. You are better off without them.

mivona · 03/04/2024 18:27

Crabs in a bucket is an interesting idea. I think of it as emotional vampirism, where everyone ends up needing to suck energy and joy out of others.

My parents are gone, and I have no contact with my siblings, having moved from the US to the UK over 40 years ago, following an abusive childhood that ended up with me in care. My misogynistic brother and two sisters apparently do not see me as a sister "because I left them behind" when I ran away from an abusive home at 14, and even more so when I decamped abroad.

Yes, I mourn not having the kinds of siblings that I see others have, but I am not going to pretend they are a benefit to my life. I have my own family, and like you, I have worked hard to ensure that the cycle of violence and abuse ended with me.

I wish you all the best.

tkwal · 03/04/2024 18:27

Your mother is (possibly) suffering from Stockholm syndrome and may also be from a generation who , once married saw no choice but to shut up and put up with their husbands no matter how bad the treatment they received. I feel sorry for your Mum to some extent but I reckon she probably sees your attempts to help as interference.

Was it "only " the females in the family your Dad physically assaulted and bullied ? Maybe that's why your brother takes his side.

Whether you choose to stay in touch with your Mother is up to you...maybe phone calls or meeting up away from her house. But you can't , for your own, and your family's sake, continue to be in touch with such a monster

BirthdayRainbow · 03/04/2024 18:28

I wonder if your mum doesn't see the abuse from her son as she's used to it from her ex husband

Skodacool · 03/04/2024 18:30

OP you don’t have to be invited to a funeral, you can just go although it would be understandable if you felt that you would be better not going in order to keep the peace.

alrightjackie · 03/04/2024 18:32

Do the rest of the family know what you went through?

Your parents and brother obviously do, but what about the others? If so, I wonder how they would feel about being made to be part of this ultimatum.

If, on hearing your side, they still want to cut you off in their own right, sod the lot of them.

RedToothBrush · 03/04/2024 18:33

DyddDewiSant · 03/04/2024 13:26

Block your brother.
Leave them all to it.
Walk away and enjoy your life.

This.

And it should not be the dilemma you think it is

None of them care about you. You deserve better.

moonbeammagic · 03/04/2024 18:33

Your brother is just as abuse as your father. You need to cut contact with your brother as well, for your own peace and sanity. He knows what your dad did was wrong, but he doesn't have the courage to hold him accountable. You are a reminder of his weakness - if you forgive your dad, he can convince himself that what happened wasn't really that bad. You have a family - your husband and kids-they are your priority. For the record, I also grew up in the 70s, and what happened to you was not normal.

Polishedshoesalways · 03/04/2024 18:36

Lavenderblue11 · 03/04/2024 18:24

Was your father not also abusive to your brother when he was growing up, or does he only abuse women and little girls? They all sound vile, sorry OP but your mother should have protected you, wipe them all off, but not before letting the wider family know why. Your children and your own mental health deserve more. Good luck xx

That is an excellent question. I remember him losing his temper with my brother only a handful of times, and then
not at all as he hit 11-12. Although my brother was there for some of the time when he was little. I remember him running off and under his bunk bed. We had those beds that have desk and drawers underneath them, and there was a secret place at the back where we used to play (and hide) Even the sound of my father coming up the stairs would terrify us and panic. I remember the panic.

Yes my father reserved his hatred for women. A misogynist of the worst kind.

Once I locked myself in the bathroom - I was around 8 years old and so sick of living in fear I briefly considered jumping out of the bathroom window so I could go to hospital and get away from him. In my 8 year old brain I couldn’t think of another way to be free of him.

I used to ask Father Christmas for my parents to divorce so we could live happily somewhere else without him.

Looking back now it was truly horrendous to be that desperate as a young child. He ruined every Christmas, birthday and fireworks night by causing a huge row with my mother who would then get so drunk she couldn’t stand up. I would hold her hair in the bathroom as she was sick and cried, desperate for her to just leave him, but she never did.

There is no way my brother could have forgotten this. He has chosen to pretend it didn’t happen. Maybe it’s easier for him to live with. But I can’t live a lie.

OP posts:
SergeantDawkins · 03/04/2024 18:38

Ask yourself if these people were not your blood family would you ever want to spend time with them? They sound truly awful and you don’t owe them any of your time or attention. Your brother seems to have internalised your father’s behaviours and is now replicating them. They can all get in the sea.

Polishedshoesalways · 03/04/2024 18:40

SergeantDawkins · 03/04/2024 18:38

Ask yourself if these people were not your blood family would you ever want to spend time with them? They sound truly awful and you don’t owe them any of your time or attention. Your brother seems to have internalised your father’s behaviours and is now replicating them. They can all get in the sea.

God no. I would never choose to have people like this in my life. I would call the police if I saw someone behave like my father. I would have no time for them at all.

OP posts:
jeaux90 · 03/04/2024 18:42

Big hard nope.
No way would I be prepared to be gaslighted by a sibling.

I would send him a really strongly worded message then block. A bit like your last update OP. Or just block. Whichever is more cathartic.

You have a right to a life on your own terms.

JLou08 · 03/04/2024 18:43

You have been really brave doing what you have done, that fear of a parent doesn't always disappear when we are adults so that must have took a lot of courage.
You have 100% done the right thing protecting your children. Let the family cut you off, you have your children, husband and friends. You do not need them.
It sounds like your brother has learned your father's abusive ways and is the next person you need to cut out. I would message him and say you won't be manipulated into something that damages you and your children. If there was anymore harassment from him I would block his number.
I would try and explain everything to mum and let her know I love her and am here for her if she finds the strength to leave.

frecklejuice · 03/04/2024 18:43

Your mother didn’t protect you or your brother from the abuse but you can change things and protect your children from his vile verbal abuse. If it wasn’t your father and someone else was making your children cry by being nasty to them then you wouldn’t put up with it so don’t do it just because it’s your father. Block the lot of them and walk away.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 03/04/2024 18:48

YOu mentioned your concern about funerals. Please try not to worry about that until the time comes.

I know of a family that used funerals as an attempt to get attention or get one more piece of public bullying in. Sadly it sounds like your brother might attempt this.
BUT
He/they no longer have the power to make decisions for you. You have your own independent life.
You can choose whether to go or not and under what circumstances.
You can have your own goodbye
if you attend church you can ask them to have a service for the intentions of x.
You don't owe anyone an explanation if you don't go, but don't let anyone shame you for that.
So sorry for what you have gone through. Flowers

MadraUisce · 03/04/2024 18:49

DyddDewiSant · 03/04/2024 13:26

Block your brother.
Leave them all to it.
Walk away and enjoy your life.

This. And change your phone numbers. Seriously OP - do NOT re-engage with any of them. You and your children are worth more.

momtoboys · 03/04/2024 18:56

You are doing the right thing by protecting your children.

C0hil · 03/04/2024 18:57

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