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To not want child I don't know bunking in with us?

551 replies

Applecrumbleandcustatd · 02/04/2024 12:45

We are going away soon to attend a wedding. Me, dh and our ds age 8. We are staying for a week as the wedding is quite far but in a great location so we decided to turn it into a holiday.

My sister and bil, and my sister's friend (I'll call her Judy) and Judy's dh and child, are also attending the wedding and will be staying in the same accommodation. It's a large B&B house with individual rooms/apartments.

I don't know Judy other than to say hello (this is relevant).

Dh and I booked our accommodation first, it's a one bed apartment with kitchen and sofa bed in the lounge for our son. We told my sister about it and she and her dh booked another of the apartments and decided to also make a few days of it too, fine.

Sister told Judy about the B&B and Judy then booked up the last room. Judy's room is only a double room rather than an apartment. My sister has told Judy that her dd can bunk in with us for the week and share the sofa bed with our ds. Also that Just can share our kitchen.

The dd is 12 or 13 afaik. We don't know Judy or the dd. I've spoken to Judy in passing but I've never even met the child.

I've said no but my sister is saying I'm being selfish as Judy hasn't got room and the dd will have to sleep on an airbed.

OP posts:
Needanewname42 · 02/04/2024 21:36

Op just needs to fine her inner Zammo and Just Say No.
Trying to move accommodation will most likely result in her loosing her deposit for the accommodation she has already booked.

Needanewname42 · 02/04/2024 21:38

I'd be incredibly surprised if Judy or the DD were actually up for it. It sounds like the sister has come up with the idea without thinking it through for all concerned.

EmpressaurusOfTheScathingTinsel · 02/04/2024 21:43

Needanewname42 · 02/04/2024 21:38

I'd be incredibly surprised if Judy or the DD were actually up for it. It sounds like the sister has come up with the idea without thinking it through for all concerned.

She’s probably telling Judy that OP is fine with it.

And it’s completely irrelevant that the sister doesn’t have kids. People always seem to trot that one out. I don’t have kids but I can still see that this is a terrible idea.

Cosmosforbreakfast · 02/04/2024 21:44

You can't just offer someone else's accommodation or facilities to another person, that's ridiculous. Just tell her no and that as she made the offer of helping out she can sort something for them herself. Let her away with this she'll keep offering people your help. None of this is your problem or for you to deal with.

Debtfreegoals · 02/04/2024 21:45

Yup I agree with other posters. Judy and her daughter will have to share the double bed. End of.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 02/04/2024 21:47

Needanewname42 · 02/04/2024 21:38

I'd be incredibly surprised if Judy or the DD were actually up for it. It sounds like the sister has come up with the idea without thinking it through for all concerned.

I agree. OP, I wonder what your sister is telling Judy...

I find it very unlikely that Judy is up for making her 12 year old daughter share a sofa-bed with an eight-year-old boy she's never met! Until you hear otherwise, assume that Judy is sane, and it's only your sister who's in the habit of trying to orchestrate close friendships through manipulation.

Does Judy even want to stay for the whole week, or did she economise on a double for the three of them because she planned for the family only to stay a night or two?

millivani · 02/04/2024 21:50

Whaaat? Judy wants her 13yo DD to share a sofa bed with your 8yo DS. Er No. Just no.

Hankunamatata · 02/04/2024 21:53

Hell no

AndReaderHeMarriedMyFriend · 02/04/2024 22:08

Applecrumbleandcustatd · 02/04/2024 12:53

I don't think my sister's apartment has a sofa bed.

I'm not sure because we all booked independently but I know that Judy has booked a double room for herself, her husband and daughter.

My sister is pushing it that it will be fun for the children and they can make friends. I think she's trying to push us all together as one big group. Not realistic as the children are different ages. Sister is always very pushy when she gets an idea

I've got no problem with Judy but we want space and privacy.

My sister would suggest something as stupid as this.

Just say no, repeatedly. I find that eventually works for me

CoraPirbright · 02/04/2024 22:23

Is there anyway you can get hold of Judy’s phone number (could the bride let you have it?). Circumvent your batshit PITA sister and text Judy “Hi there! Looking forward to seeing you at the wedding. Not sure if you are aware but sis has been pushing for your daughter to share a sofa bed with my 8 yr old son in our apartment!! Totally crackers of course - they would both be utterly mortified and your poor daughter has never even met us so would be in with total strangers! Madness! Hope you get your extra bed sorted!”

As an aside, I have spent nights on an air bed and they are perfectly comfortable esp when you are 12 ie not prey to the aches and pains a 40/50 yr old would have!

Clearinguptheclutter · 02/04/2024 22:23

Nope and fairly sure Judy and her DD wouldn’t be happy with it anyway so no problem. Other than your sister is going to be put out. Let her be.

Grammarnut · 02/04/2024 22:25

The dd is too old to be sharing a bed with a boy, even if he is only 8. Keep saying no to this imposition. It's not fair of either dc.

Nanny0gg · 02/04/2024 22:26

Applecrumbleandcustatd · 02/04/2024 18:59

I expect that the next thing I'll hear about it will be to ask if I've had chance to think about it anymore.

Even if every person on this thread had said yabu. I still wouldn't have changed my mind about the sleeping arrangements because I don't want ds sharing his sofa bed with a random child. I'd have agreed to them popping in to make tea/coffee or store some milk in our fridge, anything like that.

But every single one of these replies has given me the courage to say get lost without so much as a shred of guilt

Please do let us know the outcome of all this

<nosy>

Thefutureisourownpath · 02/04/2024 22:30

curlywillow · 02/04/2024 12:59

Absolutely not

”No, I’m afraid there is no point asking me again since I won’t change my mind. It’s entirely inappropriate and not what we want. Judy will need to change her accommodation plans or her child will need to sleep in an airbed. Please don’t ask again”

This

cherish123 · 02/04/2024 22:34

An 8 Yr old boy and a 13yr old girl can't share a sofa bed! That's ridiculous.

DreamTheMoors · 02/04/2024 22:35

My mum used to do this and it infuriated me.
When I finally got my license, she’d be talking to my great aunts on the phone and I’d hear her say, “Oh Dream will do that for you,” or “Dream will take you,” or “Dream will run and get that for you.”
It wasn’t that I minded - I loved them - but not asking me & volunteering me was disrespectful. I was in school, had extracurricular activities and a job.
It’s the same thing with your sister, @Applecrumbleandcustatd- she’s volunteering you without taking your feelings or opinion of the matter into consideration at all.
Stand your ground.

Noseybookworm · 02/04/2024 22:37

You said no. You don't have to justify yourself any further. If your sister persists you need to say 'I've said no and I meant it so stop going on. I'm not going to change my mind' be assertive and say it like you mean it. If your sister gets huffy, let her be huffy. You are not responsible for her moods.

caringcarer · 02/04/2024 22:40

ABirdsEyeView · 02/04/2024 12:51

Maybe your sister should swap with Judy! It's very easy to be generous with someone else's stuff. Tell your sister to wind her neck in and stop making promises for other people to keep.

Edited

This. Your sister has no business to offer your accommodation to random people. Suggest to her she swaps with Judy. A point blank no is needed.

CutthroatDruTheViolent · 02/04/2024 22:41

This is so batshit, I doubt Judy even knows let alone thinks it is a good idea.

I think you need to tell your sister you need Judy's number to discuss direct with her. If she won't share, then she's clearly not given all the information to Judy or is making parts up. If she does, then job done, call Judy and say you're sorry but you're not willing to let your son share a bed with a girl he doesn't know.

alicatte · 02/04/2024 22:41

I agree with all the other posters. Make sure that 'Judy' knows - your sister can do that as she is responsible for this mess. It would be unfair and inappropriate (even in the sense of legal child safeguarding) for you to take part in this. I'd also let the apartment people know that you specifically want privacy for your family. I'd ask them to ensure that only you are given keys to your apartment - no one else is to collect them for you. Poor children, what a horrible idea, going to a wedding at that age is bad enough.

Iwrotethelyricstoaxlf · 02/04/2024 22:43

Debtfreegoals · 02/04/2024 21:45

Yup I agree with other posters. Judy and her daughter will have to share the double bed. End of.

Yep and Judy’s husband can share the sofa bed with the 8yo DS

Problem solved.

Hones The sister is a bit of a bell piece.

notnowmarmaduke · 02/04/2024 22:46

Applecrumbleandcustatd · 02/04/2024 18:59

I expect that the next thing I'll hear about it will be to ask if I've had chance to think about it anymore.

Even if every person on this thread had said yabu. I still wouldn't have changed my mind about the sleeping arrangements because I don't want ds sharing his sofa bed with a random child. I'd have agreed to them popping in to make tea/coffee or store some milk in our fridge, anything like that.

But every single one of these replies has given me the courage to say get lost without so much as a shred of guilt

no, dont offer to share the fridge either, or anything at all. What if they want the milk at 11.30 pm, or 6.30 am, or whatever. Just no. This is your holiday

caringcarer · 02/04/2024 22:46

Judy must be a bit dim to book accommodation that doesn't fit her family.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 02/04/2024 22:47

it isn't even simply a matter of Judy's daughter sharing with OP's son.

This proposal requires Judy and husband to usher their daughter into someone else's apartment for bedtime every night. A 12/13 year old girl will not have the same bedtime as an eight year old!

What happens in the morning? Does she have to go running down the public corridor in her pyjamas to her parents' room in the morning, so she can get dressed?

Who would want to want to wake up in a stranger's living room every morning, if you could just have an airbed in the same room as your mum and dad?

Gcsunnyside23 · 02/04/2024 22:49

Applecrumbleandcustatd · 02/04/2024 17:19

What does it matter what your sister's agenda is? Why didn't you instantly shut this down?
Imagine starting a thread instead of just saying No...*
*
I did say no. I said straight away that we didn't even know the child and it wouldn't be fair for my ds.

Trouble is my sister doesn't like taking no for an answer. She more or less said I'm being uptight, told me the children would love it, tried to make me feel bad for her friend and the girl. Kept telling me how lovely the girl is. How it was all for our cousins wedding.

You don't understand how many times I've been in these type of situations with family. You start to feel that you're the one going crazy.

Does your sister not understand that a teen girl and an 8 year old boy will have absolutely nothing in common and want nothing to do with each other. She keeps saying 'tge children will love it' but she's not a child in the same sense your son is, even if she doesn't have kids this must be obvious to her. My 13 year old would be affronted at the idea of sharing a room with a random family and sharing a bed with a random boy. Your sister sounds like a pushy busy body and you need to be firm with her. Tell her to put the girl up in her room