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My aunts inheritance choices seem to have destroyed my family

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Afana · 01/04/2024 13:25

A little context, my aunt passed away at the start of last year, her husband had passed 10 years prior, she never had children. They were well off. Massive large house worth more than 2 million and some other assets, including a holiday home etc.

My DD is 24, lives in London where my aunt was and was "named after" her. She is the only girl, my brother has two boys and I have a boy, my dad was her only sibling.

My aunt really treated my kids like her own grandkids but more so my daughter, she spoiled her, had her over in the holidays etc. Even got her a job!

Now when my aunt passed everything was left to my daughter. This was unexpected. After inheritance tax and giving the donations to charity she had arranged. There was around 1.9 million left, the house was sold to cover the inheritance tax.

My daughter used a deed of variation I believe to give £50,000 to myself, my son, my brother and my brother's two sons. £25,000 to my parents, which is all they wanted, she did offer them more.

My aunt wrote a letter explaining her reasons and it was effectively she's my favourite.

Now recently my daughter bought a lovely 2 bed flat worth over a million in a lovely part of London near Hyde Park. She's reduced her work to 4 days, she got rid of basically every item of clothing she owned and bought all new, has been on endless holidays.

Now my son and both her cousins, not to mention myself and my brother are somewhat resentful. We aren't a rich family, we live modest lives in the midlands and everyone thinks her choice screams of greed. She's mortgage free in a flat while her cousins are still struggling to buy.

Yesterday was Easter, everything was tense, my daughter ended up leaving early with her boyfriend to go home. We haven't heard from her since!

AIBU to think my aunt going about everything like this has irreparably damaged our family and it will probably never be the same again. I do think my daughter was greedy and should have shared more equally!

OP posts:
MILTOBE · 01/04/2024 17:41

The thing is, OP, that your daughter doesn't get on with her brother, so why should she give him several hundred thousand pounds?

Also, it depends how close she is to her cousins. It doesn't sound as though she's particularly close - not close enough to give them several hundred thousand pounds, either.

It doesn't sound as though the others would have shared with her, either.

MyNameIsFine · 01/04/2024 17:42

Afana · 01/04/2024 15:48

I think she will be ok I'm not worried about that at all. She has a good job. Her aunt helped her get it and she went in a little above the normal grad role so was making £50k straight out of uni and has had a pay rise since. She is sensible and I don't think she's waiting it.
It's still a bit of salt on the wound when she shows up in brand new clothes every time we see her!

You resent your own dd showing up in new clothes???? Do you realise how petty and jealous this makes you sound? It's like you're 16!!!

soupfiend · 01/04/2024 17:43

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 01/04/2024 17:36

Seems a small amount for an estate of that size.

Actually that’s correct, what the DD paid.

Edited

Ive read all of OPs posts and cant see where she mentions the amount of IHT?

Lucytheloose · 01/04/2024 17:44

marlfield · 01/04/2024 17:24

I can't imagine inheriting £1.9m and only giving my parents and brother £50k. I would genuinely have split it equally with them because I'd want them to share the good fortune. I honestly think your DD sounds pretty selfish. It's not about who "deserves" the inheritance, it's about sharing a windfall with the people who brought you up and who you're meant to love most in the world. I don't blame you for being disappointed in her.

Who gets to decide whom someone else is 'meant to love most'?

Tattletwat · 01/04/2024 17:44

Chattywatty · 01/04/2024 17:40

My will has trusts until 25 and that was advised by my solicitor and to me it makes perfect sense than giving what would have been a 22 year old free rein of £2m. Equally as a parent I would absolutely not be making sure I was reassured that my child was getting the best possible advice on their money from an expert. I say this as someone who has been in this position and have children who are too. I wouldn’t have any interest in the money myself but I sure as hell wouldn’t be happy to not be absolutely sure it was being looked after properly and it seems the op hasn’t done that

Your will having trust to 25 is irrelevant if the aunt didn't put this in her will, it might make sense to you and your solicitor but a different solicitor and aunt make different decisions

And if your child is a adult then you have to let them do what they will wrongly or right

BIossomtoes · 01/04/2024 17:44

soupfiend · 01/04/2024 17:43

Ive read all of OPs posts and cant see where she mentions the amount of IHT?

It’s in the very first post.

WhereYouLeftIt · 01/04/2024 17:44

"Now my son and both her cousins, not to mention myself and my brother are somewhat resentful. We aren't a rich family, we live modest lives in the midlands and everyone thinks her choice screams of greed. She's mortgage free in a flat while her cousins are still struggling to buy."

Her cousins have just been given £50k, which is a MASSIVE deposit. She gave you £50k, and your brother, and her brother, and these two cousins. She has distributed £275,000 in total to her family.

Your resentment is what screams of greed, not your daughter's choices.

Would you be less resentful if your aunt had left her entire estate to a donkey sanctuary, and ALL of you got £0? Well - would you?

Give your head a fucking wobble.

MILTOBE · 01/04/2024 17:45

Your daughter would be turning up in new clothes without that inheritance.

It's almost as if £50,000 isn't enough to buy yourself new clothes, OP.

This does show, though, how often, unless everything is split equally, nobody is happy.

WearyAuldWumman · 01/04/2024 17:45

marlfield · 01/04/2024 17:24

I can't imagine inheriting £1.9m and only giving my parents and brother £50k. I would genuinely have split it equally with them because I'd want them to share the good fortune. I honestly think your DD sounds pretty selfish. It's not about who "deserves" the inheritance, it's about sharing a windfall with the people who brought you up and who you're meant to love most in the world. I don't blame you for being disappointed in her.

It's not a windfall. The aunt left her money to the person who was closest to her.

soupfiend · 01/04/2024 17:45

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · 01/04/2024 17:32

I’m a bit surprised you’re not mentioning inheritance tax and I assume that’s been paid. It’ll be a lot on a property worth £2 million.

Your aunt can do what she wants but it would’ve been fairer to split the estate between all children and not one. But your daughter has helped her siblings out financially which she didn’t have to do.

I think just leave her to do what she wants. If she’s not careful she’ll work her way through the rest of that money.

IHT is in the OP.

Blogswife · 01/04/2024 17:46

I think your daughter has been very generous to you all. She took time out of her life to spend with her Aunt and as a result formed a bond . You all seem very bitter towards her . No wonder she left early ! Can’t you just be happy for her ?

StaunchMomma · 01/04/2024 17:46

Afana · 01/04/2024 13:56

Yes she was closer to my aunt but this was due to shared hobbies (tennis, they went to Wimbledon together and had travelled to the other grand slams) and my daughter being geographically closer rather than her putting more effort in.

It did start when she was a child as my son never wanted to go, so we would drop DD off for a couple of weeks in the summer and my aunt would take her to her tennis club.

And while your son couldn't be bothered, your daughter forged a bond with her Great-Aunt that was clearly very special to her.

Your DD has given away a quarter of a million pounds of money that was legally left to HER.

She didn't have to give anyone a penny.

I wouldn't blame her for distancing herself from you all, you sound so bitter.

WearyAuldWumman · 01/04/2024 17:47

Afana · 01/04/2024 14:11

Not very close, they don't like each other!!

Then why should she give more money to someone who's not close to her?

soupfiend · 01/04/2024 17:47

Chatonette · 01/04/2024 17:27

I can’t imagine being in a position where I got £0 from my aunt’s will, and the recipient graciously gave me £50,000….then I got snarky and rude with that person for being ‘greedy’. I’d consider myself lucky. The family anger should be directed at Auntie, not at DD.

There shouldnt be any 'family anger'

Angry about what?

Who do people think they are that they're entitled to an inheritance?

Spacecowboys · 01/04/2024 17:48

If one of my DCs inherited almost 2 million and gave their sibling a measly 50k I’d feel so disappointed. Id expect better. I wouldn’t expect a share for myself.

Scottishskifun · 01/04/2024 17:48

Afana · 01/04/2024 16:25

She works in finance ... I trust she knows what she's doing!!
Gosh I think people are missing the point!

I think the only person missing the point is you!

It's you and your family acting greedy and jealous and ultimately damaging your relationship with your daughter.

If you want to save that then it's you that needs to contact and apologise to her and stop it with your perception that she somehow owes you all something (when she has given you 50k each already!)

WearyAuldWumman · 01/04/2024 17:48

Rainbowshit · 01/04/2024 14:16

Also surprised by the responses. The advice given with wills on here is always to divide equally otherwise it can tear families apart.

Why should people be obligated to leave money to people who didn't spend time with them?

Lucytheloose · 01/04/2024 17:51

ADrownedRat · 01/04/2024 17:16

Your daughter has been really generous when she was basically dishouring your aunts wishes.

Think of it this way, imagine you for whatever reasons of your own want to leave all your money to X and for Y not to get anything. You think about it carefully and decide what you want to with your money.

wouldn't you be really pissed off if (if you knew about it obviously) after your death, X decided to give half of it to Y when you had specifically made a decision nothing for Y?

I think the whole family are being bitches to the kind daughter who has given substantial - yes substantial sums - out of pure generosity.

You never know what reasons people have. I know someone who is cutting out their child and leaving everything to the grandchildren on trust because they can't stand their child's spouse (for good reasons) and don't want as they say "a single penny" of everything they have worked for and anything from their own parents to go to fund a swanky lifestyle of someone they detest. If they leave it to the child, the spouse will get their paws on it they say.

People have their reasons and if they are in sound mind, I strongly believe that their choices should be respected.

I don't see it as the daughter dishonouring the aunt's wishes, more as doing what she chose with the money that had suddenly become hers.

Whatevershallidowithmylife · 01/04/2024 17:52

So your aunt and your DD seemed to be very similar and enjoyed the same things in life so quite obviously they were much closer, the daughter she never had I guess? Had you and your DB made more effort to include her in your lives along with your DS and DN then likely your aunt would have had a closer bond. I think your DD has been more than generous and you should be apologising to her for the jealousy and sheer ignorance shown to her.

Dextersenergy · 01/04/2024 17:52

Someone else did the sums earlier -
She had 1.9 million. She has given away 275k, she has bought a flat in either Kensington or Bayswater for over a million, so let us say 1.3 million, which is a typical price for a one bed in those areas. That means she has probably spent something like 1.55 million and now has £350,000 left.

So basically she's brought fairly modest property that needs some work in an area where she wants to live. It happens to be an area where property prices are high.

She's had some fun as instructed by her aunt.

So the bulk of her spend was simply on buying a home mortgage free. She's got a bit of a nest egg left. Seems perfectly reasonable to me. I guess her greedy rellies would have been happy for her to be left unable to afford a property in London.

LadyTiredWinterBottom2 · 01/04/2024 17:52

The question was is it unreasonable to think this has damaged the fam - no, it isn't unreasonable.

Regardless of the morality of this,it will cause problems in pretty much any family.

M1Holly · 01/04/2024 17:52

Spacecowboys · 01/04/2024 17:48

If one of my DCs inherited almost 2 million and gave their sibling a measly 50k I’d feel so disappointed. Id expect better. I wouldn’t expect a share for myself.

Why? You love your children equally and as their mother you would expect to treat them equally yourself, i understand that.

But that obligation does not exist between siblings and, reasonably often, there is not even any love or liking between siblings. Trying to guilt one of them into giving the other money so that you feel better that your children are equally financially provided for is misguided and ultimately self-serving.

CarrotCake01 · 01/04/2024 17:53

I'd be frustrated too but at the end of the day .... its her money. She didn't HAVE to give ANY away! If the aunt wanted her money split between the family, that's what she would have requested in her Will.

I'd be concerned if my daughter was changing too much as a person and losing her personailty due to greed, and making stupid financial decisions that were going to bite her in the ass before long but I don't think you can be too mad at her spending her own money, just because you want it.

Tattletwat · 01/04/2024 17:53

WearyAuldWumman · 01/04/2024 17:48

Why should people be obligated to leave money to people who didn't spend time with them?

Absolutely why should you be obligated to give money to anyone you don't like.

There is people in any family people wouldn't give a penny too, wills aren't a Democracy leave it to who you want to leave to.

Don't expect anything and be surprised if you get something.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 01/04/2024 17:53

Your daughter sounds lovely. Making time to be with her great aunt all her life, spending time and forming a lovely bond. She gave away £300,000 to the rest of the family which she didn’t have to at all, and the rest of you jackals still aren’t happy?

The rest of the family sound far less lovely. Why is no one satisfied with the incredibly generous £50k each? What did you all expect to happen? Were you guys rubbing your hands at the thought of the money you expected to inherit (did you think it would be half each for you and your brother?) and now shocked that you didn’t get that?

And I’m sorry but the great nephews could have made the effort if they wanted. Your description of your Dd as “girly and sweet” is contemptuous in the extreme. Boys can make an effort to do things they don’t absolutely love. “She just happened to like the same things” - or they had a lot in common - that’s a perfectly good reason for a closer bond. What were these boys expecting- to make no effort with their aunt but be treated the same as the niece who did?

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