To think we should all stop tipping now?

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Tomorrow the minimum wage increases to £11.44 per hour. That’s an increase of 9.8%. It also increased by 9.7% last year. Inflation is currently 4.5%.

This is obviously a very good thing for millions of workers in low paid employment across the country and, whatever else the government has got wrong, it deserves credit for pushing through such large increases.

The minimum wage is now set at a level at which it provides fair & reasonable pay for unskilled service industry work. Therefore tipping such workers is no longer necessary or appropriate, so I won’t be tipping anyone anywhere from now on. AIBU?

@DogsAreBetterThanHusbands service charge is now considered a tip and will need to be passed on to the staff.

I hate tip jars in eg restaurants where I know everyone was earring more than me (I was on mw)but then you can see them looking at you and the jar!

That’s not what the post said.

In November when there’s no holidays and the PP works full time, then in her November pay she must be paid minimum wage x the number of hours worked in November. If her gross pay is less than that because of holidays in other months, then it’s illegal.

The only place I ever tip is in a restaurant and then only if the service has been excellent. I’m not working to effectively give money away. I don’t understand anyone who would tip a hairdresser tbh. They’re not poorly paid!

so you get 16 weeks off, as oposed to the normal 5.6 weeks off, and your pay is adjusted for that?

No!!

We are not in America, we dont have to tip to pay the wages of the staff

If you cannot afford a restaurant served meal, but i can, i chose not to tip
Take a bus not a cab I'll take a cab and not tip
Home hairdressing I'll go to the hairdresser and not tip

Exactly. Some people can afford the meal and the taxi etc because they’re good with money and don’t just give it away. Why do we feel pressured to essentially just give money away?

Yes we get the same every month spread over so that we get paid for the holidays but we don’t really as it’s what we already earned

But you work less hours, so you get less pay - I hope you dont teach maths at the school.

You are paid for 6 months (for example) over 12 months.

So if you earned £200 a month for the work you do, you would get £100 every month instead of £200 for 6 months and then nothing for 6 months

Surely this isnt that complicated - you dont get anything taken away

But that’s what she meant. Which she clarified when I asked to make sure. I asked if she was actually deducted in her pay or if she was just meaning what she loses out by not working during the holidays. She clarified that it was just what she had worked out as the amount she lost by not working the holidays.

She is paid for the hours she works. She doesn’t work during the holiday so doesn’t get paid. She sees it as a “deduction” but not isn’t. She just isn’t paid for hours not worked. It isn’t actually a deduction.

@Nicetobenice67 do you mean it costs you that much to pay out for childcare?

@DaisyHaites
To be clear, there are no deductions to her paid. No one takes off £2.50 an hour. She is fully paid for the hours worked.

She meant that because teachers are not working all year round, she missed out on what… 13ish weeks pay a year. Not because it is being deducted, just because they aren’t paid because they don’t work. The £2.50 an hour deduction (which she has made up) is imaginary; it’s what she loses in a whole year because she doesn’t work full time.

I never said it was complicated and how F###ing rude are you

No no no and if your going to insult me 🤬 maybe try to do the math right yourself you have no idea what your talking about and on that note 🤬 you

Blimey 😬

You are both mistaken. She will have some of the pay for the hours she has worked, in say november, "deducted" so that she will still get an equal pay packet in august.

Wtf that has to do with tipping I don't know

So where is that wrong?
(Apart from adding in holiday days) whats wrong with the basic premise

I did say in a post I know it has nothing to do with tipping read all the post DARLING

YABU - It’s not like we’re expected to tip a lot in the UK, it’s a nice gesture to show you appreciate when someone has provided a service and taken care of you. I don’t like referring to jobs as ‘unskilled’ either, most jobs require a level of skill.

Your wrong it’s pro rata you have to understand that so I get paid the same every month if you don’t know what your talking about please don’t speak for me…for example if I was paid 7 pounds an hour I would get 5 so that I can be paid for the 16 weeks off I’m done with this so many RUDE ppl on here

While not the point of the post. Yes some people do have deductions made for holiday pay. I’m a contractor and was given the choice of having something like £80 a week withheld to then be paid to me as leave or getting it in my wages each week. To be blunt I can’t currently afford to pay out £80 a week to get some time off so I chose to not pay it. If I did, it would be a deduction.

Instead I take it upon myself to save what I can and just take off the time I can afford. But if you work in a school then obviously you have to fit in with term times.

Yes - thats correct as normally contractors do their own tax, NI and holiday wherever I have worked before

if you work an hour, you get paid £7 for that hour.

You probably get £5 the month you work, and the £2 later, in the month you dont work?

You're not getting less than £7 - like I said in my example above that you were so rude about

Can you explain where my example is wrong?

You are paid for 6 months (for example) over 12 months.

So if you earned £200 a month for the work you do, you would get £100 every month instead of £200 for 6 months and then nothing for 6 months

If you work 20 hours (simplified numbers) a month for 6 months and then no hours for 6 months

You will be paid for 10 hours a month EVERY MONTH 12 months,
OR You will be paid for 20 hours for 6 months, and then nothing for 6 months

You were rude to me I have no time for RUDE ppl like you have a nice day bye