To think we should all stop tipping now?

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Tomorrow the minimum wage increases to £11.44 per hour. That’s an increase of 9.8%. It also increased by 9.7% last year. Inflation is currently 4.5%.

This is obviously a very good thing for millions of workers in low paid employment across the country and, whatever else the government has got wrong, it deserves credit for pushing through such large increases.

The minimum wage is now set at a level at which it provides fair & reasonable pay for unskilled service industry work. Therefore tipping such workers is no longer necessary or appropriate, so I won’t be tipping anyone anywhere from now on. AIBU?

I earn min wage and no top ups as I have a mortgage

I own restaurants and hate the tipping. We pay our staff over minimum wage and they still all argue over tips. Organising it is extra faff too plus taxes to sort out. I would rather it didn't exist! Not to be mean but we pay them between 12 and 15 an hour and they get all their meals free. We are flexible with shift changes and always happy to help them outside of work too
For example help when moving etc.

Bit tips actually bring out the mean side of people!

Never have tipped anyone, feels like I would be paying the underlings and that doesn't sit well with me.

Most things that need tipping are luxuries really and not for everyone. I just build the cost of tipping into the price.

If you cannot afford a restaurant served meal, eat in a takeaway place
Take a bus not a cab
Home hairdressing etc

I’ve read those stories about people being shamed for not leaving adequate tips in the USA. What if you are skint and it’s your 40th anniversary and you’ve saved hard to be able to do something and some bastard makes you feel really small for not being able to tip enough.

We always tip, but it does occur to me that it must be really shit if you are trying to do something nice on a constrained budget and you have to worry about the tip as well. I’d just never go out, it would be too stressful.

Bowing and scraping? Yuck. That's not what you're there to do, not what any hospitality staff are there to do.

The thing is, the job pays what it pays - and employers should pay their staff properly, it's not up to customers to make up the wages by tipping. I don't agree that hospitality staff do a harder job than anybody else and warrant tipping for it. You (along with everybody else) deserve fair wages for the job that they do and that should be a given.

It's ridiculous that other employees on NMW are expected to tip hospitality staff just because, it's the custom. No, it isn't, not any longer.

But the US is very different from here. Culturally, you do have to tip. That’s the accepted and standard practice and they know those staff aren’t paid properly. The tips are their wages. It’s a totally different culture from here. So, if you can’t tip then don’t go out. That’s just how it is there. That’s not how it is here.

How about when the restaurant staff earn the same as you? With this they are then warning more. So why we would u give someone extra money when they are better off than you anyway?

Does that not apply to care staff as well then?

I normally tip serving staff in restaurants. I’ve always done so and don’t see a reason to stop. Sometimes the staff make the difference between a mediocre experience and a good one. I do however get the ‘service charge’ removed and just make a single payment rather than a percentage. It’s no harder to carry a plate with an expensive steak than it is an omelette.

I often tip taxi drivers, especially when they point out landmarks, etc.

I have never tipped grocery delivery drivers, or the man who delivers my oil, but do tip for large items such as furniture. It’s hard to say why I tip some and not others. It’s just what I’ve always done.

I will never add a tip when ordering at the counter. If it am standing there ordering I think I should have the tip - plus at that stage I have no idea what the food will be like, or how long I will have to wait.

I think this is my point, and I’m not criticising you, this is a societal thing, but why do we tip someone who delivers pizza or the taxi driver but not the one who delivers groceries?

It’s bizarre how we’ve decided some get and others don’t but as you say, we can’t actually explain why?

Such an unnecessary and patronising comment.

I agree. I can’t understand why it’s such a problem.

I don’t tip because the person might be on a low wage, I tip because of good service.

DS is a waiter in a nice restaurant. His tips are quite often more than his wages especially in the summer.

Exactly, it’s not hard to understand !

My sister works in the civil service assessing asylum seeker claims. Her annual salary divided by the hours she works is minimum wage. No one tips her.

If all service workers did that they’d be no restaurants. People in hospitality do it for all sorts of reasons, stupid, tone deaf response.

i do sometimes hairdresser nails taxi-not all resturants depends on service i get
i dont think 11.64 is enoug to live on though

Oh, OP, I stopped about ten years ago.....

I’d love to know!

Wow get a better job ….how fucking shallow and rude

Because they see you coming.

It wouldn't be a great loss nowadays anyway

Can you please explain this.

I have extensive experience auditing school accounts and I have never seen a school take money off staff.

If you are a member of support staff working term time only (TTO) you will work 39 weeks per year and be paid 44.6 weeks pay per year (thanks to Harpur v Brazel) ie 5.6 weeks holiday & bank holiday pay.

The underlings won’t care 😆