To think we should all stop tipping now?

[MuggedByReality]

Tomorrow the minimum wage increases to £11.44 per hour. That’s an increase of 9.8%. It also increased by 9.7% last year. Inflation is currently 4.5%.

This is obviously a very good thing for millions of workers in low paid employment across the country and, whatever else the government has got wrong, it deserves credit for pushing through such large increases.

The minimum wage is now set at a level at which it provides fair & reasonable pay for unskilled service industry work. Therefore tipping such workers is no longer necessary or appropriate, so I won’t be tipping anyone anywhere from now on. AIBU?

Not true. As I said in my other post I worked in a form of hospitality and it was really hard. I never got tipped. Working in a restaurant was much easier. Interestingly, people in retail don’t get tipped either.

Only SOME aspects of hospitality get tips. Bars, restaurants l, hairdressers, taxis, hotels. Everyone else serving can jump.

It’s unfair and ridiculous to those who also ‘serve’ but get fuck all because the world has decided they don’t qualify.

Minimum wage is shit. Business owners that only pay minimum wage to their staff should only be allowed by law to take minimum wage for themselves too. See how they like it.

I really think that a truly fundamental mistake of a capitalist society is making housing a business. Making housing something you can make money on, making housing a huge part of the economy. It’s a huge issue that rent and mortgages and house prices just go up and up and up… until we have crashes and then no one can buy anyway.

I get a lot more than a bag for £80! That's more than my weekly shop.

What's your hourly OP?

What? Fair enough if you’re too cheap to tip but I would dream of setting foot in a restaurant if I couldn’t afford to tip at least 10%. Minimum wage for being friendly and efficient while the public are rude and messy and just plain disgusting a lot of the time is just not enough. Also, you try living on that per hour in the middle of a col crisis!

As an aside. I know of some upmarket London restaurants who pay staff minimum wage by paying them a lower hourly rate with the assumption that they’ll make X amount of tips.

Pathetic. Would you prefer for there to be no restaurants or did you just want to have a pop at a poor?

You do you

This is illegal. In a month where you are working you must get paid minimum wage for the hours worked in that pay period. They can’t take a deduction for holidays in a different pay period if it means you get less than minimum wage for hours worked in any given month.

Are you Mr.pink.😁

I get you’re asking this to go ‘Aha’ you’re on £20 an hour so there’ but I’ve alsways been on minimum wage and I don’t agree with tipping. It doesn’t apply to all minimum wage jobs, it doesn’t apply to all hospitality jobs so it isn’t fair. Most Taxi drivers will earn loads more than me (my ex was a taxi driver and his wages were decent) yet I’m expected to hand over extra cash to them? No way.

If tipping were fair that might be different but it’s not. I’m on minimum wage and I don’t agree with it.

Also, bosses often pool the tips and divvy then out and take a cut anyway. Tipping should be banned and fair wages should be fought for.

How rude was that bless you your doing a great job trust me I work in hospitality too

What did you do? Did it really require personal service?

Agree. Access to shelter should be a fundamental right.

Oh what utterly ludicrous hyperbole. Stop making out people who work in hospitality work harder than any other profession, and acting like you are the only one who works shit hours! 🙄 You have clearly not lived a lot, nor had many jobs.

@WarshipRocinante

Right… but a huge number of people are paid minimum wage. So why should they tip? They’re already struggling to afford meals out. If the tipping pushes them over the edge and they don’t go out, then hospitality workers won’t have jobs.

There is no need for tipping in the UK, not when so many people are paid minimum wage but expected to top another min wage worker.

Exactly! As if hospitality workers so special and precious - and work soooooooooo much harder than anyone else, that they are the only ones who deserve tips?! Give me a break! Methinks @trippily isn't get tipped much lately, and she is salty about it

I don't use restaurants as most have such poor service...

Absolutely this⬆️

They’re not taking a deduction. Teacher simply get paid for term time. They don’t get a salary during the summer holidays.
The poster has just calculated how many hours she would work if schools didn’t close during summer holidays, so how much extra she would earn and Then deducted that from what’s she earns from the hours worked.

No one is actually deducting anything from her wage. She is paid fully for the hours she works… and she benefits from the long holidays. But she is complaining that they aren’t paid during the holiday period.

I have 35 years nursery experience, qualified in childcare for 20 years currently at level 6, which is a degree level qualification. For this I am paid at minimum wage. Its not much really even with rises.
I always tip waiting staff, hairdressers, taxis, manicurist even though many of them earn more than me.
Its a strange culture.

You aren't paid less though. Someone working 39 weeks a year having their salary split over 12 months plus usual paid holiday won't equate to Someone working 52 weeks (including holiday pay).

How rude hospitality is bloody hard work and hours …this person isn’t saying it’s only hospitality …I work in hospitality I’m 57 and only ever had 2 jobs in my life so how exactly does that work

I am tipped very handsomely thank you, i wouldn't work hospitality if i wasnt. I doubt many would!

Then we cancel all wages and all jobs should be paid the same - cleaner as much as the doctor.

I don’t want to say as it’s specialist but yes. I worked 60 hours weeks, with the general public all day doing sometimes very personal things. I never got tipped, nor did my colleagues and I’ve never spoken to anyone in the industry now who does. There are lots of such roles. I’m in retail now on minimum wage and you don’t get tipped despite literally serving people all day long.

Tipping is very selective. Those who get it say they need it and those who aren’t entitled because their jobs for some reason haven’t qualified despite the long hours and shit wages are forgotten about.

Ditch tips, fair wages for all.

Why? A doctor studies for 7 years and pays of a lot of debt.

What we need is an affordable society for everyone regardless of wage.