To think we should all stop tipping now?

[MuggedByReality]

Tomorrow the minimum wage increases to £11.44 per hour. That’s an increase of 9.8%. It also increased by 9.7% last year. Inflation is currently 4.5%.

This is obviously a very good thing for millions of workers in low paid employment across the country and, whatever else the government has got wrong, it deserves credit for pushing through such large increases.

The minimum wage is now set at a level at which it provides fair & reasonable pay for unskilled service industry work. Therefore tipping such workers is no longer necessary or appropriate, so I won’t be tipping anyone anywhere from now on. AIBU?

My son is 19yo and works part time in a cinema chain. He gets £7.40ph. I don't understand minimum wage or how it works?!

Such workers ? What/who are you on about do you mean shop assistants or carers or wait staff or maybe hairdressers how many of them do you tip?

We’re all different but personally I’ve worked in customer service (waitressing) and I was tipped sometimes , but I never felt entitled to it or felt any type of negativity towards the customers who never.

Btw I am always polite and cordial to customer service workers and pay for my bill.

That is what they’re entitled to - mutual respect and me paying for my food and customer service which is included in the bill. I don’t need to pay extra to say thank you. I use my words for that.

I have to say I found customers far more rude and stressful working in a call centre (while also living in a grotty flatshare) than waitressing . People are so emboldened through a phone - and call centre staff don’t get tips. It seems some people are “appreciating” one type of service industry workers over the other?

Also TAs are not getting tips and sometimes doing very hard work involving being regularly hit and spat on by kids.

He gets minimumwage for an over 18 but under 21.

That is minimum wage for his age
It will go up to £8.60 on 1st April. So your son will be better off.

I have no issue tipping if I think it is going directly to the person that has given me great service or gone above and beyond

I hate the way it is creeping in and the way whilst paying by card in a pub for a pint whilst stood at the bar it automatically asks for “ gratuity “

went out for Sunday lunch at a decent gastro pub last weekend

food was great service a bit meh and had to remind them twice to bring drinks and coffee only to be confronted with the car machine suggesting 10 , 15 or 20 % tip
I added 10% our total bill for 3 courses was circa £150

I won’t be going back , long gone are the days of slipping someone a red one for looking after you

I always try and tip. Living wage is shite. I thought we tipped for individual extended personal service.

IE hairdressers, restaurants, taxis. Not shop assistants.

If you think £11.44 is too low, what should the minimum wage be? And do you think it’s fair to expect small independent businesses to pay a higher rate in the current economic situation?

I never tip but DP overtips so I make it even. For the PP school worker yes but you do get considerably more holidays than the 28 mandatory days which include BH. I would rather have your holidays! All summer, Easter and Christmas alone must be what 50 days?

I've never tipped anyone in the UK. It's not remotely necessary.

The minimum wage is now set at a level at which it provides fair & reasonable pay for unskilled service industry work. Therefore tipping such workers is no longer necessary or appropriate

YABU for thinking minimum wage is fair and reasonable, and also for thanking the government for doing the absolute bare minimum to make it look like they’ve solved a problem that they created. I’ll keep tipping because in my opinion
it is both necessary and appropriate.

I don’t tip. I just don’t get that tipping malarkey.

Many people would argue that if you can't afford to pay your staff a living wage, you don't actually have a viable business.

That’s quite a neat guideline 😊

It's not a living wage though is it?
Try living off that alone and paying everything yourself including a mortgage/rent
You'll get 25% off your council tax but all the other bills are down to you

That’s a good point that teens don’t earn anywhere near the max minimum wage.

I only ever tip the young girl who washes my hair in the hair dressers. I never tip anyone else.

Minimum wage goes up and the price you pay for services goes up. So no one is better off.

@Whatevershallidowithmylife you do realise that school workers do not get paid for holidays.

But by normalising it, you’re creating a precedent for everyone, and not everyone is as blessed as you financially. It’s awkward and humiliating if an extra £2 on top of the bill is just too much.

And they get paid well for it. No-one tips me in my Government admin job. Or my friend in her busy and hectic GP surgery Receptionist job, OR my cousin who is a busy and frazzled nurse. I have not 'tipped' a soul for about 10 years now. No-one deserves a tip more than anyone else. Everyone works hard!

@MuggedByReality YANBU. 'Tipping' needs binning. I find it naff and coarse now, and smacks of people being showy, and patronising. 'Ooooh I know you are poor let me help support you.' Ewwwww, how condescending. 😖 Suggests you think the person 'serving' you is beneath you.

You think £6.40 is fair?

Key thing there being still minimum wage…its not liveable, especially single or single parents.

roughly equals if they work 40h a week it works out about £23k a year which is still well bellow the national average of currently £34k(?) and again the industry is usually paid by the hour, zero hour contracts potentially, little or no sick pay for a day off etc. ive family who work in the industry and when one broke their leg the company (big multi million pound company) they were only entitled to statutory gov sick pay

i also hate the term unskilled. I have 2 degrees and a cushy (stressful af job now) but have also worked in those labelled as “unskilled” including hospitality, care worker, and cleaner and personally think theres way more skill involved and the stress from the jobs than people think, as well as poor pay only added to the stress. I was younger so got the younger rate but lived alone with no family support or financial help so the tips sometimes meant “ooo i can put £10 on the electric” as opposed to sit in the dark.

some rely on those tips (not as much as the US) but the late nights, the constant need to put on a face they deserve those tips theres so much to juggle and remember. And if i ever hear an argument “they should get a better job” if everyone did that who would there then be left.

everyone deserves a liveable wage, this increase is not. Percentage wise it may seem a lot but the reality is very different. Sooo keep tipping.

You aren't working the holidays though are you? Unless you are employed by an agency as a teacher but still have work to do at home?

No not working in the holidays the price I pay is at least £2.50 is taken for every hr worked