Any other Christians annoyed at what society has turned Easter into?

[Opol]

I’m resigned that the same has been done to Christmas. But for me that is “only” the birth of Christ.

As a Roman Catholic, Easter is of far more importance to me. For me, God’s love for humanity meant he sacrificed his only son. Jesus’ resurrection is literally the embodiment of the victory of light over darkness, good over evil etc.

I don’t wish to gate keep but seeing it reduced to Easter baskets and chocolate rabbits is unpleasant to witness. I’m more annoyed at society making everything hollow and superficial via consumerism and over consumption.

Of course Christians in the Southern Hemisphere are allowed to celebrate Easter. Why on earth would I say they wouldn't (and why would they listen to me if I did)?!

The OP started a thread about how Easter has become commercialised and devoid of any spiritual meaning, Christian or otherwise. Several posters then (some in quite a rude way) posted very similar variations on "well, Christianity incorporated various elements of pre-Christian springtime festivals" as if that's some kind of gotcha. I am trying to explain as a Christian that yes, we know, and celebrating spring is part of my religion too.

Anyway, as I have said, you do you. Happy Easter, spring equinox celebration, Ostara, four day bank holiday piss-up, or whatever you are celebrating.

I wonder how many Christians in the UK are aware of the history of Christianity in the UK and all the things that happened in the UK in the name of Christianity - especially depending what sect you belonged to.

*See my previous list

What? I said how other people worship isn’t any of her business. It’s not. How other people worship their personal deities is no one’s business but their own. As many have repeated on this thread. How I worship is personal to me and no one else needs to insult it because it’s nothing to do with them.

How bizarre to argue that people should have to share their personal beliefs with everyone else?

I’m more bothered by the RC oppression of women and kids, tbh.

This is literally teaching kids correct history 👏🏻 mine will learn the same. If they get to learn about other religions in school they'll for sure be learning the true history of Christianity and it's origins as well as the true history of paganism and how to continue to practice it nowadays

Interesting article on Exodus and slavery.
I can’t remember who first brought it up or I’d tag.
Apologies OP for a bit of a detail here.
Its worth reading to the end for a sort of modern day comparison.

Funny the way that's being massively glossed over isn't it? Where is the Christianity in exporting babies, imprisoning mothers, slave labour. Where the fuck is it? Where is the Christianity in making a rape victim keep their unwanted baby? Why do these people feel so 'right' in their beliefs?

And of that half, most of that 40% are over the age of 50 (see the 2021 census data).

This demonstrates how Christianity here is on the way out. It just does not resonate or mean anything to most younger Brits now.

Celebrating the seasons, nature, family, ancient symbolism and our beautiful land is much more meaningful to most younger Brits 🥰

No. It’s a metaphor. A reminder that we are neither perfect nor infallible. And that we should always question ourselves and do not elevate ourselves above others.

Not all denominations teach that we are born with a sin, btw, but this is the meaning of it.

History teaches us that great atrocities are usually committed when people decide they have all the answers and stop questioning themselves. This is why pride is one of the 7 deadly sins.

This is why I worship the Easter Bunny only

Absolutely. It's almost as if we're going back to our pre Christianity roots, I see so many more people doing this rather than blindly following the church

Enjoy 😍

There’s a lot of violence committed in the name of nearly all religions including Paganism
A lot of violence is still being committed in the name of religion to this very day.

Its up to everyone what they want their kids to learn and understand but important I think not to cherry pick just one religion.

That's all well and good until it's state imposed. And tbh, I think it's a bit of a cop out tbh.

@ImInTheBathRightNow

"I disagree. I found what she said insulting and as this is MN, as you say, I can express that. It’s a debate, this is my opinion, dint try and be the thread police"

OK - so only your opinion is valid and all other opinions are insulting and @Justpontificating post is dismissed as "thread police".

That is not an accepted definition of debate.

The Romans co opted Eostre, the pagan goddess of fertility and rebirth for their own ends.....

No I didn't. My post had two distinct paragraph. First of all, my post was in reply to another PP who pointed out that slavery was mentioned in the bible. I pointed out a specific section in the bible. The second paragraph referred to Christian values being interesting, since no-one can agree on what these values are. I hope that is clear.

I understood this thread to be about Christianity and not about analyizing all other religions for whataboutisms.

It’s a historical record of how things were at the time. Nothing more. Hadith tells us that the Great Prophet married a 9-year-old child. Also a sign of the times.

Plus, this is from the Old Testament- this part of the Scripture is similar in all three Abrahamic religions.

Christianity has the New Testament where Jesus parts with the old ways. This is where Christianity is different.

See - I am not sure how much Christianity does part.

This is based on a recent thread.

I'd love for that poster to come back and explain how I'm in the wrong.
But I bet they won't be able to accurately defend it.

Always hilarious how atheists are indoctrinating our children by teaching them the truth and not allowing them to be bullied through life by the belief of a misogynistic evil being in the sky who judges people on how much they worship him.

Except I haven’t said that. You said you piece, I responded. I did y say you couldn’t post online, I said I found what you said offensive and that it wasn’t your right to know how other people worship if they worship privately. That person interjected and I said they were trying to police my response because they were trying to tell me what I was and wasn’t allowed to post. I stand by the fact that how others privately worship is no one else’s business

@mintcocoa There's some difficulty in thrashing this issue without taking into account the context of all what I've said previously on the debate about "Christian values". Slavery may have been mentioned in the old testament, but it was definitely practiced by "Christians" in a relatively not too distant past.

Me too! I don't know how you can argue with teaching kids correct history, that way they have a full picture of what has happened and not some state biased version of it.

I’m far more bothered by the current oppression of women and kids by countries and religions that are currently far far more oppressive and always have been.

Its worth mentioning as an aside the ‘Magdalene hospitals’ you’re referencing didn’t act in isolation. Parents didn’t want their pregnant unmarried daughters in their homes, in those days it brought shame on the family. The families wanted rid of the babies and clearly some sort of punishment for the girls. It’s also worth mentioning there was no state support and no jobs available for unmarried mothers so if the family didn’t want you it was the streets or the church.
There was both a lack of Choice and humanity by both Christians, non Christians and the State.

Its worth pointing out that many cultures and countries still have this attitude today with many so called honour killings, stoning or public whippings as punishment.

I think children should learn about all aspects of history, all religions, enough to make their own judgement. I went to a CofE primary school and then in secondary school studied philosophy and ethics and got a pretty well rounded view of mist religions, then studied history at Uni so again studied quite a lot. So I base my beliefs on what I know to be true throughout history and I feel most comfortable forgoing anything state imposed and instead going back to basics and would consider myself a pagan, celebrating nature and seasons, and also researching lots of different pagan cultures just out of interest as I didn't get to learn a lot of that in education.