Any other Christians annoyed at what society has turned Easter into?

[Opol]

I’m resigned that the same has been done to Christmas. But for me that is “only” the birth of Christ.

As a Roman Catholic, Easter is of far more importance to me. For me, God’s love for humanity meant he sacrificed his only son. Jesus’ resurrection is literally the embodiment of the victory of light over darkness, good over evil etc.

I don’t wish to gate keep but seeing it reduced to Easter baskets and chocolate rabbits is unpleasant to witness. I’m more annoyed at society making everything hollow and superficial via consumerism and over consumption.

Think@Opol is ‘more annoyed at making Easter hollow and superficial via consumerism and overconsumption’

I doubt one extra potato comes within those realms

@Minymile

"Forgive me @1dayatatime if I’ve read this wrong but it seems quite plain that you are saying the two are much the same, in terms of outcome. ie.. There’s little difference.
That’s what ‘a grey area’ means"

Exactly both in terms of outcome (ie an uplifting experience) and in the actual act. For one person going for a walk and enjoying the countryside might be just that. For another person going for a walk and enjoying the countryside might be your religion and a spiritual experience.

But whilst out walking myself it's impossible to tell the difference between the two groups, not that it makes any difference because both cases provide an uplifting experience.

Equally in a church it's impossible to tell who is there for the architecture and historical interest and who is there for their religion and spiritual experience and again not that it makes any difference because both cases provide an uplifting personal experience.

Dogs love eggs ( tbf they’ll eat most things ).
Have you tried carrots yet, mine go mad for a carrot

I was refering to what's in the bible in that paragraph. This type of picking and choosing is what Christians are really good at. Christians are still supposed to adhere to the 10 commandments which is....in the old testament. From what I remember Jesus did refer to some of them.

I think you’ll find above @1dayatatime explained their correct use of the term
’grey area’

Maybe not the extra potato, but it was followed by a delicious sticky toffee pud that I definitely over-consumed 🐷

They adapted elements of a pagan spring festival when shoehorning the Christian faith onto pagan countries/tribes

YABU make it what you want from it

we have just got back from northern Italy, and Easter is massive hugely important celebration as you state, in every street, there are decorations, in most streets you see homage to statues and gifts left, every church has baskets of "palms" that people can take in tradition. Every church has lists of masses that are being held, we didn't realise not being Catholic and had to ask...

Can absolutely guarantee that in Rome it's not about Easter bunnies and chocolate... there the Pope delivers a weekly Wednesday and Sunday sermon, you can bet the area is filled with Catholics.

If you don't like what it is, then immerse yourself in what you want it to be. Find out where in (or outside) your area that celebrates in a more acceptable way.

Of course social media and supermarkets and subsequently TV adverts are all about the marketable elements... that sells stuff, they sell stuff, they encourage the buying of stuff..that's what they do.

doesn't mean you have to interact.

We've never had a dog. DH had one for years, and BF has had a couple. They tell me things from time to time, and I'm quite shocked! But really I'm just totally ignorant. My DD would love a dog, but we went through the costs and it just isn't possible. Imo, you shouldn't just get a dog and not be able to pay to look after them

Yes they love it! And good for a nice shiny coat too. Mine isn’t a fan of carrots unless they are hidden in meat!

OP is right on one thing though. It is hollow, well, the eggs are anyway

Pagans aren't monopolising but saying that elements of pagan festivals were used when Christianity was taking over. Plenty of people in the southern hemisphere celebrate a Christian Easter when it's not spring, should they not be allowed?

But you don’t need to know. It’s not your business. There’s no ‘grey area’, you just can’t differentiate because it’s nothing to do with you.

I wasn’t saying Christians don’t follow the Old Testament ( see previous post) I was pointing out the ‘picking and choosing’ Christianity as the only religion that does, when in fact it clearly isn’t.

This is what critiques of Christianity are really good at…Forgetting Christianity is not the only religion. There are many that follow very similar paths,

That’s a shame, the bunny filled mine!

@1dayatatime can talk about their own experience if they want to.
This is MN.
Its exactly their business to say as they like.
They are not being rude or calling people names or dismissing people in a nasty derogatory manor. They are saying Nothing that is against MN guidelines.
They can say what they like and compare how they like in their own experience.

She talked about Christian values and gave a quote from Exodus.

And yes - Exodus is part of the story of the Abrahamic God.

So deciding what are the values of the Abrahamic God - and how they relate to Christian values is an interesting discussion - and relevant.

But people don't seem to know what exactly Christian values are. The ones that "this country were built on".

It's a meaningless phrase

I disagree. I found what she said insulting and as this is MN, as you say, I can express that. It’s a debate, this is my opinion, dint try and be the thread police

I am sure a thread on "What Christian values was the UK built on" would be very interesting.

Well I did you'll be happy to know.
I told my children about pagens and other old Gods then how Christianity killed and hurt anyone who followed their beliefs, how they forced them to believe in what they wanted.

In other words you're selectively indoctrinating them according to your own prejudices. Enjoy your chocolate.

I disagree.
PP picked out a particularly ( these days) shocking extract from Exodus as an example that Christian values are shocking.
The result sounds shocking that Christians would ‘follow’ such a thing and yet failed to mention, conveniently, that Exodus is Old Testament and so not unique to Christianity but also Judaism.

Freedom and tolerance in the Catholic church. Right.

So it's common to both religions.

Does that mean it's a Judeo- Christian value?

What are Christian values - from what I understand, some Christians are very much Old Testament, some are more New Testament

It seems like there is disagreement amongst Christians what Christian values actually are.

And some values are more preferred over others.

No I taught them fact.
Are you saying what I said was wrong?

Do you make sure you teach your children the violence committed under the church?
Or do you indoctrinate them and only cherry pick the pretty bits and miss out how the story really started?

What an odd comment to make when it was in fact you that said it wasn’t any of PPs business 😳🤣.
Thats more like ‘police’ speak