Kids in changing room at gym

[Snowypony]

Yesterday I was running late for my aqua gym class

i already had my swimming costume on under my clothes

i I ran in the changing rooms and there was a boy in there who was taller than me

i didn’t have time to question the Mum - he had clearly started puberty. He watched me get changed which left me very uncomfortable

i I got in the pool and my friend saw I was a bit upset and asked why. I explained and said the boy was about 12. There are no changing rooms at my gym - it’s just benches so you have to get naked when changing

my friend went over and spoke to the Mun who got really angry and said he’s entitled to be in there he’s only 11

when I got out they’re left but I still went and complained to the gym staff.

I don’t have a ds only dd so I’ve never had this issue. But is it reasonable to expect an 11 year old to use their own sex changing room?

What actually is your argument then?

@HaPPy8 @LemonPeonies totally disagree about an 11 year old boy being more vulnerable in the male changing rooms. And sending him in a cubicle in the FEMALE changing rooms!
This child is going to senior school....
At that age they are aware of difference in male and female bodies...

He should not be getting changed where young vulnerable girls are getting changed! At his age I had started my periods..had breast, had pubic and underarm hair.

I have a young daughter and my husband wouldn't take her into male changing rooms. We use a pool with a family room set up.
I don't see how mums and sons are any different.

Why? Are you embarrassed by your misunderstanding?

Mmm, I've read through her posts. She's stopped taking him swimming now he's 11 which is better than nothing I suppose. She also states boys in the changing room wouldn't bother her or any other women she knows. Which means nothing.
But I did get the wrong end of the stick and though she was still carting her 11 year old into the female changing room.
Apologies @Mrbumpssmile 💐

There is no misunderstanding on my part.
You do not need to speak for others who are perfectly capable of speaking for themselves - perhaps you should be embarrassed at over stepping.

I’m not trying to be funny. I’m trying to have a conversation with the adults on this thread, while you talk nonsense because you haven’t understood what has been written.

How about you stop talking to me if it’s bothering you?

The biggest issue is that thinking because boys being in there doesn't bother her then it shouldn't bother anyone else. That's an assumption. It does bother other people, girls and women, as evidenced by this thread.

I am trying to stop talking to you, but you keep answering for other people and making unusual comments directed at me - if you could stop that, as already asked, I'll happily ignore whatever you say.
For what feels like the hundredth time, I am not the one speaking nonsense. You not agreeing or even understanding the actual point does not make my point nonsense. Please just stop.

Ah, yes, you would like to be able to get people to gang up on one poster because they have believed your misrepresentation of her posts, and you don’t want anyone to interfere with that.

You have quoted pretty much all my posts 🤷‍♀️ try just not doing that.

I didn't misinterpret anyone's post.
I am happy to interact directly with the poster (@Mrbumpssmile) and none of your comments have added to that interaction.
Your ramblings are just that, ramblings.
I am ignoring you now, ramble away, it says more about you than anyone else......tschüssy tschüss.

Ok, if you like.

That's been said a few times on this thread. I can't understand grown women who think they speak on the behalf of all women and girls. When it's pointed out to them they say they that wasn't the intent but it was. Why say it if not?
It's hard as a parent to a daughter to listen to the 'but my Henrys not like that' crew, the boys in the changing rooms, girls having to push their discomfort aside so the boys feeling dont get hurt, the whole boys will be boys mentality that's forced on little girls from starting school onwards. It is more prevalent today than it ever has been and its all down to entitlement and shit parenting. Us and our daughters deserve our own spaces. Please keep 8+ year old boys out of them.

(completely off topic but @KeinLiebeslied54321 have i found a fellow Kraftklub fan?)

@Prinnny

My child is not yet of the age for this to be an issue.

However, we have probably about 80% of the time come across places that do not have a disabled change or disabled toilet - due to not having the space there in the first place or it being renovated.

For instance we were in a hotel pool in London recently, the ‘change space’ was open with a few lockers as a screen between it and the pool, there were a few cubicles with flimsy see through shower curtain…. Everyone, male, female, young, old, disabled and able were having to get on with it.

Other instances have been being at a museum where the disabled toilet is out of order… rather than let him poo on the floor I accompanied him into the women’s toilets because there was no other option.

Many women’s toilets have signs up saying there is a male cleaner coming in… to be honest I am more worried about that (and a full grown man pretending to be the cleaner) than a mother bringing in a disabled boy to use the bathroom and supervising him the entire time. (Where there is no other choice).

If the space is clearly unisex then no problem as everyone is making a conscious choice to use that space.

A male cleaner sign allows women and girls the choice to access that space or not.

If there are no accessible facilities for your disabled male child if over 8 yo then you need to be complaining about that to the venue. You do not have the right to take your over aged son in to the female space. Females have the right to feel comfortable in a female space.

That wasn't what inspired the name, however - THANK YOU, because I am now listening to that song and downloading the whole album, as I think it's my kind of music! 😁

No one sensible would expect a young disabled child to poo on the floor rather than use a cubicle in the women’s bathroom while accompanied by his mother.

In the real world disabled children do have to use the bathroom, and if the accessible one is out of order or inside the gendered bathroom then the choices are the floor or a gendered bathroom (if they are lucky).

@funinthesun19 sorry that there isn't adequate facilities in some places for your son, however, this does not mean he should be in female spaces and yes I absolutely would call out any parent transgressing the boundaries of women and girls.

What do we do when places put the accessible toilet inside the gendered bathrooms?

Accessible toilets are only in sex specific changing rooms if there is one in the female and one in the male changing rooms.

@Kitesinthesky That hotel pool sounds horrendous and I am sure many people would not use it after seeing the changing facilities.

I never mentioned pooing on the floor or say that is what should happen.

If that was the case and the accessible was ooo I would have asked management to close off the male toilet to allow me to see to my son. I would not have decided go ignore the boundaries of women & girls.

I have never seen a situation where there is not a radar accessed toilet in that situation.
My leisure centre has a disabled toilet in the sex specific changing rooms, plus a separate radar accessed toilet with a shower. But the centre do not give a key to over anxious mums who just want to be with their son. It is for those who are disabled and can not physically change without help.

Yes, but if the person with the child is a woman?

@MaterialGirlAllDay and if they won’t/cant?