To want every woman in England to vote Tory at the GE

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Wow. I started a thread with 1000 posts on a topic in 12 hours and Mumsnet got ‘full’

One more off the bucket list!

So MN told me to start a new thread if I wanted to post anything else. I didn’t particularly but there were some queries raised in the first thread.

Thank you to all first thread posters, even the small minority who were abusive to me and/or my opinions. Coherent arguments may have been more persuasive.

I have read many posts, but not all. I do have work to do!

In answer to some queries:

Yes I was drunk - explains GR typo in the first title not GE. Although that could well have been a Freudian slip too.

I am English living in England.

I’m not an entitled git living in a Stately home eating cucumber sandwiches. Like most I have been hit very hard by mortgage rate and utility price rises.

I restricted my request to English voters because I don’t understand other UK countries voter motivations.

a) Scotland has voted in a party which in my opinion is morally bankrupt (maybe financially too?) and totally incompetent.

b) Wales has elected a party which means when they go for a drive they’ll likely be overtaken by cyclists - maybe very fit joggers too

c) I genuinely don’t understand Northern Ireland politics. Didn’t even know there were no Tories there till reading it on one of the posts.

Totally get why so many won’t vote Tory, but for me freedom of speech is a die in a ditch issue.

Here’s what Angela Eagle is reported to have said will be in the Labour manifesto:

“• Strengthening the law so anti-LGBT+ hate crimes are treated as aggravated offenses”

For this I read anyone stating biological facts risks being banged up. JKR no doubt top of their hit list.

So give me another option to stop this madness other than vote Tory.

If all posters on the first thread had said they weren’t going to vote Labour due to their threat to women’s rights maybe Labour would have paused for thought about their policies. But seems very many women will vote Labour anyway so they don’t have to worry.

Very very happy to vote Labour and kick the Tories out if they will commit unequivocally to protect women’s rights, parents rights and freedom of speech. Otherwise not a chance.

Not a chance I will vote conservative. They have completely fucked us. I just can't see how the average working people of this country can survive another 4 years down this road.

I was thinking the same thing!

I’m sure we will rejoin at some point, I’ve seen it mentioned then denied, so no one really knows for definate

Posie Parker's party for women

Scouser here, hell could freeze over and I STILL wouldn't vote Tory!

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Are you a conservative spad? it seems a v odd post

Rather than get abusive, give me your views, I’m interested!

So the 14 years of f&cking the country over is irrelevant? Can you afford private healthcare? Can all your family and friends? Can you afford a private carer? What planet are you on? The Tories in their current guise are corrupt! I will NEVER vote Tory, mainly because I give a shit about other people and not just myself.

Do you have anything to share about 'Labour turning on the trans issue'?

It's a big blocker for me. Starmer being unable to describe what a woman is will have lost him votes (it did mine).

As a public sector worker there is not a chance in hell that I would vote for those fuckers

It doesn’t appear to have lost him very many votes if this thread and its predecessor are anything to go by.

I live in Scotland. We don't do Tory here.

Have you not been reading the thread?! Plenty of views expressed by many!

I think the high ground I stand on for never having voted Tory in my life (I'm 55) just gets higher everyday.

@blossomtoes

Most (none?) of my friend's aren't on Mumsnet.

Starmer's stance is a massive thing for us.

There have been over 1000 posts over two threads saying pretty much the same thing.

How many friends do you have?

So it might be in your circle.

It isn't a priority for most of the electorate.

@PinkBumblebee i actually don’t know where to start with the fairytale you’ve concocted there and notice other people are starting to. So I’ll say one thing. Boris Johnson got us through and was ‘good’ was he?

Do you have any knowledge at all over his mismanagement of the pandemic or are you so off radar you missed it? My husband is a senior medic. He bust a gut through that time, he literally was fighting a war, whilst Boris Johnson ensured he gave the PPE contacts to newly founded companies ran by donors whilst overlooking existing PPE suppliers. Hence crap and missing PPE. Medics died. My husband could’ve died. But that would have been ok because that PPE money had to go to another incompetent Tory party donor.

I’ve always detested the Tory party but after that it’s personal, visceral rage towards them.

I honestly don’t know how the families of those who died in care homes or whilst working in hospitals can bare it.

But good old Boris eh?

Must be great to be that pig ignorant actually, to be able to pretend the Tories have done anything other than balls up everything.

@PinkBumblebee
Again, sorry you missed my question. Care to answer?

I bet she missed the part where people were dying alone because their families couldn’t visit while he was having (illegal) parties.

Good old Boris hey?

Have not met ONE person who is prioritising the trans issue in their voting. Not one.

Because with the state the country is in and the crisis our world is facing that would be utter madness!

This ! Heating your home, paying bills and feeding your family is far more of a priority for most

@CantFindTheBeat the majority of my friends aren't on Mumsnet either, but weirdly they aren't blinkered single issue voters. This is because they are women who have families, know people with disabilities and have watched the fallout of Brexit. Amongst many other things.

They aren't voting Tory.

@PinkBumblebee seriously, read the full thread. Then go back and look up what actually happened during the global financial crisis, who enthusiastically backed the war in Iraq and what NHS waiting lists were like in 2010.

Personally, as someone with two disabled adult children, a vote for the Tories would be an utter betrayal of them and their futures.

We need to applaud those who "work" for the NHS for its continued demise. They're doing us a great favour in steering it towards the much needed privatisation.

Then and only then will the entitled deadwood cease to be the burden of the taxpayer.