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Hurrydash · 2024-03-29T18:00:31+00:00

Wow. I started a thread with 1000 posts on a topic in 12 hours and Mumsnet got ‘full’ One more off the bucket list! So MN told me to start a new thread if I wanted to post anything else. I didn’t particularly but there were some queries raised in the first thread. Thank you to all first thread posters, even the small minority who were abusive to me and/or my opinions. Coherent arguments may have been more persuasive. I have read many posts, but not all. I do have work to do! In answer to some queries: Yes I was drunk - explains GR typo in the first title not GE. Although that could well have been a Freudian slip too. I am English living in England. I’m not an entitled git living in a Stately home eating cucumber sandwiches. Like most I have been hit very hard by mortgage rate and utility price rises. I restricted my request to English voters because I don’t understand other UK countries voter motivations. a) Scotland has voted in a party which in my opinion is morally bankrupt (maybe financially too?) and totally incompetent. b) Wales has elected a party which means when they go for a drive they’ll likely be overtaken by cyclists - maybe very fit joggers too c) I genuinely don’t understand Northern Ireland politics. Didn’t even know there were no Tories there till reading it on one of the posts. Totally get why so many won’t vote Tory, but for me freedom of speech is a die in a ditch issue. Here’s what Angela Eagle is reported to have said will be in the Labour manifesto: “• Strengthening the law so anti-LGBT+ hate crimes are treated as aggravated offenses” For this I read anyone stating biological facts risks being banged up. JKR no doubt top of their hit list. So give me another option to stop this madness other than vote Tory. If all posters on the first thread had said they weren’t going to vote Labour due to their threat to women’s rights maybe Labour would have paused for thought about their policies. But seems very many women will vote Labour anyway so they don’t have to worry. Very very happy to vote Labour and kick the Tories out if they will commit unequivocally to protect women’s rights, parents rights and freedom of speech. Otherwise not a chance.

AllPrincessAnneshorses · 29/03/2024 21:33

ODFOD

Sass53271 · 29/03/2024 21:33

pointythings · 29/03/2024 21:30

@PinkBumblebee are you interning for the Conservative Party? Because that was a mishmash of lies and misrepresentation that would get you a job there if not. Also paragraphs are helpful in order to make long posts more legible.

Quite - any time I hear anyone spout rubbish like this I just think they must be a bit thick. What other explanation can there be?!

BIWI · 29/03/2024 21:33

pointythings · 29/03/2024 21:30

@PinkBumblebee are you interning for the Conservative Party? Because that was a mishmash of lies and misrepresentation that would get you a job there if not. Also paragraphs are helpful in order to make long posts more legible.

Correct spelling wouldn't go amiss either.

JimmyGrimble · 29/03/2024 21:34

PinkBumblebee · 29/03/2024 21:25

I’m new here so if I upset anyone, sorry! Long post but dying for feedback as I seem to be looking at politics different to most.
yes I’ll vote for conservatives ……,, shock horror!
I’m not bothered about who said what or did what we are human, we make mistakes we are all guilty. I look at what each party does. What it does for us all. What it is doing to our country. Labour consistently for as long as I can remember have always bankrupted the country, leaving the incoming party to sort it out….. your probably screaming Toni Blair sun shone from his arse, really? He came into power with a massive chest of money built up by the conservatives, which he spent ….. god it must’ve felt like Christmas! He went to war based on lies, his wife bless her, opened the flood gates on human rights to the point no one can say anything without being sued, plus every illegal immigrant has permission to claim ‘rights’ to stay even if the are rapists, or murderers, ect . rather than put them straight on a plane home! The unions pulled the strings of the party to the point of crippling businesses, growth and investment, don’t forget we need these for the taxes that pay for most areas being governed. Gordon bless him, left a note after raiding pensions saying sorry piggy banks empty! This time we will be dragged into Europe, under European rules which will stifle growth for everyone and we will have more rules and control thrown at us, but we will be given a carrot of being able to live abroad so that’s ok!
Conservatives for all there faults have dealt with a couple of really shit years, and we were helped through them, thanks to Boris, yes he’s a shit but he was good when we needed him, unfortunately the bbc, who hate the conservatives, the Labour Party and every other jealous vindictive person rubbed there hands with glee and made sure every minor thing he did or didn’t do was blown up to be a best seller! compared to Europe we are now doing better than all of them. Interest will fall this year, inflation has dropped, pensioners are being helped, as are workers ect, they are trying to push through Rwanda but the lords not the government is stopping it happening, the EEC is also against it but send there own there?????? throwing money at the NHS won’t cure its problems it needs restructuring from the top, too many chiefs not enough Indians! More free child care - labour wont commit - everyone thinks labour will transform the Uk…… I for one see higher taxes if you dare put in the work! Businesses being clobbered, not just large ones but little ones too, higher rates, more pen pushers on pumped up salaries pushing through idiotic laws which don’t actually help the country but cost a fortune. The unions tightening there hold, let’s face it they are the paymasters of Labour! This is fine but, whilst some poor bastard is waving his board for a thousand pound pay rise, the actual leaders will be living in there 1 million pound house eating steak With a salary of 200,000 plus a year ect supposedly supporting the worker. Yeah right. Arthur S jumps to mind. What does everyone think?

Mental. Self serving. Bullshit.

PinkBumblebee · 29/03/2024 21:35

Totally agree with you, would be fascinating to actually know!0

Notreat · 29/03/2024 21:35

Labour consistently for as long as I can remember have always bankrupted the country,
Have you ever heard of Liz Truss?
Also the recession in 2008 was a worldwide recession not caused by Labour. Gordon Browns actions actually limited the effect of the recession.
The country is in a far far worse state now than it was in 2010 and the public services are also much worse.

vodkaredbullgirl · 29/03/2024 21:36

CBA to read all that Pinkbumblebee, rambled on about.

Aj485 · 29/03/2024 21:36

JimmyGrimble · 29/03/2024 21:32

I will never, ever vote Tory. I would rather eat my own hair. I believe that Labour is turning on the trans issue.
To AJ you have absolutely no clue what teachers and schools are now having to provide due to Tory mismanagement. If you think that’s funny you’re a twisted individual.

Tory mismanagement eh ! .... Now that really is funny ! 😂

Soigneur · 29/03/2024 21:37

pointythings · 29/03/2024 21:30

@PinkBumblebee are you interning for the Conservative Party? Because that was a mishmash of lies and misrepresentation that would get you a job there if not. Also paragraphs are helpful in order to make long posts more legible.

References to ‘the EEC’ suggest that @PinkBumblebee is rather too mature in years to be an intern. More likely a typical party member trotting out the usual lines that the rapidly dwindling membership repeat to themselves as infinitum at the local Conservative Club.

BIWI · 29/03/2024 21:38

Just cherry-picking one of the nonsensical statements from @PinkBumblebee:

This time we will be dragged into Europe, under European rules which will stifle growth for everyone and we will have more rules and control thrown at us, but we will be given a carrot of being able to live abroad so that’s ok!

You do realise that we haven't been part of the EU for over 4 years now? And we can't live abroad any more, as a consequence?

Notonthestairs · 29/03/2024 21:39

Notonthestairs · 29/03/2024 21:26

If donors (unions) own the Labour party, who owns the Conservatives?

Sorry this question was directed at @PinkBumblebee

Wishfulthinking1977 · 29/03/2024 21:40

I live in a Tory stronghold area, but although our MP has been pretty good, most voters in my area won't vote Tory due to Rishi being an unelected PM,( and disliking his stance), won't vote labour as they hate stamer and everything he stands for and basically see both parties under current leadership as two sides of the same coin! Green and lib dem are pretty much useless here so no idea what's going to happen! That's all talk within the town as it were! I think Tories will get in where I am again unless reform put a candidate in?! I'm not voting this time ( one thing I always told my kids not to do) but I just can't support something I don't believe in.

DrunkenElephant · 29/03/2024 21:40

BIossomtoes · 29/03/2024 21:05

I love the things we’d all rather do than vote Tory.

That could be a whole new thread, but for starters I would rather:

Walk over a thousand pieces of lego
Stand on an upturned plug barefoot
Crawl over broken glass

All of the above would be less painful than another term of these corrupt, immoral, heartless bastards.

ilovesooty · 29/03/2024 21:41

PinkBumblebee · 29/03/2024 21:25

I’m new here so if I upset anyone, sorry! Long post but dying for feedback as I seem to be looking at politics different to most.
yes I’ll vote for conservatives ……,, shock horror!
I’m not bothered about who said what or did what we are human, we make mistakes we are all guilty. I look at what each party does. What it does for us all. What it is doing to our country. Labour consistently for as long as I can remember have always bankrupted the country, leaving the incoming party to sort it out….. your probably screaming Toni Blair sun shone from his arse, really? He came into power with a massive chest of money built up by the conservatives, which he spent ….. god it must’ve felt like Christmas! He went to war based on lies, his wife bless her, opened the flood gates on human rights to the point no one can say anything without being sued, plus every illegal immigrant has permission to claim ‘rights’ to stay even if the are rapists, or murderers, ect . rather than put them straight on a plane home! The unions pulled the strings of the party to the point of crippling businesses, growth and investment, don’t forget we need these for the taxes that pay for most areas being governed. Gordon bless him, left a note after raiding pensions saying sorry piggy banks empty! This time we will be dragged into Europe, under European rules which will stifle growth for everyone and we will have more rules and control thrown at us, but we will be given a carrot of being able to live abroad so that’s ok!
Conservatives for all there faults have dealt with a couple of really shit years, and we were helped through them, thanks to Boris, yes he’s a shit but he was good when we needed him, unfortunately the bbc, who hate the conservatives, the Labour Party and every other jealous vindictive person rubbed there hands with glee and made sure every minor thing he did or didn’t do was blown up to be a best seller! compared to Europe we are now doing better than all of them. Interest will fall this year, inflation has dropped, pensioners are being helped, as are workers ect, they are trying to push through Rwanda but the lords not the government is stopping it happening, the EEC is also against it but send there own there?????? throwing money at the NHS won’t cure its problems it needs restructuring from the top, too many chiefs not enough Indians! More free child care - labour wont commit - everyone thinks labour will transform the Uk…… I for one see higher taxes if you dare put in the work! Businesses being clobbered, not just large ones but little ones too, higher rates, more pen pushers on pumped up salaries pushing through idiotic laws which don’t actually help the country but cost a fortune. The unions tightening there hold, let’s face it they are the paymasters of Labour! This is fine but, whilst some poor bastard is waving his board for a thousand pound pay rise, the actual leaders will be living in there 1 million pound house eating steak With a salary of 200,000 plus a year ect supposedly supporting the worker. Yeah right. Arthur S jumps to mind. What does everyone think?

I don't even know where to start with the inaccuracies there.

BIossomtoes · 29/03/2024 21:42

What does everyone think?

Of your post? I’d be banned if I said what I really think.

PinkBumblebee · 29/03/2024 21:43

Care to elaborate ……

ilovesooty · 29/03/2024 21:44

BIossomtoes · 29/03/2024 21:42

What does everyone think?

Of your post? I’d be banned if I said what I really think.

Absolutely.

IClaudine · 29/03/2024 21:44

pointythings · 29/03/2024 21:30

@PinkBumblebee are you interning for the Conservative Party? Because that was a mishmash of lies and misrepresentation that would get you a job there if not. Also paragraphs are helpful in order to make long posts more legible.

Attention to SPAG would also help!

BIossomtoes · 29/03/2024 21:45

Aj485 · 29/03/2024 21:36

Tory mismanagement eh ! .... Now that really is funny ! 😂

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Tragic rather than funny.

tiggergoesbounce · 29/03/2024 21:45

LaurieFairyCake · 29/03/2024 18:05

The Tories hate women way more than any other party

A stopped clock is right twice a day - that's the fucking Tories over this issue

They force women into poverty, they don't enforce child maintenance payments. The make childcare practically unaffordable forcing women to compromise their careers. They restrict HRT and fuck the NHS.

They're FUCKING SCUM who got one thing right !

This

DrunkenElephant · 29/03/2024 21:46

Oh bless you @PinkBumblebee. Do you read the Daily Mail by any chance?

Lets just say everything you’ve written is correct (it isn’t). The Tories have been in power for 14 years, they implemented austerity measures - is the economy better or worse now that it was 14 years ago? Whos lives have been improved by said measures? I mean 14 years is a long time to fix “what labour did”, isn’t it? So who is better off now than they were then? Which public services have improved in the last 14 years?

You’ve made yourself look rather silly. Some research before you vote might be helpful.

Dymaxion · 29/03/2024 21:46

I won't be voting Conservative, their track record on absolutely everything has been appalling for the last 14 years. The vast majority of the country is worse off, even those who would usually do well, are living with the highest tax burden since the 1940's, if they aren't using accountants to help them avoid it.

CantFindTheBeat · 29/03/2024 21:48

I agree with your principle, OP.

I can't vote for a party that can't/won't confirm what I am - an adult, human female.

ilovesooty · 29/03/2024 21:49

DrunkenElephant · 29/03/2024 21:46

Oh bless you @PinkBumblebee. Do you read the Daily Mail by any chance?

Lets just say everything you’ve written is correct (it isn’t). The Tories have been in power for 14 years, they implemented austerity measures - is the economy better or worse now that it was 14 years ago? Whos lives have been improved by said measures? I mean 14 years is a long time to fix “what labour did”, isn’t it? So who is better off now than they were then? Which public services have improved in the last 14 years?

You’ve made yourself look rather silly. Some research before you vote might be helpful.

Edited

It's a bit like reading Sophie Corcoran on X.

grinandslothit · 29/03/2024 21:49

It seems to me you're just another daft voter who latches on to one high-profile talking point of one political party while completely ignoring all the very other real things going on.

You must live a very charm life if that is your main concern when voting.

Are you okay with the Tories gutting your health care?