To want every woman in England to vote Tory at the GE

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Wow. I started a thread with 1000 posts on a topic in 12 hours and Mumsnet got ‘full’

One more off the bucket list!

So MN told me to start a new thread if I wanted to post anything else. I didn’t particularly but there were some queries raised in the first thread.

Thank you to all first thread posters, even the small minority who were abusive to me and/or my opinions. Coherent arguments may have been more persuasive.

I have read many posts, but not all. I do have work to do!

In answer to some queries:

Yes I was drunk - explains GR typo in the first title not GE. Although that could well have been a Freudian slip too.

I am English living in England.

I’m not an entitled git living in a Stately home eating cucumber sandwiches. Like most I have been hit very hard by mortgage rate and utility price rises.

I restricted my request to English voters because I don’t understand other UK countries voter motivations.

a) Scotland has voted in a party which in my opinion is morally bankrupt (maybe financially too?) and totally incompetent.

b) Wales has elected a party which means when they go for a drive they’ll likely be overtaken by cyclists - maybe very fit joggers too

c) I genuinely don’t understand Northern Ireland politics. Didn’t even know there were no Tories there till reading it on one of the posts.

Totally get why so many won’t vote Tory, but for me freedom of speech is a die in a ditch issue.

Here’s what Angela Eagle is reported to have said will be in the Labour manifesto:

“• Strengthening the law so anti-LGBT+ hate crimes are treated as aggravated offenses”

For this I read anyone stating biological facts risks being banged up. JKR no doubt top of their hit list.

So give me another option to stop this madness other than vote Tory.

If all posters on the first thread had said they weren’t going to vote Labour due to their threat to women’s rights maybe Labour would have paused for thought about their policies. But seems very many women will vote Labour anyway so they don’t have to worry.

Very very happy to vote Labour and kick the Tories out if they will commit unequivocally to protect women’s rights, parents rights and freedom of speech. Otherwise not a chance.

I agree with you on this issue but I'm in the hell will freeze over before I vote conservative camp. I'll be voting labour thanks.

Amen.

I think the fuck not, OP.

The Tories are overpaid wankers who have been privately educated and have no idea of real life! I hate that we are being governed by people who live the the high life and can't relate to any of us. A no from me, I mean brexit says it all, also so many other things.

Agree, take your rich arses, tax dodging and worker paid benefits into the real world!

Glad to see the comments here are majority positive.

I'd never vote Tory. Because I'm not a fucking psychopath.

I would genuinely rather be dead than vote Tory and I say that as a mother of young children

Nope, I wouldn't give them the steam off my piss.

No, as a women, I would rather walk around wearing a fake penis all year than vote Tory

I'm in Scotland and I will spoil my vote. I've researched the most effective way to spoil your vote in the hope that it gets seen by candidates and .

I might vote differently if the local candidates are sensible.

votingcounts.org.uk/spoilt-ballot

Christ, no. Never.

God I hope they never get in again. They’re pillaging this country. It’s a mess.

No, no, no, no, no.

Nobody with a concience, with any common decency at all would vote Conservative now.

Under John Major, hell even under 'Call me Dave' Cameron, I could through gritted teeth accept a difference in opinions and that not all Tories are scum.

Now I genuinely think you have to be a callous bigot who hates this country to vote Tory. I am thoroughly ashamed of my Daily Mail reading parents who will enevitably vote Tory as they always have done, and it makes them think they are above the working class oiks.

Is this thread only about England because the Tory party in Wales and Scotland aren't so deep in their own shit as that in England and so not in those other nations its not worth voting Tory?

If you are so utterly ignorant of U.K. history and politics that you genuinely didn’t know that NI has its own political parties I’m not sure that your opinions are worthy of consideration.

The irony of this OP calling other posters abusive!

Two pages in on the first thread and they’re calling anyone who disagrees on this an anti women activist.

Massive eyeroll

anti women activist

They were calling other posters Tory?

When I saw she had started a new thread at first I thought "for fuck sake not this again", but I'm actually enjoying watching OP getting her arse handed to her just as much the second time around. Carry on, OP!

Seeing all these posts has been an absolute tonic. It's given me hope that we might actually get the bastards out.

Bring on the GE!

What about men ?

I don't see anything gender specific in your itemisation of motivations.

For whom do you want them to vote, as there are quite a few of them now.

You do realise all this nonsense around certain trans people has happened under the Tory government I take it ? I don't recall women with dicks going to womens prisons over a decade ago. It's all pretty recent.

Dead God you are ignorant. Welsh drivers overtaken by cyclists? Ignorant nonsense. Do some reading for fuck's sake.

As much as I care about the issue I care about issues around children’s education, mental health services and supporting the vulnerable more and there is NO way I’d vote for that group of leeches!

If you're into freedom of speech, are you not concerned about the Tories making peaceful protest illegal? Between Boris dismissing parliament to block democratic process on Brexit - remember that? - and policing reform bills to make it illegal to go and protest they are unpicking our democracy.

There is absolutely no chance that I would vote for the tories. They are a bunch of entitled know it alls who know nothing but to pilfer from the taxpayers purse to give to themselves or their riches cronies. I can't wait to vote them out.

Are you sure that's not teachers you're talking about ?

Hell will freeze over before I vote Tory. They have done so much damage and brought about so much division over the last 14 years that they need consigning to the political wilderness for a very long time.