To want every woman in England to vote Tory at the GE

[Hurrydash]

Wow. I started a thread with 1000 posts on a topic in 12 hours and Mumsnet got ‘full’

One more off the bucket list!

So MN told me to start a new thread if I wanted to post anything else. I didn’t particularly but there were some queries raised in the first thread.

Thank you to all first thread posters, even the small minority who were abusive to me and/or my opinions. Coherent arguments may have been more persuasive.

I have read many posts, but not all. I do have work to do!

In answer to some queries:

Yes I was drunk - explains GR typo in the first title not GE. Although that could well have been a Freudian slip too.

I am English living in England.

I’m not an entitled git living in a Stately home eating cucumber sandwiches. Like most I have been hit very hard by mortgage rate and utility price rises.

I restricted my request to English voters because I don’t understand other UK countries voter motivations.

a) Scotland has voted in a party which in my opinion is morally bankrupt (maybe financially too?) and totally incompetent.

b) Wales has elected a party which means when they go for a drive they’ll likely be overtaken by cyclists - maybe very fit joggers too

c) I genuinely don’t understand Northern Ireland politics. Didn’t even know there were no Tories there till reading it on one of the posts.

Totally get why so many won’t vote Tory, but for me freedom of speech is a die in a ditch issue.

Here’s what Angela Eagle is reported to have said will be in the Labour manifesto:

“• Strengthening the law so anti-LGBT+ hate crimes are treated as aggravated offenses”

For this I read anyone stating biological facts risks being banged up. JKR no doubt top of their hit list.

So give me another option to stop this madness other than vote Tory.

If all posters on the first thread had said they weren’t going to vote Labour due to their threat to women’s rights maybe Labour would have paused for thought about their policies. But seems very many women will vote Labour anyway so they don’t have to worry.

Very very happy to vote Labour and kick the Tories out if they will commit unequivocally to protect women’s rights, parents rights and freedom of speech. Otherwise not a chance.

Or the Rwanda plan

Nope I'd rather poke myself in the eye than vote Tory.

They have done absolutely nothing for women, children, the disabled and people that aren't middle class males.

Unfortunately shoving through some last minute policies for child benefit and childcare costs will appeal to some women. Probably the same women who have no idea that they aren't properly funded and they are doing to get even more shafted in the coming years. Particularly when they want to retire or require adult social care in their old age.

I’m talking about our local council spending.

@Hurrydashmay I please urge you to up your game and fast.

Current polling puts the dearly beloved Sunak's seat at risk. I'm sure with your support, the Tories might rise to the dizzy heights of securing 100 seats.

https://www.bestforbritain.org/spring-2024-polling

Looking forward to further insightful posts soom.

Or Eat out to Help out, PPE fraud, track and trace and the rest.

If Sunak paid the same proportion of his income in taxes as teachers and nurses do, would the Exchequer gain more than your council apparently wastes?

Johnson's lawyers for partygate, Sunak's legal advice with his missing whatsapps

I am sure there is a lot more to add to the list

Dare we mention how much the one who was outlasted by a lettuce cost the country?

including her expenses,? she likes luxury trips

Did she have time for any trips?

Oops, wrong question, before Govey, Govey Govey gets excited.

Did she have time for any travel trips?

I got a Tory leaflet through my door today and ripped it up with disgust and immediately binned it!

@Meggie2008 I'm Scottish living in the South of England and my dead parents would haunt me if I even considered voting Tory, not that I would!

I think it was during her time as Foreign Secretary, a few lettuces ago

acottish Does not equal not Tory. There’s a lot of Tory voters in Scotland. So long as you don’t vote the morally incompetent SNP…..

Not forgetting the pension she can draw.

So here’s thing.

I’m not some sort of bot or from Tory spin central.

I don’t want another Tory government. I have never wanted one.

BUT any one with any perception - and I have been accused by many on these posts of not having any - needs to see that Labour pose a massive threat to women’s rights and freedom of speech.

I am appalled by some of the posts about how awful the Tories have been. Bad as I thought they are I was unaware about how awful.

So yes let’s not have 5 more years.

However, any woman not seeing Labour’s existential threat to women’s rights needs to take another look.

Please could someone come up with a better alternative than we’ll vote Labour because the Tories are so shit we’ll take restrictions on freedom of speech on the chin?

On some specific posts.

The one query quoted above. I think Kemi Badenoch’s school safety guidelines are very good. And whilst probably safeguarding both girls and boys, it would seem girls will benefit more. Anyone not read them then please do.

Also the government’s ban on the SNPs GRE bill seems a really great move.

The poster who told me I had my arse handed to me - right on - made laugh out loud.

The poster who suggested they threaten Labour candidates they’ll vote Tory unless they change their policies on women’s rights (but not actually ever voting Tory) spot on. This is the sort of creative dialogue we need.

To the poster who accused me of hyperbole on the Welsh 20 mph speed limit.
Cyclists can do way more than that.
Bolt had been recorded running in excess of 27 mph. Assuming there are some runners in Wales are 75% as quick then they could overtake a car doing 20. How embarrassing is that?

BTW I’m rubbish at apps. Those who asked why I didn’t enable voting - I didn’t know how. But I’ve read most of the posts and would have had very few yanbu ticks.

Also BTW have had lots of thanks from people who never posted.

Night all. Sleep well and Happy Easter!!

Sadly, for you, you'll find the vast majority of those voting Tory in Scotland are Scottish-based English-born voters.

Therefore, I would say Scottish = not Tory as a general rule.

I'd hazard a guess the same applies in Wales.

To the poster who accused me of hyperbole on the Welsh 20 mph speed limit Cyclists can do way more than that.
Bolt had been recorded running in excess of 27 mph. Assuming there are some runners in Wales are 75% as quick then they could overtake a car doing 20. How embarrassing is that?*

Aw, bless you, using Usain Bolt to bolster your hyperbole.🤣🤣🤣

There is a 20mph limit on residential streets. It is not a blanket 20mph speed limit. The only embarrassment here is you with your Tory-esque "in Labour run Wales" crap.

BTW I’m rubbish at apps. Those who asked why I didn’t enable voting - I didn’t know how. But I’ve read most of the posts and would have had very few yanbu ticks

"Would have had very few YANBU ticks"? Don't be daft. Most posters have said YABU!

I'm leaving the country if the Tories win again.

You're citing a 20mph speed limit in most urban areas and villages in Wales as a problem outweighing the most incompetent, corrupt, cronyist government we've ever seen?! A 20mph limit that exists in many urban areas and around schools in England already? And your reasoning is it's 'embarrassing' when you want to 'go for a drive'?

Honestly, you can't argue with stupid.

Just no. Have you seen the mess that the country is in ?

I am very unnerved about the idea of Labour winning. I was born under communist rule and - just no, never again. I chose Britain many years ago as a destination for the move because the politics looked sensible.

No chance in hell I'm voting for that bunch of cunts