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To want every woman in England to vote Tory at the GE

927 replies

Hurrydash · 29/03/2024 18:00

Wow. I started a thread with 1000 posts on a topic in 12 hours and Mumsnet got ‘full’

One more off the bucket list!

So MN told me to start a new thread if I wanted to post anything else. I didn’t particularly but there were some queries raised in the first thread.

Thank you to all first thread posters, even the small minority who were abusive to me and/or my opinions. Coherent arguments may have been more persuasive.

I have read many posts, but not all. I do have work to do!

In answer to some queries:

Yes I was drunk - explains GR typo in the first title not GE. Although that could well have been a Freudian slip too.

I am English living in England.

I’m not an entitled git living in a Stately home eating cucumber sandwiches. Like most I have been hit very hard by mortgage rate and utility price rises.

I restricted my request to English voters because I don’t understand other UK countries voter motivations.

a) Scotland has voted in a party which in my opinion is morally bankrupt (maybe financially too?) and totally incompetent.

b) Wales has elected a party which means when they go for a drive they’ll likely be overtaken by cyclists - maybe very fit joggers too

c) I genuinely don’t understand Northern Ireland politics. Didn’t even know there were no Tories there till reading it on one of the posts.

Totally get why so many won’t vote Tory, but for me freedom of speech is a die in a ditch issue.

Here’s what Angela Eagle is reported to have said will be in the Labour manifesto:

“• Strengthening the law so anti-LGBT+ hate crimes are treated as aggravated offenses”

For this I read anyone stating biological facts risks being banged up. JKR no doubt top of their hit list.

So give me another option to stop this madness other than vote Tory.

If all posters on the first thread had said they weren’t going to vote Labour due to their threat to women’s rights maybe Labour would have paused for thought about their policies. But seems very many women will vote Labour anyway so they don’t have to worry.

Very very happy to vote Labour and kick the Tories out if they will commit unequivocally to protect women’s rights, parents rights and freedom of speech. Otherwise not a chance.

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poetryandwine · 30/03/2024 11:31

@isitonly13years, you tagged me at the end of the first thread. It filled up before I could reply.

You asked where I suppose Labour will find the money to fix the damage caused by the fact that the Tories have been starving local councils (and you specifically blame Labour for unsafe schools, but that is controversial).

My answer: from increasing my taxes, I hope.

inabubble3 · 30/03/2024 11:33

I won’t be voting to tories- sorry.

poetryandwine · 30/03/2024 11:33

PS After fixing the corporate tax system and refraining from throwing ££££££ at their peers (in both senses of the word)

DaBlackCatsAreDaBestCats · 30/03/2024 11:37

Vote for lying, cheating, thieving, scumbags who made sure their mates made billions out of the pandemic and partied whilst folk in care homes died of the virus? Get a grip

donteatthedaisies0 · 30/03/2024 12:37

It seems in your opinion Scottish votes don't count , but I'll be voting Labour this year instead of SNP , Just to let you know .
Does it count now ?

donteatthedaisies0 · 30/03/2024 12:40

Oh and to let know tories invented the 'rape clause' .Care about women indeed 🙄 .

ThatsMsAtomicBob · 30/03/2024 12:48

Tories don't protect freedom of speech. They are the ones encouraging crackdowns on public protests, remember?

BippityBopper · 30/03/2024 12:56

Your post got removed didn't it? I remember the GR/GE typo.

neverbeenskiing · 30/03/2024 13:10

ThatsMsAtomicBob · 30/03/2024 12:48

Tories don't protect freedom of speech. They are the ones encouraging crackdowns on public protests, remember?

Indeed. This was pointed out on OP's last thread but it turns out it's only the freedom to speak on one particular topic she's worried about, and even then only if the speaker is in full agreement with her.

I could be wrong but Isuspect OP is also one of those people who says they want "freedom of speech", but what they actually want is freedom from criticism when they express views that others might find ignorant or offensive.

ilovesooty · 30/03/2024 13:10

BippityBopper · 30/03/2024 12:56

Your post got removed didn't it? I remember the GR/GE typo.

I think it got closed, rather than removed.

pointythings · 30/03/2024 13:12

ilovesooty · 30/03/2024 13:10

I think it got closed, rather than removed.

It filled up to the full 1000

BippityBopper · 30/03/2024 13:18

Is this a different thread? It had the same GR typo.

To want every woman in England to vote Tory at the GE
neverbeenskiing · 30/03/2024 13:21

BippityBopper · 30/03/2024 13:18

Is this a different thread? It had the same GR typo.

Different thread. Hers had the exact same title but this time she's fixed the typo.

BippityBopper · 30/03/2024 13:26

neverbeenskiing · 30/03/2024 13:21

Different thread. Hers had the exact same title but this time she's fixed the typo.

Aah OK.

ilovesooty · 30/03/2024 13:28

pointythings · 30/03/2024 13:12

It filled up to the full 1000

Thanks ( I wasn't there at the end)

ThatsMsAtomicBob · 30/03/2024 13:41

@neverbeenskiing thanks, I thought I was having some sort of short circuit. Tories are the worst thing to happen to the country, and I say that from the outside looking in.

JessS1990 · 30/03/2024 17:40

Thebestwaytoscareatory · 30/03/2024 08:54

Congrats on the new job at Tory HQ @Aj485, although you might want to complete the induction material before posting again as your deflection tactics aren't up to standard yet.

As for the subject of the thread.

If I was given sole power to choose the next government but had to choose between another term of the tories or a chicken that randomly selected policy by pecking at a set of tiles then I'd have to go with the chicken every time.

I'm not saying the chicken would be a great leader but at the very least having it restricted to picking policy from a set of tiles would introduce a level of consistence this current government can only dream of.

If we gave the chicken Sunak's policy wheel of fortune would we have fewer changes in direction?

Perhaps their spins who be luckier?

RobertaFirmino · 30/03/2024 17:46

Vote Tory? Goodness, no. I'd rather sit bare-arsed on a cactus.

JessS1990 · 30/03/2024 17:50

BippityBopper · 30/03/2024 13:18

Is this a different thread? It had the same GR typo.

Why would be worried whether or not Labour are committed to the Tories childcare policy?
Its not as if the Tories are committed to funding it...

ilovesooty · 30/03/2024 18:05

JessS1990 · 30/03/2024 17:50

Why would be worried whether or not Labour are committed to the Tories childcare policy?
Its not as if the Tories are committed to funding it...

They only proposed it because they know that they won't have to implement it.

Mammyloveswine · 30/03/2024 18:08

I would rather die than vote Tory.. the corrupt, lying, selfish, bastards.

BobbyBiscuits · 30/03/2024 18:13

The Tories despise women. Along with children, disabled people, brown people, elderly and sick and most of all poor people.
The only group they support are rich middle aged tax dodging men.

cardibach · 30/03/2024 18:35

SunshinDay · 30/03/2024 11:24

I'm a swing voter with 2 young daughters, which way do you think I'm going

For whoever will get the Tory out presumably, since women have borne the brunt of austerity.

Greenfluffycardi · 30/03/2024 18:37

PutOnYourRedShoesAndLetsDance · 29/03/2024 18:03

I'm not ashamed to admit l vote Conservative.. just had my local candidate to organise me a postal vote and he has just done that for me.
Pity the city l live in will always have a labour council though.. they spend too much on crap and their own expenses.

Do you live in my city. We too have a labour council that wastes money.

newnamethanks · 30/03/2024 19:00

Don't look at Sunak's expenses for his recent airplane jollies @Greenfluffycardi you'll pass out with horror.