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Friend’s Wedding Abroad…

159 replies

RichTea90 · 26/03/2024 17:56

Hi everyone, I hope you are well.

I’ve been invited to a friend from my postgraduate course’ wedding abroad in Croatia this August. I got the invite last year. I’m part of a “trio” of 2 other female friends and one of them is the bride. I very excitedly accepted the wedding invite, and myself and our other friend have booked an airbnb for one week. I was very excited, and happy to be going with our other friend too as its non-plus ones for us, and I don’t really know her other friends or family (though I’m invited to the hen do in June)

I met up with our other friend over the weekend, and she told me that our bride friend asked her to be one of her bridesmaids. This really upset me. I used to live near to them but I had to relocate due to my relationship ending at the time. It meant that the two of them grew closer together, and I was left out a lot of the time due to the distance. I kept going to visit the two of them when I could, but neither of them visited me.

I completely spiralled with overthinking and worrying at the weekend. It’s bringing so much up for me like I am not good enough, I’m not a valued friend, I’ve been singled out etc etc.

she has already selected 4 other bridesmaids last year, and our friend being a 5th was a later decision that was made a month ago. I feel a bit blindsided by it. It also means that on the morning of the wedding, I’ll just be on my own getting ready and making my way over etc, and none of this has been explained to me etc. I do struggle with anxiety anyway and that’s my own stuff that I’m receiving therapy for currently. This has put a large black cloud over the upcoming hen do and wedding for me and tbh, I really don’t feel like going anymore. I just have images of me really struggling with anxiety the whole time, and feeling alone and left out.

am I being completely irrational and unreasonable here? I feel completely horrible and don’t want to upset my friends or take away from her special day either.

p.s. I’m not really big on hen dos, and the whole bridal party/bridesmaids things personally. I find it all quite toxic and just full of drama.

OP posts:
PoppingTomorrow · 27/03/2024 06:18

RichTea90 · 26/03/2024 20:54

I don’t personally feel I am “getting shitty.”

I have feelings, and my feelings matter and are important too. I am meant to be a friend, and the very nature of friendships is that we care and respect one another.

and at what point has anyone shown that they don't respect or care for you?
@AnneLovesGilbert post was spot on not rude.

One of the first post was right - the bridesmaid choice isn't a comment on your worth or value as a person. You're just not as close as the other two- you told us why. I'm not sure what you were expecting to be "explained" to you. That happens in any friendship.

I get that it will have yaken the shin off things for a minute but you can go, or not go, but don't spin yourself a narrative about being disrespected.

Flubadubba · 27/03/2024 06:25

Why don't you make it into a holiday with your partner? You have the Air BnB already, so they could come along and keep you company, and find something to entertain themselves whilst you are at the wedding.

Rosesanddaisies1 · 27/03/2024 07:35

i Can’t really see any issues, it’s her wedding and her choice. It sounds like you don’t want to go by your negativity so consider cancelling, especially if you’ll be negative or grumpy whilst you’re away.

Sd352 · 27/03/2024 08:07

The bride has only been thoughtless in so far as she doesn’t have time to consider what each and every guest will be thinking / doing in the lead up to the wedding. You are imagining that she would have thought about what you would do for the few hours your other friend is doing bridesmaid duties while you are not but I can’t see a situation where a bride would have given this much thought. It’s a few hours, you can read a book, go for a swim, do whatever.

You really seem to be overreacting. Probably best for both you and the bride for you to walk away, you sound quite high maintenance and not compatible with the friend generally. Why should she NOT have multiple events for her wedding? Weddings are pretty much the only time in one’s life you can bring all friends and family together, especially if many live far away from where you do, and I can see why a couple would want to maximise that time.

AngelinaFibres · 27/03/2024 08:19

Allfur · 26/03/2024 18:54

Focus on the positives, it's still exciting you are going to a lovely event abroad, it will be an adventure

This. Plus being a bridesmaid looks fabulous on Instagram but is actually a PITA. You can wear something lovely, get changed in your own time and enjoy the day. Step out of your comfort zone and give it a go. You might be pleasantly surprised.

TempName247 · 27/03/2024 08:47

You are really going to drop your mate in it, you are concerned about not getting ready together but if you don’t go she will be staying on her own for the whole week, I actually think you are being quite selfish.

MyTravelMugIsForVodkaShhh · 27/03/2024 08:52

Vistada · 27/03/2024 05:37

Sorry OP, YABU

FWIW I get it, I do, you had an expectation of this holiday which has now shifted.

I believe the bride had been somewhat thoughtless, and this could have been quickly rectified by you or your friend being grownups and saying "hey, any chance of a plus one because xyz"

However, realistically your friends BM duties will be over after the photos, there's five of them and she's a last minute sub - she won't have any considerable duties

What I will say, like others have said, is that it is not other peoples responsibility to manage your anxiety, to explain things to you or to essentially, baby you, which is what you're asking.

Youre making the mistake a lot of pepple freshly into therapy make, conflating the notion that your feelings are "valid" (a horrendous therapy buzz term but that's another thread) with the notion that they are infallible and always reasonable.

This isn't the same thing.

To believe it is results in a person losing self awareness, and becoming self indulgent and self centred. This is what's happening here.

Your feelings are valid certainly, but they're not reasonable,

your feelings being valid also does not mean they outrank other peoples, again youre conflating the two. This is why it's not uncaring of your friend not to prioritise fully how you feel, think, act on her own wedding day.

You've had some level headed responses here which you've reacted very rudely to. You came here expecting an echo chamber of "validity" - its not what you got (fwiw, echo Chambers are not healthy)

I suggest you pick the below up with your therapist

  1. Why you've reacted this way to this wedding situation
  2. Why you've reacted so defensively to perfectly reasonable criticism

I also suggest you don't go to the wedding.

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

harriethoyle · 27/03/2024 08:55

AnneLovesGilbert · 26/03/2024 20:12

Would you be okay with several wedding events if you were a bridesmaid or your friend wasn’t?

You booked for a week, I don’t see why you’re suddenly against the idea of multiple celebrations. That’s normal for destination weddings, they have everyone in one place for a period of time and want to make the most of it.

Go and do so enthusiastically or don’t. She doesn’t need someone there costing her money who’s resentful or critical.

It sounds like sour grapes as your friend has been promoted and you haven’t. You didn’t have any issues with the plans before you found that out unless I’ve missed something.

Yes I agree with this. Seems to be a lot of flouncing and catastrophising on your part OP. Maybe work through it with your therapist and see if you can refashion your thinking?

crockofshite · 27/03/2024 09:08

MariaVT65 · 27/03/2024 03:35

Sorry then, i’m still not understanding what you want. Your op literally talks about you feel like you’re not good enough and you feel singled out.

What don't you understand about OP not wanting to attend the wedding on her own, when previously the plan was to attend with her friend who will now be a bridesmaid, meaning the friend will be spending wedding time with the bride and not OP? And OP doesn't know anyone else going.

RichTea90 · 27/03/2024 09:27

crockofshite · 27/03/2024 09:08

What don't you understand about OP not wanting to attend the wedding on her own, when previously the plan was to attend with her friend who will now be a bridesmaid, meaning the friend will be spending wedding time with the bride and not OP? And OP doesn't know anyone else going.

Exactly… and it’s in a foreign country!

OP posts:
FiveFollies · 27/03/2024 09:29

I agree with the other posters, and think you’ve been extremely unreasonable. I can’t add much that’s not already been said, but I think your offer to pay for the airbnb is not so much rooted in altruism more as to make your friend feel beholden to you during the time away. I also wonder if part of it is hoping that by staying with your friend it will bring you closer together and rearrange the dynamic of your trio in your favour.

I don’t think anyone has been rude to you at all.

I suspect it will end - or at least cool - your relationships with these two girls if you don't go. Perhaps not for the reasons you think. It is really not down to either of them to manage your needs and wants. I’d go for what it’s worth, you’ll be proud of yourself for doing that in spite of your anxiety and have some lovely memories to boot. From experience of going to destination weddings people are much more open and relaxed as they feel like they're on holiday so you'll find there's always someone to hang out with or someone that wants to do something. I'd far rather go to a destination wedding by myself than a wedding here where I knew no one but the bride.

MariaVT65 · 27/03/2024 09:31

crockofshite · 27/03/2024 09:08

What don't you understand about OP not wanting to attend the wedding on her own, when previously the plan was to attend with her friend who will now be a bridesmaid, meaning the friend will be spending wedding time with the bride and not OP? And OP doesn't know anyone else going.

It might mean she may get dressed by herself on the morning, i don’t get why it means she will be alone for the rest of the day or the entire week?? Bridesmaids are not glued to the bride 24/7.

RichTea90 · 27/03/2024 09:35

FiveFollies · 27/03/2024 09:29

I agree with the other posters, and think you’ve been extremely unreasonable. I can’t add much that’s not already been said, but I think your offer to pay for the airbnb is not so much rooted in altruism more as to make your friend feel beholden to you during the time away. I also wonder if part of it is hoping that by staying with your friend it will bring you closer together and rearrange the dynamic of your trio in your favour.

I don’t think anyone has been rude to you at all.

I suspect it will end - or at least cool - your relationships with these two girls if you don't go. Perhaps not for the reasons you think. It is really not down to either of them to manage your needs and wants. I’d go for what it’s worth, you’ll be proud of yourself for doing that in spite of your anxiety and have some lovely memories to boot. From experience of going to destination weddings people are much more open and relaxed as they feel like they're on holiday so you'll find there's always someone to hang out with or someone that wants to do something. I'd far rather go to a destination wedding by myself than a wedding here where I knew no one but the bride.

You really seem to want to attack my character in your response by the looks of things when you really don’t know me at all so have no right or basis to assume my actions are non-altruistic.

I still think it’s a big ask to expect people to come to your destination wedding, especially young single female guests who know no one, and in a different country as well. As far as I was aware, I was going to be traveling to the wedding with my friend. It looks like I’m going on my own now.

This post is about the fact that I was invited to my friend's wedding under the proviso I was going with a mutual friend. This is now no longer happening, and I wasn’t even informed by the bride. It was a last minute change in the last month. I think I have a right to feel upset. The dynamics have changed. Had I of known this in the beginning, I probably would have politely declined the invitation. It’s now put me in an awkward spot.

OP posts:
TheInfusionist · 27/03/2024 09:50

"I have feelings, and my feelings matter and are important too. I am meant to be a friend, and the very nature of friendships is that we care and respect one another."

I think you should turn this around and think - how can I show care and respect for my friends?

Not by leaving one friend alone in an Airbnb for a week when she'd been expecting to have a fun week with you and doesn't know many of the other guests. Imagine her anxiety of a week alone compared to your couple of hours alone one morning!

And not by not showing up for the bride and being positive and happy to celebrate her wedding.

Reframe your thinking - these are good friends of yours, how can you help them have a good time, and be a positive part of the experience for all of you? Perhaps you could offer to take on a task, or buddy up with someone else who also doesn't know anyone. Ask the bride what you can do to help out. Make your presence positive, not a drain. And enjoy doing it!

crockofshite · 27/03/2024 09:58

RichTea90 · 27/03/2024 09:27

Exactly… and it’s in a foreign country!

And it's a three day shebang

RichTea90 · 27/03/2024 10:03

TheInfusionist · 27/03/2024 09:50

"I have feelings, and my feelings matter and are important too. I am meant to be a friend, and the very nature of friendships is that we care and respect one another."

I think you should turn this around and think - how can I show care and respect for my friends?

Not by leaving one friend alone in an Airbnb for a week when she'd been expecting to have a fun week with you and doesn't know many of the other guests. Imagine her anxiety of a week alone compared to your couple of hours alone one morning!

And not by not showing up for the bride and being positive and happy to celebrate her wedding.

Reframe your thinking - these are good friends of yours, how can you help them have a good time, and be a positive part of the experience for all of you? Perhaps you could offer to take on a task, or buddy up with someone else who also doesn't know anyone. Ask the bride what you can do to help out. Make your presence positive, not a drain. And enjoy doing it!

See, I just disagree…. I personally wouldn’t do this to my friends or expect it from them for the sake of my wedding day. I think it is selfish.

as far as my friend goes, she will be involved with the bridal party - for which there is 4 of them plus the bride. She won’t be on her own! She’ll be well looked after by them! Why is it now my responsibility to suck it up and now look after my friend as well? 😵‍💫

This is just becoming a massive thing… all for a wedding!

OP posts:
RichTea90 · 27/03/2024 10:03

crockofshite · 27/03/2024 09:58

And it's a three day shebang

Exactly

OP posts:
TheInfusionist · 27/03/2024 10:08

Do what? I'm not sure what you think they've done to you personally, or what is selfish?

toomuchfaff · 27/03/2024 10:15

Having recently got married, our girls get ready room had bridesmaid and non bridesmaids there... a lot of guests had hair and make up too so maybe with it being destination she may have a less formal vision of the morning... maybe check, explore the thinking around the morning before making any decisions?

Pinkdelight3 · 27/03/2024 10:17

This post is about the fact that I was invited to my friend's wedding under the proviso I was going with a mutual friend.

You're still going with a mutual friend. Sure she's a bridesmaid now and will get her pix taken and a few other things, but sure you can cope, even if it's a - gasp! - foreign country. You're fearing the worst instead and often these things can be nowhere as bad as that and often a nice step out of your comfort zone that makes you feel more confident. If your friend suddenly dropped out then I'd understand, but she'll still be there and not that much has changed really. I think you're overreacting and also underestimating yourself. See it through.

wecantbefriends · 27/03/2024 10:17

Ivee · 26/03/2024 18:21

Wow, how annoying. I can see why you’re upset.

I’m sure that neither of your friends meant to hurt you. Bridesmaid-friend didn’t have much choice, and bride-friend is totally focused on the wedding and just hasn’t thought about you at all. But, the bride has been surprisingly selfish, it obviously hasn’t crossed her mind to wonder how your holiday would be. Or maybe she’s just an extrovert and assumes you’ll find random guests to hang out with. But I would never send invites to an overseas wedding that weren’t plusone. Because that’s just so selfish!

Anyway, going to an overseas wedding where you don’t know anyone, aren’t allowed a plus-one, and the person you’re airbnb-sharing with is in the bridal party but you aren’t, totally sucks and is not worth the money. So my question to you is: how much do you want to keep these friendships? Because if you cancel there’s a risk they’ll both be very annoyed/offended.

And my second question is: can you cancel the airbnb / flight without it costing you lots of money?!

If it was me I would trust in it being a real friendship - ie I would assume that the bride cares about my feelings at least a little bit - and I’d text her something like this:

”Hi [bride] hope all going well with the wedding planning. Hey so there’s something I need to explain, but it’s a bit awkward. Basically I’m not able to come to the wedding anymore. The plan was for me and [bridesmaid] to get an airbnb together and hang out together, which when I accepted the invite I thought would work well as we both don’t know anyone else going and our invites don’t include our partners. But now she’s become a bridesmaid she’ll be off doing bridal party stuff and that makes me a bit of a spare wheel 😬 and I’d be on my own the whole holiday feeling rubbish while she’s off elsewhere with you. I’m not asking to be a bridesmaid haha, you already have 5 and I totally understand that you guys have become closer what with living nearer etc. But, since she became a bridesmaid I just can’t see a way for me to come to the wedding without it being a rather lonely and miserable experience for me. I think it’s best if I just celebrate 1:1 with you in England sometime instead and don’t come to the Croatia bit. Hope you understand.”

Good GOD what a way to make it all about you 😂

Yeah please don't do this, I got a bit of second hand embarrassment reading that.

mummyh2016 · 27/03/2024 10:22

@RichTea90 she won't be alone for the wedding and the other two gatherings/parties. She'll be on her own the rest of the time. You're finding it hard at the prospect of spending 30 minutes alone at the wedding (which you won't be alone for as you'll have met other guests previously) so your answer is to leave your friend alone for at least 4 days. If you don't see anything wrong with that then that's on you but the majority of people on here won't agree with you.

Coldupnorth87 · 27/03/2024 10:24

This event is too much for you with your current anxiety issues.

Too long, too many variables, not enough support.

buellerbuellerbueller · 27/03/2024 10:29

RichTea90 · 27/03/2024 10:03

Exactly

But it has always been a three day shebang. The only thing that's changed is that you may now have to spend some time on your own on one of those days. Though hopefully not - in my experience, as always being the single attendee, people try and make you feel very welcome.

If you don't want to go anymore, that is of course absolutely fine and your decision. But don't conflate the issues when sending your apologies. If you start saying it's because it's a three day wedding abroad, you're likely to create some ill-feeling.

ShittingPeugeot · 27/03/2024 10:30

With all due respect, no one is here to pander to your anxiety and selfishness.

Either get over it and go, or don't.

The wedding isn't about you, and you making it about you is really an off putting trait to have in a 'friend.'

Yes the dynamics change, that tends to happen in big life events like weddings.

You moan and say you don't feel good enough as you haven't been asked, then go on to say you don't want to be bridesmaid.
Unless the 5th bridesmaid says 'I don't want to be bridesmaid to my close friends wedding because @RichTea90 has anxiety and doesn't feel good enough' you won't be happy.

You sound incredibly difficult, stubborn, and lack any accountability.
There's no point in trying to be 'kind' on this thread so you lash out with unkind replies saying you're being attacked, so there's my POV. Do you often think people are singling you out and attacking you, when in reality they are doing what's best for them? Not everything is about you or an attack on you all the time. If you do feel like this, then you need to work on this.

The world doesn't revolve around you and your anxiety. Yes friends should take other people's feelings into consideration, but not at the expense of the brides wishes on her once in a lifetime day.