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Being called Mrs *-*

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LorlieS · 23/03/2024 00:00

I'm married and a Ms My Last Name - His Last Name (hubby also double-barrelled when we married).
So why do so many people insist on addressing me as a Mrs?! AIBU to be annoyed by this?

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LorlieS · 23/03/2024 09:00

@surreygirl1987 I could not agree with you more; the lack of respect towards teachers these days - by both parents and pupils - is off the scale by some.
My husband tells me (and he's not that old) that at his school the students were expected to stand up every time a teacher entered the room.
Not for one second of course saying I'd expect this, but I don't expect to be told by a 9 year-old "You can't keep me in for five minutes at lunch because my mum says that's against my human rights, even if I have just punched a kid in the face on the playground."
Yes, I do expect to be addressed as Ms D-B. I also refer to all of the parents using their title and not by their first name.
This lack of respect is just of the reasons (but definitely not the only one) I'm leaving education after 20 years and returning to uni to do my Masters from September.

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GneissGuysFinishLast · 23/03/2024 09:00

LittleBearPad · 23/03/2024 08:57

Why on earth do other colleagues call you by your title and surname? That’s far more odd than Mrs / Miss / Ms

Not in direct conversation, when referring to me in front of children/parents/written communication.

For example, when posting a letter to parents instructing them to hand forms back to me, or when posting something a class I teach achieved on social media, or when creating signs for my classroom.

Lamelie · 23/03/2024 09:00

LittleBearPad · 23/03/2024 08:54

Teachers are really the last redoubt of titles and surnames. Probably time for them to move on too.

Yes, doh scrolled up and saw in a school Blush
I was mortified when the head at school introduced himself as Mr Chalk and my snobby DM smirked. TBF his first name was Peregrine so I can see why he avoided it.
Does anyone know what happens in schools in Sweden? They’re very anti honorifics.

Alasia24 · 23/03/2024 09:01

Until I read this thread, I genuinely thought Ms was to be used for women who are divorced.

So I googled it.

I've been confused as to why my children's teachers sometimes refer me to 'Ms' when I'm single...you learn something new every day!

LorlieS · 23/03/2024 09:02

@FlyingDuck5 I don't think less of married women, being one myself.

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DinnaeFashYersel · 23/03/2024 09:02

LorlieS · 23/03/2024 00:07

@HeddaGarbled It's not my title, nor one I wish to be referred to by.

Then you need to tell people.

LittleBearPad · 23/03/2024 09:02

LorlieS · 23/03/2024 09:02

@FlyingDuck5 I don't think less of married women, being one myself.

Just the ones who choose to use Mrs…

GneissGuysFinishLast · 23/03/2024 09:02

iLovee · 23/03/2024 08:59

Sometimes its eitherinfront of the children e.g "Good Morning Mrs X, please can I borrow Johnny?" Or in passing in the corridor.

Or its just a friendly bit of banter, this one is harder to explain but makes sense if you work in schools I think.

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Yeah, I frequently forget my colleagues actual first names because we use their last names far more. Huge school, so many colleagues I don’t know well. Even our email signatures don’t have our first names.

LorlieS · 23/03/2024 09:03

@LittleBearPad How do you refer to your doctor?

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LittleBearPad · 23/03/2024 09:03

LorlieS · 23/03/2024 09:00

@surreygirl1987 I could not agree with you more; the lack of respect towards teachers these days - by both parents and pupils - is off the scale by some.
My husband tells me (and he's not that old) that at his school the students were expected to stand up every time a teacher entered the room.
Not for one second of course saying I'd expect this, but I don't expect to be told by a 9 year-old "You can't keep me in for five minutes at lunch because my mum says that's against my human rights, even if I have just punched a kid in the face on the playground."
Yes, I do expect to be addressed as Ms D-B. I also refer to all of the parents using their title and not by their first name.
This lack of respect is just of the reasons (but definitely not the only one) I'm leaving education after 20 years and returning to uni to do my Masters from September.

Crack through that, do a doctorate and you’ll be sorted.

usernother · 23/03/2024 09:04

LorlieS · 23/03/2024 09:03

@LittleBearPad How do you refer to your doctor?

I know you weren't asking me but I don't refer to my doctor as anything. I've no need to.

GneissGuysFinishLast · 23/03/2024 09:05

LittleBearPad · 23/03/2024 09:03

Crack through that, do a doctorate and you’ll be sorted.

Not working in education. Kids struggle to grasp how you can be a doctor AND a teacher.

LorlieS · 23/03/2024 09:05

@LittleBearPad Where did I say that? If other women want to call themselves Mrs that's up to.them, but I personally won't comply with misogyny.

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HeadsShouldersTitsandArse · 23/03/2024 09:05

I don’t understand why people get so heated and annoyed over such meaningless things.

You’ve said it’s mostly people assuming. Traditional, once married you go by Mr & Mrs.
even in the modern day, the majority go by Mrs once married.

So what if someone accidentally assumes your title? Correct them and move on. There is literally no need to be offended

LittleBearPad · 23/03/2024 09:05

LorlieS · 23/03/2024 09:03

@LittleBearPad How do you refer to your doctor?

I don’t know, I barely see them, generally don’t know their name and on the basis I’d generally have a five minute appointment I crack on without the pleasantries. I call my dentist their first name if that helps you.

Clearly you feel titles engender respect, it’s probably because you work in a school. Meanwhile the rest of the world moves on.

LittleBearPad · 23/03/2024 09:06

LorlieS · 23/03/2024 09:05

@LittleBearPad Where did I say that? If other women want to call themselves Mrs that's up to.them, but I personally won't comply with misogyny.

I must tell my husband I’m complying with misogyny. He needs a laugh.

LorlieS · 23/03/2024 09:07

@GneissGuysFinishLast Are you actually a teacher, a doctor, and a WOMAN?!!! Is thst even possible(?!!!) 😀

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LorlieS · 23/03/2024 09:07

@LittleBearPad In reality you are.

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Rosesanddaisies1 · 23/03/2024 09:09

YABU. Pick your battles in this life, otherwise you’ll end up bitter and miserable

SoupDragon · 23/03/2024 09:10

LorlieS · 23/03/2024 09:05

@LittleBearPad Where did I say that? If other women want to call themselves Mrs that's up to.them, but I personally won't comply with misogyny.

I'd rather be someone who is wrongly thought of as "complying with misogyny" than someone who is rude and sneery towards others.

LorlieS · 23/03/2024 09:12

@Rosesanddaisies1 I am.
Guess I will just keep educating the kids on this so they're more clued up than a lot of adults appear to be; loads of them have no idea there is no automatic title or name change upon marriage.

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BobbyBiscuits · 23/03/2024 09:12

I've always been Ms as I object to the notion that someone could tell if you were single or not by your name. Obviously invented by men so they knew what level of sexual harassment or discrimination they can attempt to subject us to.
That's the way I feel anyway. Some man called up my office and asked for a female staff member who he had never spoken to before. He then asked me if she was married?! Presuming to address her as Miss or Mrs. But the question sounded so weird and intrusive. I told him I had absolutely no idea. I knew she wasn't but it just does my head in for some reason.
My mum on the other hand is very proud to be Mrs dad's surname.

LorlieS · 23/03/2024 09:13

@SoupDragon Explain how I'm "rude and sneery". Is it because I don't agree with you?

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GneissGuysFinishLast · 23/03/2024 09:15

LorlieS · 23/03/2024 09:07

@GneissGuysFinishLast Are you actually a teacher, a doctor, and a WOMAN?!!! Is thst even possible(?!!!) 😀

No, can’t stand the sight of blood 😉

In all seriousness my friend is all three and still gets called Miss.

Enko · 23/03/2024 09:16

Personally and I have had friends tell me similar I never know how people want Ms or Mx pronounced so Mrs can seem safer until they correct it said how they wish it done.

I have no issue with how others wish to be called and will use what they want. I do find however I get told I'm wrong for wanting to be called Mrs.

I know I'm not that is my preference.

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